U joking? :o
I didn't know Tezza and E46 interior are so small!
But then Myvi probably can't satisfy him. And also handling wise I'm very doubtful.
BMW 320i e46 or altezza??
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U joking? :o
I didn't know Tezza and E46 interior are so small!
But then Myvi probably can't satisfy him. And also handling wise I'm very doubtful.
Agree with @stupidcar . Id probably get a 2nd hand car than get a new myvi. And i isnt the e46's interior quite spacious?
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Production year for Altezza : 1998-2005
Production year for GC8 : 1992-2000
Generally, GC8 is older unless you compare a 1998 Altezza with a year 2000 GC8. Spare parts for GC8 won't be easy to find as well considering that there not that many Subaru around our country. But if a person had the money and time to restore a GC8, it can be fun. Lightweight, 4WD, turbocharged, boxer sound.....
Correct me if I am wrong but 4G63T engine found in Evo are able to use RON95. They are not high compression engines like Honda's K20A.
4 door car around 40k to 50k, I think maybe you can consider old Honda Civic. EG or EK. Those what generally people call as converted 4 door EG9 or 4 door EK4. With B series VTEC engines, they can be fast. Even better if you can find those with K20A engine but they only run on RON97. Here's an example...
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+ek+ej+K20A+type+R-25432028.htm
Torsion beam setup on rear...
Advantages for Myvi = Good FC, reliable, cheap maintenance, higher seating position with higher ride height (compared with low cars during the 90s like Wira, Civic).
Suitable car for many people especially new drivers. But not really a fun car to drive if handling is concerned.
40-50k u can get 325i.. forget about 320i... if u opt for 320i, might as well go for Altezza. Btw, don't think Altezza's cheap to maintain or mod...
These are 2 very good cars. I'm surprised it came from a 17 year old boy like you. Kudos. But u must get a good mech to check out the rides u've shortlisted
These are 2 very good cars. I'm surprised it came from a 17 year old boy like you. Kudos. But u must get a good mech to check out the rides u've shortlisted
Thanks for the info Bryan :)
So if i were to compare the altezza to the 325i, the altezza would be more expensive to maintain and mod?
Haha i will definitely get a mechanic and check them out. :)
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Bro...before you consider Altezza pls refer to my FAQ. I have written extensively on the topic...
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/the-altezza-is200-is300-forum/90862-altezza-faq-30.html
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/the-altezza-is200-is300-forum/90862-altezza-faq-30.html
Thanks. I will read everything on it.
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Do you guys think both the cars will have lost a lot of power due to it's age? If the owners took care of it very carefully then it would be no problem right?
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Bro, Tezza forum only left you kah?
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what about Mazda Rx8? ermm anyone?
* it will take sometime for me to digest all d info from the RE section hehehee...
* it will take sometime for me to digest all d info from the RE section hehehee...
Cheap to buy but the Apex seal is not a legend, its da truth!
Only an enthusiast that owns other cars will buy.
RX-8 is already discussed many times over here. Rotary engines are thirsty and requires rebuilding after a certain interval of mileage. Around 40k kilometers for RX-8 if I am not mistaken.
No lah... bro.... Most of us now on Altezza Club facebook page which is more active....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/74645600649/
u can get what you need there..... We update events, sell parts and general support...
Anybody can join....you dont need to own Altezza.
I do come here once in a while to update the FAQ....
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Join dy lo bro. I'm the one who posted the various Tezza kits. :D
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Depends how u drive it. Saw some rarely drive, 3 months, kong jor.
Make sure to use the premix and eo for rotary.
I got sell.
I'm shocked! You didn't wet blanket his choice of cars?
Dude, since no one else is going to be upfront, let me be brutally honest with you. Both of these cars are out of your league for now since you'll be working part time only. Let's talk realistically, at best you get RM20 per hour (at best!) and you work 20 hours a week (at best again). That's RM1600 a month at best without any deductions (EPF, Socso, food, etc).
