Real Economy - Petrol or Diesel car ?

[D7zul]

actually, both engine was invented for different purposes..

Diesel - being the torque-est of them both.. was invented to carry heavy weight.. can't rev as much as petrol.. thus, lower horsepower rating.. perfect for truck, lorry, and above..

Petrol - being the most horse-powerful engine.. was invented to carry light weight.. can't beat the torque of a diesel with same displacement.. thus, perfect for passenger car..

so, my conclusion is :

if u carry lots n lots of weight, get a diesel engine.. this is the cheaper choice for u..

if u carry passenger & stuff, get a petrol engine.. this is the cheaper choice for u..

hope this help

 

[pwhyze]

actually, both engine was invented for different purposes..

Diesel - being the torque-est of them both.. was invented to carry heavy weight.. can't rev as much as petrol.. thus, lower horsepower rating.. perfect for truck, lorry, and above..

Petrol - being the most horse-powerful engine.. was invented to carry light weight.. can't beat the torque of a diesel with same displacement.. thus, perfect for passenger car..

so, my conclusion is :

if u carry lots n lots of weight, get a diesel engine.. this is the cheaper choice for u..

if u carry passenger & stuff, get a petrol engine.. this is the cheaper choice for u..

hope this help

I don't really agree on this. If this were the case now, BMWs, Mercs and various other makers wouldn't be churning out diesel powered saloons and hatchbacks for the market. These type of cars are not made for load carrying.

The fact is, current diesel technology has made diesel engine a viable option next to petrol engine, in pretty much every category (except maybe, performance, for now.....although Audi did win Le Mans with a diesel)

 

[D7zul]

I don't really agree on this. If this were the case now, BMWs, Mercs and various other makers wouldn't be churning out diesel powered saloons and hatchbacks for the market. These type of cars are not made for load carrying.

The fact is, current diesel technology has made diesel engine a viable option next to petrol engine, in pretty much every category (except maybe, performance, for now.....although Audi did win Le Mans with a diesel)

yup.. with new development of technology, the line between those 2 engine has blurred..

same case with cellphone & computer.. they're both was design to do different things.. but now both also can do d same task

 

[arturo]

yup.. with new development of technology, the line between those 2 engine has blurred..

same case with cellphone & computer.. they're both was design to do different things.. but now both also can do d same task

**will wait n see which survives...*

..goodbye to the PC. the end is neigh...

 

[Sierra333]

Im looking for a diesel car.. any advise?? advise on DIESEL CAR ONLY.. :proud:

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Im looking for a diesel car.. any advise?? advise on DIESEL CAR ONLY.. :proud:

sedan,hatchback, 4x4, SUV? budget?

 

[papagoines]

...or budget for that matter....

if money no object, would've gone for Peugeot 508 GT.... looks nice...big bodied sedan wif a 2.2liter turbo diesel huhuhu

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

...or budget for that matter....

if money no object, would've gone for Peugeot 508 GT.... looks nice...big bodied sedan wif a 2.2liter turbo diesel huhuhu

Look very high class indeed...love the 508 too!

rear view got a bit bentley feel

 

[Sierra333]

sedan,hatchback, 4x4, SUV? budget?

i want lesley to answer me..hehhhh

 

[ixeo]

P.S - well, argue all u want. Look at the numbers on the votes. As at Sunday 25 Nov it's Petrol 44 vs Diesel 85.

This I have to disagree. Votes are merely a popularity contest, which does not reflect the truth or facts.

Look at our current government. They have the votes. Are they doing a good job? LOL.

cabutz.

 

[TitanRev]

Thread is re-opened for discussion. No more personal insults and off topic will be tolerated further. You have been warned. Troublemakers will have their post deleted and ban. Thank you

Reason for thread re-open is because there have been request and the useful information provided by all that will be useful to everyone.

 

[TitanRev]

Thread back online for discussion. Please read above warning

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Finally the interesting and fun to discuss thread is re-open again. TTIF! Thanks TitanRev is Friday..

