BMW 320i e46 or altezza??

[hgbee]

hi, im 17 years old this year and im buying a car next year ( parents pays for the deposit and id pay for the rest)

What's your opinion of buying a 320i e46 vs buying an altezza?
With the altezza, i'd be able to mod the car easier. but my dad would be much happier to buy the 320i for me because it's a bmw and it's luxury car. mainstream media. i know right.

first post on this forum by the way. sorry if i post it on the wrong board :)
if you have any suggestions on a car that's around 40-50k , 4 door ,do tell :)
(still trying to learn more about automotives. getting my first car will begin my automotive journey :D)

 

[norick]

Do u know what is under steer, over steer? ABS kick-in?
Hv u tried or felt car skidding? or the force of bang something?
Thats all the situation will face by new driver on board.

If ur family can afford that u start learning with ur BMW or Altezza..
then why not ? Any car will do... (perhaps the BMW will protect u better in any situation..)

Last.. the price of the used car is not equal to the price of repair / parts..
more info or correction welcome...

 

[RENESIS VIII]

E46's maintenance cost will be more expensive than Altezza...

 

[hgbee]

Do u know what is under steer, over steer? ABS kick-in?
Hv u tried or felt car skidding? or the force of bang something?
Thats all the situation will face by new driver on board.

If ur family can afford that u start learning with ur BMW or Altezza..
then why not ? Any car will do... (perhaps the BMW will protect u better in any situation..)

Last.. the price of the used car is not equal to the price of repair / parts..
more info or correction welcome...

Under & over steer, a.b.s i know them. Ive never felt a car skidding tho haha. My dad's going to pay for the deposit and ill be working part time during college to pay forthe rest of the car. Is the maintenance cost of the bmw very expensive?


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E46's maintenance cost will be more expensive than Altezza...

Ahh i seee :) quite a few people told me that before. thanks for the info :)


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[Hadi17]

i suggest u to consider the 7th generation Toyota Celica .. its much more shorter and lighter and a pretty good car for reliability, sporty look (attract chicks) fuel consumption and maintenance ..

 

[hgbee]

I forgot to add in it needs to be a four door as ill be having passengers as well :) thanks! :)


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[Hadi17]

I forgot to add in it needs to be a four door as ill be having passengers as well :) thanks! :)


Then i guess altezza would be good .. btw u preffer manual or auto tranny ?

 

[hgbee]

I forgot to add in it needs to be a four door as ill be having passengers as well :) thanks! :)


Then i guess altezza would be good .. btw u preffer manual or auto tranny ?

Manual of course :)


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[stupidcar]

Altezza!!!!!!! Manual for the win!


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[ken yeang]

BMW 320i, classy and fits every situation. Conti refinement of hard to match. Afterall, it is the ultimate driving machine.
I am not a BMW salesman nor against Toyota. BMW parts are still available in new, prices can be OK, if you know the places to source.

Aftermarket parts are easy to get, but premium. Try do a search on Ebay and you'll know it is true.

Both car are reliable, everyday ride, and I don't think they are hard to maintain.

 

[AE111_SEG]

Altezza for sure :proud: ha ha ha ...

BMW only the powerful model are fun to drive. i.e 325i or 328i which are automatic btw.
320i lacks power....

Altezza is more expensive to buy but cheap to maintain. If you are into modifying without killing your pocket then this is the car for u.

BMW cheap to buy but expensive to repair and maintain.

Your choice.... Dont listen to me go do some research in http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/index.php?/forum/85-e46/ forum

 

[wazza]

from someone who HAD a bmw engine, now riding with JDM engine.

cooling system for bmw (radiators, hoses, fan, wiring) rm 4500 k. Receipts to prove.
cooling system for 2JZ (radiator,hoses, fan , wiring ) rm 2200 ish. receipts to prove.

everything in a bmw is a ll about ELECTRONIC THIS AND THAT. Harsh weather,potholes, humidity - these factors will kill em all.
JDM items are built for ASIAN weather. You'll not be seeing sensors fail as often.

e46 owner, me.

painful as hell, when you see your mntnnce bill.
not so painful when you see your JDM engine MODDING bill.

or do yourself a favour and get an EVO or Impreza.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

from someone who HAD a bmw engine, now riding with JDM engine.

