Do Ultra Racing Bars increase Car Safety?

[ace7]

Hi guys,

1. Do Ultra Racing bars increase car safety? Safety of a car like SAGA SV?
   
2. Do they decrease comfort of a car like SAGA SV?

 

[ixeo]

Truth is, any answer you get for question 1 is probably crapshoot, reason being nobody did any controlled environment tests like NCAP to confirm that Ultra Racing bars really do increase car safety or they merely change the deformity of the car during a crash.

As for 2. I don't know about Saga, but similar products did not reduce comfort for other cars.

 

[boyzone]

Hi guys,

1. Do Ultra Racing bars increase car safety? Safety of a car like SAGA SV?
   
2. Do they decrease comfort of a car like SAGA SV?

No idea on the safety but improve on handling on my Satria, Putra & Gen 2.

 

[123]

installed rear arb on my ex-civic ef 2 door before, increased stability a lot, previously very scared going downhill at semantan, after installed improved a lot

 

[TheDuckster]

Hi guys,

1. Do Ultra Racing bars increase car safety? Safety of a car like SAGA SV?
   
2. Do they decrease comfort of a car like SAGA SV?

it will not improve safety. it's meant to modify handling characteristics, not safety. Example: less body roll, "responsive" handling, etc. As for comfort, some like the stock handling, some like the more responsive type.
your call.

or you can trust this shady website
http://www.e-revmotorsports.com.sg/Ultra_Racing_Strut_Bar_Safety_Aspect.htm

 

[ace7]

it will not improve safety. it's meant to modify handling characteristics, not safety. Example: less body roll, "responsive" handling, etc. As for comfort, some like the stock handling, some like the more responsive type.
your call.

or you can trust this shady website
http://www.e-revmotorsports.com.sg/Ultra_Racing_Strut_Bar_Safety_Aspect.htm

The links you provided have the same pictures that Ultra Racing themselves have pasted on their own website.

http://www.ultraracing.my/home/knowledge-base/chassis-friendly/


They have a whole page on their website that explains how it makes the car safer.

But I guess without some tests they are just stories or anecdotal evidence.

 

[Izso]

Kenny from UR got into a massive accident in his old Satria GTI that was kitted out with the whole range of UR bars. One of the things that saved him from getting into a lot of trouble was the room bar which transferred the side impact damage from one side of the cabin to the other rather than transferring the impact to the cabin itself. It damn near saved his girlfriends life.

But in the right conditions, the exact opposite is possible too since the bars change the crash characteristics of the car. Like fender bars alter how stiff the front end of the car is so a head on collision may not be so pretty.

And if you think stiffening up a cars chassis is going to make the car more comfortable you're in for a rude surprise.

 

[vr2turbo]

it will not improve safety. it's meant to modify handling characteristics, not safety. Example: less body roll, "responsive" handling, etc. As for comfort, some like the stock handling, some like the more responsive type.
your call.

Car become more stable, driver go faster and in the end becomes less safe.....hahahhaha

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Car become more stable, driver go faster and in the end becomes less safe.....hahahhaha

I think that's the reason why some did mention that Ultra Racing bars are not safe and in fact caused the car to lose control?

So would it be more likely be the bars improve the handling but drivers became too confident with it and went beyond the limit of what the Ultra Racing Bars are capable of doing?

I believe there are limits to most man made things

 

[beatnik]

I think that's the reason why some did mention that Ultra Racing bars are not safe and in fact caused the car to lose control?

make sense, for example, if one install rear roll bar with bigger diameter than the front, there is a chance for oversteer.

most 'bars' on the market are meant for improving the structural rigidity. 'safety' is probably an added benefit (if any).

i don't see big names like cusco, j's racing, do-luck ever advertise their chassis braces as safety equipments, so probably "safety" is used as a marketing ploy
just saying.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

make sense, for example, if one install rear roll bar with bigger diameter than the front, there is a chance for oversteer.

most 'bars' on the market are meant for improving the structural rigidity. 'safety' is probably an added benefit (if any).

i don't see big names like cusco, j's racing, do-luck ever advertise their chassis braces as safety equipments, so probably "safety" is used as a marketing ploy
just saying.

Cusco, not cheap I think. UR some say overated or just sales gimmick saying that their bars saved an EVO from being torn apart from the crash and driver is safe because of the bars. :hmmmm2:

 

[YYC]

Bars for safety is controversial la. Only rollcage gives both safety and handling.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

mainly increase chassiss rigidness...


it may helps abit on safety factor...but dont expect much....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Bars for safety is controversial la. Only rollcage gives both safety and handling.

But some said rollcage is illegal because it may end up something that kills the driver instead if it snaps?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

But some said rollcage is illegal because it may end up something that kills the driver instead if it snaps?

not because of snapped rollcage...

but more towards the rollcage became metal tumbler inside your car....there is reason why race car must use crash helmets and minimum 4point harness with bucket seat....

 

[LiteBulb]

and in the event of an accident, roll cage will make it difficult for fireman to cut?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

and in the event of an accident, roll cage will make it difficult for fireman to cut?

also true

 

[Izso]

and in the event of an accident, roll cage will make it difficult for fireman to cut?

Better to be stuck in a roll-caged cabin than a mangled cabin with my legs pinned under something

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Want to increase the safety level of a car? Drive slow or at least according to the speed limit and responsibly.

No bars or roll cage can guarantee you to be 100% safe in an event of accident. The word itself says it all, accident. It is unpredictable and it can happen anytime, anywhere. Depending on what you hit or what hit you, the impact and damage to the car may vary in different situations.

 

[vr2turbo]

Want to increase the safety level of a car? Drive slow or at least according to the speed limit and responsibly.

No bars or roll cage can guarantee you to be 100% safe in an event of accident. The word itself says it all, accident. It is unpredictable and it can happen anytime, anywhere. Depending on what you hit or what hit you, the impact and damage to the car may vary in different situations.

But then drive slow does not mean it is safe too. I have read many cases where the other party on the other side of the highway who was speeding, loose control jump over the divider and whack the innocent fellow driving at speed limit.....