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I thought the stock ECU will compensate and inject more fuel from the injector due to extra air?
Yes, a stock ECU will calculate the amount of air going in as in mass air sensor, MAP sensor and so on, but the injector also have it's limitation, that is why got bigger cc injectors for mod....
 

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4G15 only lahhh.

Dude, u used the 'if you know what I mean' so wrongly.

Stock vs stock injector should be okay. Unless BOT then cannot dy. Pushing more than what the stock injectors can go I guess.
Sorry that I used it wrongly. I should just say passed away.

You mean if BOT, then stock injectors can't handle it? Sure because of the extra compressed air from the turbine is entering.

Yes, a stock ECU will calculate the amount of air going in as in mass air sensor, MAP sensor and so on, but the injector also have it's limitation, that is why got bigger cc injectors for mod....
So, changing into high flow air filter won't affect FC at all or perhaps just little bit?
 

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Sorry that I used it wrongly. I should just say passed away.





You mean if BOT, then stock injectors can't handle it? Sure because of the extra compressed air from the turbine is entering.











So, changing into high flow air filter won't affect FC at all or perhaps just little bit?





No, what I meant is, the injectors will need to pump more fuel, but it doesn't have the capabilities to do so.

U turbo dy sure need more fuel ma, if not lean dy lo. Hence, 470cc or what 900cc injectors, just for example.








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No, what I meant is, the injectors will need to pump more fuel, but it doesn't have the capabilities to do so.

U turbo dy sure need more fuel ma, if not lean dy lo. Hence, 470cc or what 900cc injectors, just for example.








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That's what I am saying earlier. I say injectors can't handle it because of the extra compressed air. Meaning like more air entering the engine but not enough fuel from the injector because the stock injector is at its limit.
 

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Yup, fuel + air = power. The more fuel + air as in displacement or forced induction = more power.
High air flow, how to get more fuel? unless you cheat the ECU, then restricted as injector too small, then change to bigger injector and so on and on and on = mod and mod and mod.....hahahahaha:biggrin:
So means I can use Celica Injectors :rofl: Need to get my KNN oil ASAP after washing.

Civic EG9 or EK4 also can be considered. Although ori EG9 and EK4 is rare, there are still converted ones fitted with B16A,B16B,B18C or B18C Type R.

You need to give me some time first. When the time comes, I'll seek advice from you for sure. :biggrin:

4G got a lot of series. 4G1 series, 4G9 series, 4G6 series. :biggrin:

Mine bought for 40k plus. Around 15 years ago. Bought by my dad but he's not around anymore, if you know what I mean.

I thought the stock ECU will compensate and inject more fuel from the injector due to extra air?
Sorry that I used it wrongly. I should just say passed away.

You mean if BOT, then stock injectors can't handle it? Sure because of the extra compressed air from the turbine is entering.

So, changing into high flow air filter won't affect FC at all or perhaps just little bit?
No worries bro, don't bother. You didn't use it wrongly. Sorry to hear about that. Didnt meant to bring that up again.

K&N mine is drop in, FC wise you won't really notice at all. Open Pod I'm not sure.
 

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No worries bro, don't bother. You didn't use it wrongly. Sorry to hear about that. Didnt meant to bring that up again.

K&N mine is drop in, FC wise you won't really notice at all. Open Pod I'm not sure.
Nevermind bout that, I din't mention that you brought that up. Besides, its has already happened for years already. Regrettable but life is always full of challenges and hardship.

So, drop in won't affect FC much... I think I can consider getting one for my car. Open pod I heard that power will gain at top end but lose at low end.
 

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Nevermind bout that, I din't mention that you brought that up. Besides, its has already happened for years already. Regrettable but life is always full of challenges and hardship.

So, drop in won't affect FC much... I think I can consider getting one for my car. Open pod I heard that power will gain at top end but lose at low end.
Open pod need to heat shield or CAI, if not suck hot air only....
 

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Nevermind bout that, I din't mention that you brought that up. Besides, its has already happened for years already. Regrettable but life is always full of challenges and hardship.





So, drop in won't affect FC much... I think I can consider getting one for my car. Open pod I heard that power will gain at top end but lose at low end.





Kudos to mum though. Shes tough.

Sole bread winner/?





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Open pod need to heat shield or CAI, if not suck hot air only....
Last time my friend put open pod on Kancil. Looks very weird. But I remember that he is saying that he's using Kelisa 1.0's block and pistons.




Kudos to mum though. Shes tough.

Sole bread winner/?





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Yeah, sole bread winner. Not really earning a big salary though. Still relies on old savings if more money is needed.
 