cooling system for bmw (radiators, hoses, fan, wiring) rm 4500 k. Receipts to prove.
cooling system for 2JZ (radiator,hoses, fan , wiring ) rm 2200 ish. receipts to prove.

everything in a bmw is a ll about ELECTRONIC THIS AND THAT. Harsh weather,potholes, humidity - these factors will kill em all.
JDM items are built for ASIAN weather. You'll not be seeing sensors fail as often.

e46 owner, me.

painful as hell, when you see your mntnnce bill.
not so painful when you see your JDM engine MODDING bill.

or do yourself a favour and get an EVO or Impreza.

At the price of E46 or Altezza, can get Impreza WRX STI GC8 already. For ori evo, maybe not but converted evo from Lancer CK then can.... But at the end, maintenance and fuel consumption for evo and impreza will be expensive.

 

[6UE5t]

For one who's getting a first car, get one that's the most reliable while being the simplest and cheapest to maintain if anything brakes, and BMW is NOT known for those. Also I agree with one of the above posting that the 320i E46 is under powered, so not fun to drive. Thus go with the Altezza 6 speed.

 

[ken yeang]

since many had highlighted cost of maintenance, then instead of worry of repairing this and that, might as well as buy a new car with the same budget. Peace of mind for sure, and suits nicely for those who are new to driving (17 years old right?)

What is most important = Reliable car + Learn driving, gain experience.....then upgrade to something else.

 

[CR-Z]

(perhaps the BMW will protect u better in any situation..)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPTeDVAyYR4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVkygMSsQA

i dont see any advantage frm bmw compare with well built altezza..lol



http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fo089pFMXc
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfNzkOrk2s

im little biased toward altezza btw....jdm ftw

 

[6UE5t]

since many had highlighted cost of maintenance, then instead of worry of repairing this and that, might as well as buy a new car with the same budget. Peace of mind for sure, and suits nicely for those who are new to driving (17 years old right?)

What is most important = Reliable car + Learn driving, gain experience.....then upgrade to something else.

Yes, quite agree also with this. Maybe does not have to be brand new car but something not that old, maybe <3yrs old, so the risk is much less.

 

[stupidcar]

Yes, quite agree also with this. Maybe does not have to be brand new car but something not that old, maybe <3yrs old, so the risk is much less.

I think is hard to find a well maintained turbo ride?

Renesis mentioned that GC8 might be too old.



Altezza is super easy to maintain. Only one more thing is remember to change LSD oil.



It might be lots of problem for an old performance car. Thus first car and DD shouldn't be like that I think.








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[hgbee]

@kenyeang, thanks for the info :)
@wazza, first of all, you have a bmw with 2j? Damn cool. Have pics? How much is the average maintainence cost for the e46? The problem with the Evo for me is they can only use ron97 and it's expensive as he'll haha. But I always preferred jam over conti haha.

@kenyeang , agree a little bit on the repair part. Do u have any recommendations for a 4 door car with a price tag of around 40-50k?
@crz thx for the info :)


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Can anyone recommend me a car (new or used) 4 door, around rm 40k to 50k?


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[ken yeang]

bro hgbee, for that budget, a brand new Myvi is a good choice. Absolutely hassle free, excellent FC. Reasonable comfortable, with interior space bigger than E46 BMW or Altezza. With some extra cash left, you could do up the car nicely.

 

[stupidcar]

bro hgbee, for that budget, a brand new Myvi is a good choice. Absolutely hassle free, excellent FC. Reasonable comfortable, with interior space bigger than E46 BMW or Altezza. With some extra cash left, you could do up the car nicely.

U joking? :o
I didn't know Tezza and E46 interior are so small!
But then Myvi probably can't satisfy him. And also handling wise I'm very doubtful.

 

[hgbee]

U joking? :o
I didn't know Tezza and E46 interior are so small!
But then Myvi probably can't satisfy him. And also handling wise I'm very doubtful.

Agree with @stupidcar . Id probably get a 2nd hand car than get a new myvi. And i isnt the e46's interior quite spacious?


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[RENESIS VIII]

I think is hard to find a well maintained turbo ride?

Renesis mentioned that GC8 might be too old.