A 40k car (2nd hand) will have about 3.3% interest rates, and assuming it'll be a 5 year loan, with your dad paying 10k downpayment (awesome dad btw), that means your loan will be 30k.
So calculations :
Interest for 5 years = (3.3% * 30,000) x 5 = RM4950
Car loan = RM4950 + RM30,000 = RM34950
Monthly instalment = RM582.50
That leaves you with RM1600 - RM582.50 = RM1017.50
So say your average travel distance per day is 50km, times 5 days is 250km per week. These cars aren't exactly fuel friendly cars but I'll give them benefit of the doubt and give you 10km/L and I'll just estimate they have 40L tanks. That's about RM74 a week (you won't leave it until empty to refill right?) meaning RM290 on average for fuel per week.
Meaning you'll be left with RM1017.50 - RM290 = RM727.50
If you take away food (average RM10 a day for lunch, skip BF) RM200 a week that leaves you with RM500 odd loose change.
That's barely enough to replace the battery for the beemer, much less the parts you'll need to replace with the age of those cars. Of course there's the exception where you buy a car from a brother who completely overhauled the car and fixed all outstanding things before selling to you. If yes - then great... but these are old cars. There'll always bound to be something he forgot to fix.
I'm not familiar with the BMW nor the Tezza, but the S60 Volvo I do know. There's these joints in the front suspension that make a helluva racket after some mileage (about 20k km odd) and need changing. Those joints are RM180 a piece without install. So that's RM360 gone leaving you with barely enough money to buy a girl a meal. I mean come on, you buy a car like this for two reasons :
1. They are awesome cars and you just wanna own a piece of awesomeness
2. You got a hot chick you wanna impress
And with the amount money left behind #2 is kinda hard. And breaking down in an awesome car with a hot chick in it is not awesome.
So if you're insisting on buy either one of these cars, I'm thinking the only solution is to have a higher downpayment or minimally 25k, then find that high paying part time job that I was talking about (RM20 an hour) will be another matter.
Dude, you're better off with a new car la. I personally hate the Myvi even though I own 2 so I would totally discourage you from buying it. If you wanna get a cheap car get the Persona LE, for RM40k+ you can get a new car. Or if you can top up your budget, the Preve LE, that one is turbo goodness with the manual option. Plenty to mod on both these cars but less gaya mutu keunggulan compared to the beemer and tezza. But less headaches since parts cheaper and less parts to fix.
My 2 cents. Don't mean to be a wet blanket.
Join dy lo bro. I'm the one who posted the various Tezza kits. :D
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Depends how u drive it. Saw some rarely drive, 3 months, kong jor.
Make sure to use the premix and eo for rotary.
I got sell.
Eh, studies ended already?
I'm shocked! You didn't wet blanket his choice of cars?
Dude, since no one else is going to be upfront, let me be brutally honest with you. Both of these cars are out of your league for now since you'll be working part time only. Let's talk realistically, at best you get RM20 per hour (at best!) and you work 20 hours a week (at best again). That's RM1600 a month at best without any deductions (EPF, Socso, food, etc).
A 40k car (2nd hand) will have about 3.3% interest rates, and assuming it'll be a 5 year loan, with your dad paying 10k downpayment (awesome dad btw), that means your loan will be 30k.
So calculations :
Interest for 5 years = (3.3% * 30,000) x 5 = RM4950
Car loan = RM4950 + RM30,000 = RM34950
Monthly instalment = RM582.50
That leaves you with RM1600 - RM582.50 = RM1017.50
So say your average travel distance per day is 50km, times 5 days is 250km per week. These cars aren't exactly fuel friendly cars but I'll give them benefit of the doubt and give you 10km/L and I'll just estimate they have 40L tanks. That's about RM74 a week (you won't leave it until empty to refill right?) meaning RM290 on average for fuel per week.