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Last time my friend put open pod on Kancil. Looks very weird. But I remember that he is saying that he's using Kelisa 1.0's block and pistons.






Yeah, sole bread winner. Not really earning a big salary though. Still relies on old savings if more money is needed.
Directly in the hot air path of the radiator fan so more.....:banghead:
 

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Directly in the hot air path of the radiator fan so more.....:banghead:
This setup is long gone already. Friend said that his bro took this car and chased a FD3S RX-7. After the chasing when reach home, engine started to leak oil and there goes the Kelisa pistons. After that, swap back to original Kancil 660 block, pistons and filter.

 

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That's what I am saying earlier. I say injectors can't handle it because of the extra compressed air. Meaning like more air entering the engine but not enough fuel from the injector because the stock injector is at its limit.
Running injectors at full cycle will kill the injectors really quickly. No matter how much air you throw in the injectors will be able to handle it. If not you'll just run a lean engine when you're on WOT. Meaning most of the time loss of power and hotter engine.

So, drop in won't affect FC much... I think I can consider getting one for my car. Open pod I heard that power will gain at top end but lose at low end.
You want to know how an open pod will feel like? Take out your filter and run filterless. That's how an open pod feels like. I ran filterless for about a month. Mid to top end made a helluva lot of induction noise, even louder than exhaust. Shiok gila. But engine oil got dirty really fast. :biggrin:

I hate open pod. But having said that it's all about tuning the runner length. Drex has his open pod in his bumper and the intake hose goes from bumper to manifold. No loss of low end at all. I've tried that too, problem is my car is a bit too low, water suction I kena before and I have a hole in my bumper directing air to the u-snorkel entrance area where my pod was. So it got dirty very quickly and I ran the risk of water intake.

Anyway, there's lots you can do with filters. Once I get a hold of a proper metal cutter I'm going to put my open pod in my standard box. Need to fabricate a proper box, already got the sheet metal. :biggrin:
 
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This setup is long gone already. Friend said that his bro took this car and chased a FD3S RX-7. After the chasing when reach home, engine started to leak oil and there goes the Kelisa pistons. After that, swap back to original Kancil 660 block, pistons and filter.
That first pic, engine oil seems to be all over also.....:biggrin:

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I hate open pod. But having said that it's all about tuning the runner length. Drex has his open pod in his bumper and the intake hose goes from bumper to manifold. No loss of low end at all. I've tried that too, problem is my car is a bit too low, water suction I kena before and I have a hole in my bumper directing air to the u-snorkel entrance area where my pod was. So it got dirty very quickly and I ran the risk of water intake.

Anyway, there's lots you can do with filters. Once I get a hold of a proper metal cutter I'm going to put my open pod in my standard box. Need to fabricate a proper box, already got the sheet metal. :biggrin:
Lead it up to your windscreen like 4 X 4.....hahahahahhaa:biggrin:
 

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Running injectors at full cycle will kill the injectors really quickly. No matter how much air you throw in the injectors will be able to handle it. If not you'll just run a lean engine when you're on WOT. Meaning most of the time loss of power and hotter engine.



You want to know how an open pod will feel like? Take out your filter and run filterless. That's how an open pod feels like. I ran filterless for about a month. Mid to top end made a helluva lot of induction noise, even louder than exhaust. Shiok gila. But engine oil got dirty really fast. :biggrin:

I hate open pod. But having said that it's all about tuning the runner length. Drex has his open pod in his bumper and the intake hose goes from bumper to manifold. No loss of low end at all. I've tried that too, problem is my car is a bit too low, water suction I kena before and I have a hole in my bumper directing air to the u-snorkel entrance area where my pod was. So it got dirty very quickly and I ran the risk of water intake.

Anyway, there's lots you can do with filters. Once I get a hold of a proper metal cutter I'm going to put my open pod in my standard box. Need to fabricate a proper box, already got the sheet metal. :biggrin:
Whats WOT?


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Running injectors at full cycle will kill the injectors really quickly. No matter how much air you throw in the injectors will be able to handle it. If not you'll just run a lean engine when you're on WOT. Meaning most of the time loss of power and hotter engine.



You want to know how an open pod will feel like? Take out your filter and run filterless. That's how an open pod feels like. I ran filterless for about a month. Mid to top end made a helluva lot of induction noise, even louder than exhaust. Shiok gila. But engine oil got dirty really fast. :biggrin:

I hate open pod. But having said that it's all about tuning the runner length. Drex has his open pod in his bumper and the intake hose goes from bumper to manifold. No loss of low end at all. I've tried that too, problem is my car is a bit too low, water suction I kena before and I have a hole in my bumper directing air to the u-snorkel entrance area where my pod was. So it got dirty very quickly and I ran the risk of water intake.