Altezza is super easy to maintain. Only one more thing is remember to change LSD oil.



It might be lots of problem for an old performance car. Thus first car and DD shouldn't be like that I think.








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Production year for Altezza : 1998-2005
Production year for GC8 : 1992-2000

Generally, GC8 is older unless you compare a 1998 Altezza with a year 2000 GC8. Spare parts for GC8 won't be easy to find as well considering that there not that many Subaru around our country. But if a person had the money and time to restore a GC8, it can be fun. Lightweight, 4WD, turbocharged, boxer sound.....

@kenyeang, thanks for the info :)
@wazza, first of all, you have a bmw with 2j? Damn cool. Have pics? How much is the average maintainence cost for the e46? The problem with the Evo for me is they can only use ron97 and it's expensive as he'll haha. But I always preferred jam over conti haha.

@kenyeang , agree a little bit on the repair part. Do u have any recommendations for a 4 door car with a price tag of around 40-50k?
@crz thx for the info :)


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Can anyone recommend me a car (new or used) 4 door, around rm 40k to 50k?


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Correct me if I am wrong but 4G63T engine found in Evo are able to use RON95. They are not high compression engines like Honda's K20A.

4 door car around 40k to 50k, I think maybe you can consider old Honda Civic. EG or EK. Those what generally people call as converted 4 door EG9 or 4 door EK4. With B series VTEC engines, they can be fast. Even better if you can find those with K20A engine but they only run on RON97. Here's an example...

Honda ek ej K20A type R - Cars for sale Pahang - Mudah.my

U joking? :o
I didn't know Tezza and E46 interior are so small!
But then Myvi probably can't satisfy him. And also handling wise I'm very doubtful.

Torsion beam setup on rear...

Agree with @stupidcar . Id probably get a 2nd hand car than get a new myvi. And i isnt the e46's interior quite spacious?


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Advantages for Myvi = Good FC, reliable, cheap maintenance, higher seating position with higher ride height (compared with low cars during the 90s like Wira, Civic).

Suitable car for many people especially new drivers. But not really a fun car to drive if handling is concerned.

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

40-50k u can get 325i.. forget about 320i... if u opt for 320i, might as well go for Altezza. Btw, don't think Altezza's cheap to maintain or mod...

These are 2 very good cars. I'm surprised it came from a 17 year old boy like you. Kudos. But u must get a good mech to check out the rides u've shortlisted

 

[stupidcar]

40-50k u can get 325i.. forget about 320i... if u opt for 320i, might as well go for Altezza. Btw, don't think Altezza's cheap to maintain or mod...

These are 2 very good cars. I'm surprised it came from a 17 year old boy like you. Kudos. But u must get a good mech to check out the rides u've shortlisted

Then 2.5L dy wor. RM879.

 

[hgbee]

40-50k u can get 325i.. forget about 320i... if u opt for 320i, might as well go for Altezza. Btw, don't think Altezza's cheap to maintain or mod...

These are 2 very good cars. I'm surprised it came from a 17 year old boy like you. Kudos. But u must get a good mech to check out the rides u've shortlisted

Thanks for the info Bryan :)

So if i were to compare the altezza to the 325i, the altezza would be more expensive to maintain and mod?

Haha i will definitely get a mechanic and check them out. :)


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[AE111_SEG]

Bro...before you consider Altezza pls refer to my FAQ. I have written extensively on the topic...

//www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/the-altezza-is200-is300-forum/90862-altezza-faq-30.html

 

[hgbee]

Bro...before you consider Altezza pls refer to my FAQ. I have written extensively on the topic...

//www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/the-altezza-is200-is300-forum/90862-altezza-faq-30.html

Thanks. I will read everything on it.


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Do you guys think both the cars will have lost a lot of power due to it's age? If the owners took care of it very carefully then it would be no problem right?


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[stupidcar]

Bro...before you consider Altezza pls refer to my FAQ. I have written extensively on the topic...

//www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/the-altezza-is200-is300-forum/90862-altezza-faq-30.html

Bro, Tezza forum only left you kah?

 

[iejoi]

what about Mazda Rx8? ermm anyone?
* it will take sometime for me to digest all d info from the RE section hehehee...