Meaning you'll be left with RM1017.50 - RM290 = RM727.50
If you take away food (average RM10 a day for lunch, skip BF) RM200 a week that leaves you with RM500 odd loose change.
That's barely enough to replace the battery for the beemer, much less the parts you'll need to replace with the age of those cars. Of course there's the exception where you buy a car from a brother who completely overhauled the car and fixed all outstanding things before selling to you. If yes - then great... but these are old cars. There'll always bound to be something he forgot to fix.
I'm not familiar with the BMW nor the Tezza, but the S60 Volvo I do know. There's these joints in the front suspension that make a helluva racket after some mileage (about 20k km odd) and need changing. Those joints are RM180 a piece without install. So that's RM360 gone leaving you with barely enough money to buy a girl a meal. I mean come on, you buy a car like this for two reasons :
1. They are awesome cars and you just wanna own a piece of awesomeness
2. You got a hot chick you wanna impress
And with the amount money left behind #2 is kinda hard. And breaking down in an awesome car with a hot chick in it is not awesome.
So if you're insisting on buy either one of these cars, I'm thinking the only solution is to have a higher downpayment or minimally 25k, then find that high paying part time job that I was talking about (RM20 an hour) will be another matter.
Dude, you're better off with a new car la. I personally hate the Myvi even though I own 2 so I would totally discourage you from buying it. If you wanna get a cheap car get the Persona LE, for RM40k+ you can get a new car. Or if you can top up your budget, the Preve LE, that one is turbo goodness with the manual option. Plenty to mod on both these cars but less gaya mutu keunggulan compared to the beemer and tezza. But less headaches since parts cheaper and less parts to fix.
My 2 cents. Don't mean to be a wet blanket.
You're giving this new guy a cold shoulder... But realistically speaking, you are right about all this. Maintenance of these cars is rather expensive for a 17 year old. Plus, you still haven't ruled out the possibly of money used for entertainment purposes as most teenagers won't just sit quietly at home 24/7 without going for an outing with friends.
BTW, why din't suggest cars like Wira, Satria or Putra. They can be quite fun to drive too and it's a good car to start with.
Not cold shoulder. Just wet blanket. Big difference! Besides, I'm just being realistic so he doesn't make the same mistakes I did. If I had not messed around with ICE so much last time, I'd be able to afford a lot of nice cars now. Yes... ICE is bloody expensive. Oh but the sound is so bloody awesssssssommmmmmmme
Forget about entertainment. Who buys a BMW or Tezza just to admire at home? Sure will rev the shit outta it sometime. When that happens helloooooooo wear and tear and other scary stuff breaking down.
And good point - Wira and Putra. Fuuuuh.. especially Putra NA, clean and simple. Awesome base for mods
I'm shocked! You didn't wet blanket his choice of cars?
Dude, since no one else is going to be upfront, let me be brutally honest with you. Both of these cars are out of your league for now since you'll be working part time only. Let's talk realistically, at best you get RM20 per hour (at best!) and you work 20 hours a week (at best again). That's RM1600 a month at best without any deductions (EPF, Socso, food, etc).
A 40k car (2nd hand) will have about 3.3% interest rates, and assuming it'll be a 5 year loan, with your dad paying 10k downpayment (awesome dad btw), that means your loan will be 30k.
So calculations :
Interest for 5 years = (3.3% * 30,000) x 5 = RM4950
Car loan = RM4950 + RM30,000 = RM34950
Monthly instalment = RM582.50
That leaves you with RM1600 - RM582.50 = RM1017.50
So say your average travel distance per day is 50km, times 5 days is 250km per week. These cars aren't exactly fuel friendly cars but I'll give them benefit of the doubt and give you 10km/L and I'll just estimate they have 40L tanks. That's about RM74 a week (you won't leave it until empty to refill right?) meaning RM290 on average for fuel per week.