Anyway, there's lots you can do with filters. Once I get a hold of a proper metal cutter I'm going to put my open pod in my standard box. Need to fabricate a proper box, already got the sheet metal. :biggrin:
If I do so, I might risk killing my engine. I'm surprised that you manage to run it for one month. The air in our country is so dusty plus you are living in a city area. I thought without a filter, all sorts of things can enter the engine which can kill the engine fast. BTW, how much hp gain do you think this kind of filterless setup can gain?

That first pic, engine oil seems to be all over also.....:biggrin:

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Lead it up to your windscreen like 4 X 4.....hahahahahhaa:biggrin:
Haha, yeah, looks like it. Whole engine is soaked in oil. This was taken 2 years ago. During that time, I still don't have much clue about engine yet. Camshaft dont know, crankshaft don't know, valve don't know, intake and exhaust manifold also don't know.
 

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If I do so, I might risk killing my engine. I'm surprised that you manage to run it for one month. The air in our country is so dusty plus you are living in a city area. I thought without a filter, all sorts of things can enter the engine which can kill the engine fast. BTW, how much hp gain do you think this kind of filterless setup can gain?



Haha, yeah, looks like it. Whole engine is soaked in oil. This was taken 2 years ago. During that time, I still don't have much clue about engine yet. Camshaft dont know, crankshaft don't know, valve don't know, intake and exhaust manifold also don't know.
U might risk it, but if only a big stone went in it hahahaha.
Small tiny stones and dusts should be alright. In the combustion chamber exploded dy lol
 

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Come up under the engine bounce around in the bay or some one like Izso using RSR on the road, then stones flip up to their CAI or something. :laugh:
That's nasty if something like that went in. If broken plastic bags or dry leaves entering the engine? No problem as well?
 

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Dear TS, for around that price of 40-50k you could consider also consider a used J spec manual Vios. They're relatively new, decent power, decent handling (with a few strut bars), good comfort around town, easy to maintain, easy to get a loan, easy to mod, and most importantly low maintenance cost (Toyota is well known for its reliability). Just my 2 cents :driver:
 

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That's nasty if something like that went in. If broken plastic bags or dry leaves entering the engine? No problem as well?
Plastic burnnn. So if u are smart u will not drive thru a bag on the road, it will stick up to ur extractor or somesort and burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, faiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 

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Come up under the engine bounce around in the bay or some one like Izso using RSR on the road, then stones flip up to their CAI or something. :laugh:
Imagination gone wild. BIG stone how to enter the small inlet piping......hahahahaha:biggrin:

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Plastic burnnn. So if u are smart u will not drive thru a bag on the road, it will stick up to ur extractor or somesort and burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, faiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Suck up to your extractor? Probably all gooey in your combustion camber, jam up your valve and plug...I don't know actually what will happen unless you willing to do a test.....hahahhahaha:biggrin:
 

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Imagination gone wild. BIG stone how to enter the small inlet piping......hahahahaha:biggrin:

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Suck up to your extractor? Probably all gooey in your combustion camber, jam up your valve and plug...I don't know actually what will happen unless you willing to do a test.....hahahhahaha:biggrin:
Nono, stuck on the exterior of extractorrr. Not inside. Melted and gooey lo.
Like under SF's BLM ahha.
 

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Running injectors at full cycle will kill the injectors really quickly. No matter how much air you throw in the injectors will be able to handle it. If not you'll just run a lean engine when you're on WOT. Meaning most of the time loss of power and hotter engine.



You want to know how an open pod will feel like? Take out your filter and run filterless. That's how an open pod feels like. I ran filterless for about a month. Mid to top end made a helluva lot of induction noise, even louder than exhaust. Shiok gila. But engine oil got dirty really fast. :biggrin:

I hate open pod. But having said that it's all about tuning the runner length. Drex has his open pod in his bumper and the intake hose goes from bumper to manifold. No loss of low end at all. I've tried that too, problem is my car is a bit too low, water suction I kena before and I have a hole in my bumper directing air to the u-snorkel entrance area where my pod was. So it got dirty very quickly and I ran the risk of water intake.

Anyway, there's lots you can do with filters. Once I get a hold of a proper metal cutter I'm going to put my open pod in my standard box. Need to fabricate a proper box, already got the sheet metal. :biggrin:
Where u get the metal sheet!!! i want one too.. thought of redesigning few pipes for intakes and oil cooler to redirect the air from the front. Please please please tell me...