 

[D7zul]

Thanx TitanRev for re-opening this thread

i'm just wondering.. how much RM per KM for diesel?

my KE70 NGV around 6 cents per km..

 

[LesleyAprotto]

You guys go ahead with the petrol-diesel discussion...

I think today is my last day here...

Goodbye and sincere apologies to all whom i called names or whatsover!

Take care!

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

You guys go ahead with the petrol-diesel discussion...

I think today is my last day here...

Goodbye and sincere apologies to all whom i called names or whatsover!

Take care!

Gonna miss you bro...take care...

 

[quicksilver7]

Diesel...nuff said....I have had 2 diesel pickups...Storm stolen and the current Frontier as workhorse and heavy duty work....1 full tank I can go like 600+ km...my truck is running an aftermarket air filter with a custom full exhaust and boosting 1 bar, I change the shocks to Gabriel Ultra stiffer rating....current mileage is 167,210km...never did any major service or break down...

Normal service only cost me around 150 for engine oil and oil filter...major service including rear diff oil, trans oil and the transfer case oil...less than 400....fan belt, alternator belt, less than 100 can get...running on timing chain so no timing belt to change....fuel filter only change once...IIRC the price was a bit more expensive compare to cars forget how much was it...fuel injector service once (cleaning),

Tires, I change to 245/60 cost about 300/pcs...It's Yokohama Geolander HTS...

From my own personal experience of owing it for more than 5 years now...I have never ever been failed by this truck SERIOUSLY...the power, torque and responsiveness of the engine is something you couldn't get from a normal petrol engine...i go up mountain down the sea with this car during my period of owning it...the most I like is going up hill roads, Fraser, Genting, Cameron...no need turn off AC just whack all the way up...all the petrol cars really no match and have no choice but to give way....except those high power ones la...Hahahaha....The best part, I've hauled several times 600kg (1 pallet of goods) to KLIA and sometimes Port Klang and can't find any sign of underpower....If you ask me, do I spend a lot to maintain it...NO...it's just like owning a petrol car...does it break down a lot.....er...it never break down....diesel engines are very tough you know..especially the engine block because they are built tough to withstand the super high compression of diesel engine..16.5:1...

Now I drive petrol car and diesel also...I'm having a 2.4L petrol car...and still I complain that it feels less punchy than a diesel....I've been to Europe for a lot of times and you will know why over there their sales of Diesel car is way better than petrol....and they seems not too fond about Hybrids....Diesel technology these days are moving very fast ahead.....is just that Malaysia still can't get into the trend...just look at the Ford Focus Diesel....partly also due to the diesel fuel here...


Hope this info is helpful to any interested future diesel owner....

Sorry for bringing up this topic suddenly, I just read the thread. I do not know what's happening but just wanna comment on this post.

I used to drive the Frontier along the Karak highway, good diesel pick up. I normally floor it at one particular stretch on the Karak Highway, going back to KL, after you pass a toll house there's a very steep incline just ahead. So I'll just floor the pedal, 1st 2nd 3rd gear to the max but the car runs out of puff when it reaches 4th gear. No matter what it doesn't get above 80 (I THINK)

The main problem i think with diesel cars are their very short gear ratios..

 

[TitanRev]

Quicksilver, yours AT or MT?

 

[ixeo]

Thanx TitanRev for re-opening this thread

i'm just wondering.. how much RM per KM for diesel?

my KE70 NGV around 6 cents per km..

Depends what engine & car, and how its driven. The biggest contributor to FC is the right foot..

 

[BuroQ]

I would be interested to know the FC difference between a petrol and a diesel powered vehicle especially those who use 4WD vehicles as their daily commute. To make it more interesting, the vehicles are daily driven in KL. From home to office (assuming its point A to point B, without taking any short cuts in between, following the speed limit or slightly below that and include slow moving or getting stuck in traffic)

How much can a full tank tahan in terms of weeks or days and how frequent you fill up petrol?

Anyway, do pardon my ignorance if I may use the wrong term and detail for comparison purposes. Feel free to correct me on this.