Meaning you'll be left with RM1017.50 - RM290 = RM727.50
If you take away food (average RM10 a day for lunch, skip BF) RM200 a week that leaves you with RM500 odd loose change.
That's barely enough to replace the battery for the beemer, much less the parts you'll need to replace with the age of those cars. Of course there's the exception where you buy a car from a brother who completely overhauled the car and fixed all outstanding things before selling to you. If yes - then great... but these are old cars. There'll always bound to be something he forgot to fix.
I'm not familiar with the BMW nor the Tezza, but the S60 Volvo I do know. There's these joints in the front suspension that make a helluva racket after some mileage (about 20k km odd) and need changing. Those joints are RM180 a piece without install. So that's RM360 gone leaving you with barely enough money to buy a girl a meal. I mean come on, you buy a car like this for two reasons :
1. They are awesome cars and you just wanna own a piece of awesomeness
2. You got a hot chick you wanna impress
And with the amount money left behind #2 is kinda hard. And breaking down in an awesome car with a hot chick in it is not awesome.
So if you're insisting on buy either one of these cars, I'm thinking the only solution is to have a higher downpayment or minimally 25k, then find that high paying part time job that I was talking about (RM20 an hour) will be another matter.
Dude, you're better off with a new car la. I personally hate the Myvi even though I own 2 so I would totally discourage you from buying it. If you wanna get a cheap car get the Persona LE, for RM40k+ you can get a new car. Or if you can top up your budget, the Preve LE, that one is turbo goodness with the manual option. Plenty to mod on both these cars but less gaya mutu keunggulan compared to the beemer and tezza. But less headaches since parts cheaper and less parts to fix.
My 2 cents. Don't mean to be a wet blanket.
Fark, Im too outdated.
http://star-motoring.com/getattachment/Reviews/2012/Five-speed-manual-Preve-tested/file653o6q4aue9nchggcpk.jpg.aspx
MANUAL MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stutututu (BOV).
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Yeap. 2 months dy, happily graduated.
Too bad u in Ipoh. Gonna have an opening.
Wira can be quite fun but the looks too outdated dy. Sorry izso.
Your lembu still looks great tho.
im a 320i owner as well but e90 model, anyways its true that beemers require extra attention & $$$.
its true that 320i is under powered compared to 323,325,328i, but for a slow driver like me I can adapt to it.
but if im in your shoes, single & rich parents id go for the altezza 6 speed manual.
its true that 320i is under powered compared to 323,325,328i, but for a slow driver like me I can adapt to it.
but if im in your shoes, single & rich parents id go for the altezza 6 speed manual.
Just my 0.02 on both cars. I am comparing IS300 vs 328i. Very good choices.
Toyota/Lexus IS300. What can I can. Relaible. Not as expensive for parts & maintainence. Exterior design is nice all around. Interior is pleasing. Braking & power is sufficient.
BMW 328i. Reliable if it is maintained properly. As usual for European cars. Electrical gremlins. Vanos seal. Oil seals, etc. Exterior is as usual very well design. Interior is luxury & seats are firm but ergonomic. Braking is better than IS300. Power is great over the rpm, IS300 is lack on the low end.
Since you are working to pay for it and school. I would go for the IS instead. If you are full time working & can do some wrenching, then go for the BMW.
Either one, good luck & have fun.
Toyota/Lexus IS300. What can I can. Relaible. Not as expensive for parts & maintainence. Exterior design is nice all around. Interior is pleasing. Braking & power is sufficient.
BMW 328i. Reliable if it is maintained properly. As usual for European cars. Electrical gremlins. Vanos seal. Oil seals, etc. Exterior is as usual very well design. Interior is luxury & seats are firm but ergonomic. Braking is better than IS300. Power is great over the rpm, IS300 is lack on the low end.
Since you are working to pay for it and school. I would go for the IS instead. If you are full time working & can do some wrenching, then go for the BMW.
Either one, good luck & have fun.
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