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Talking about autoworld, I was active there last time too under the TOCM (Toyota Owners Club Malaysia) with the nick Protonman. Yeah, I started this nick when I drove the Satria and that is when we established Protonmania club. I was one of those old old users. Back in 1998! Gosh, almost 20 years ago.
Then you are the real senior. I join in 2004 only....lol

Those days in Auto Detailing, Car Mod, Wheels and Tyres, Auto Maintenance, Petrol and Oil....:driver:
 

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No no... I joined Protonmania from 1998-2001. Then in 2002 only I joined Autoworld. So it's not really that far off from you. :)
 

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That was like a video 2 years ago. My son is 15 now and he's taller than me. Haha..
Still young. I thought in the video, he is like 16-17 because of his height. :biggrin:

Talking about autoworld, I was active there last time too under the TOCM (Toyota Owners Club Malaysia) with the nick Protonman. Yeah, I started this nick when I drove the Satria and that is when we established Protonmania club. I was one of those old old users. Back in 1998! Gosh, almost 20 years ago.
I think you are probably in your late 40s or 50s by age now? Initially I thought you are someone in 30s, hahaha.
 

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Still young. I thought in the video, he is like 16-17 because of his height. :biggrin:

I think you are probably in your late 40s or 50s by age now? Initially I thought you are someone in 30s, hahaha.
Enthusiasts not bound by age, can be young or old.......lol:rofl:
 

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Still young. I thought in the video, he is like 16-17 because of his height. :biggrin:



I think you are probably in your late 40s or 50s by age now? Initially I thought you are someone in 30s, hahaha.
haaa.. yeah, he's kinda tall boy. So he looks older than he actually is. Yup, I am over mid 40s now. Old man here. Well, probably my involvement in car mods made me sounded much younger. My wife used to say I am 'Ah Beng'... I just told her that it's car tuning and not ricey mods that I did to my cars...
 

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haaa.. yeah, he's kinda tall boy. So he looks older than he actually is. Yup, I am over mid 40s now. Old man here. Well, probably my involvement in car mods made me sounded much younger. My wife used to say I am 'Ah Beng'... I just told her that it's car tuning and not ricey mods that I did to my cars...
Very true.... but I will try to 'retire' from car mods... it seems the bug is still there.

Exactly, many are surprised when we meet up at tt, finding a much older person link to my id.....hhahahhahahha:biggrin:

Car mod I slow down dy. My major mod was my VR transplant and that was the biggest jump in power and torque. After that very little other mods, now more into comfort and handling......lol
 

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I have actually stop spending on car mods 2 years ago. Just kept doing maintenance and repair... so that's why I wanna quit for good. Moreover with the current economy situation, it's not good to overspend on unnecessary stuffs.
 

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haaa.. yeah, he's kinda tall boy. So he looks older than he actually is. Yup, I am over mid 40s now. Old man here. Well, probably my involvement in car mods made me sounded much younger. My wife used to say I am 'Ah Beng'... I just told her that it's car tuning and not ricey mods that I did to my cars...
You are like 2 times my current age, hahaha. You are in the same age group with fstrader (uncle Fred). :biggrin:

Very true.... but I will try to 'retire' from car mods... it seems the bug is still there.
Not easy for you to retire fully since you have already experienced so much of car mods stuff. Most car guys just end up playing convert cars or street cars till the end but you have already reached the stage where you are playing with performance/sports car.

While you are starting to retire, I am just on the beginning of my journey. :biggrin:

Exactly, many are surprised when we meet up at tt, finding a much older person link to my id.....hhahahhahahha:biggrin:

Car mod I slow down dy. My major mod was my VR transplant and that was the biggest jump in power and torque. After that very little other mods, now more into comfort and handling......lol
4G63T VR-4 seems quite powerful enough despite it being lower powered than Evo 1,2,3 4G63T... Sometimes I do wonder how crazy can those Wira, Satria and Putra feel with modded Evo 3 4G63T...
 

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You are like 2 times my current age, hahaha. You are in the same age group with fstrader (uncle Fred). :biggrin:



Not easy for you to retire fully since you have already experienced so much of car mods stuff. Most car guys just end up playing convert cars or street cars till the end but you have already reached the stage where you are playing with performance/sports car.

While you are starting to retire, I am just on the beginning of my journey. :biggrin:



4G63T VR-4 seems quite powerful enough despite it being lower powered than Evo 1,2,3 4G63T... Sometimes I do wonder how crazy can those Wira, Satria and Putra feel with modded Evo 3 4G63T...
Same here retired oredi..feel sad bout it but true..had loads of fun wiz my ex-wira 4g63...stock internals (even when I got a full overhaul done I retained oem parts..)..just some minor upgrades like bigger cooler,bigger injectors,bigger fuel pump,bigger throttlebody etc etc..dyno'd @ about 300..but maintained at 1bar most of d time (if wanna go crazy just a push of a button n it's at 1.3bar :)
 

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Not easy for you to retire fully since you have already experienced so much of car mods stuff. Most car guys just end up playing convert cars or street cars till the end but you have already reached the stage where you are playing with performance/sports car.

While you are starting to retire, I am just on the beginning of my journey. :biggrin:
Just go slowly.... when I was at your age, I was using Proton Saga 1.3... with standard mods. Those were the days.
 

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Same here retired oredi..feel sad bout it but true..had loads of fun wiz my ex-wira 4g63...stock internals (even when I got a full overhaul done I retained oem parts..)..just some minor upgrades like bigger cooler,bigger injectors,bigger fuel pump,bigger throttlebody etc etc..dyno'd @ about 300..but maintained at 1bar most of d time (if wanna go crazy just a push of a button n it's at 1.3bar :)
I once met a tyre shop owner before which is into car modding. He told me he used to own a Wira with Evo 2 4G63T. He told me now he want to buy R34 Skyline GTT so I say Skyline GTT should be powerful enough. He told me not really because his old Wira Evo 2 is more powerful. Said he tested his friend's GTT before and the pulling power feel is not as strong as Wira. Is Wira evo really that crazy? :confused:

Just go slowly.... when I was at your age, I was using Proton Saga 1.3... with standard mods. Those were the days.
20 years ago, having a Proton Saga is quite a good car. Still new what. Most of the members here started small with local cars.
 

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I once met a tyre shop owner before which is into car modding. He told me he used to own a Wira with Evo 2 4G63T. He told me now he want to buy R34 Skyline GTT so I say Skyline GTT should be powerful enough. He told me not really because his old Wira Evo 2 is more powerful. Said he tested his friend's GTT before and the pulling power feel is not as strong as Wira. Is Wira evo really that crazy? :confused:



20 years ago, having a Proton Saga is quite a good car. Still new what. Most of the members here started small with local cars.
Rgds to d skyline vs wira evo2 I wld agree to some extend...it's called power to weight ratio..d skyline is definitely more heavy..n assuming he modded his wira...say mid to heavy/extreme then it wld be true..but if u mod d skyline equivalently then that's a totally different ball game...
 

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Rgds to d skyline vs wira evo2 I wld agree to some extend...it's called power to weight ratio..d skyline is definitely more heavy..n assuming he modded his wira...say mid to heavy/extreme then it wld be true..but if u mod d skyline equivalently then that's a totally different ball game...
He was comparing with a stock Skyline with his slightly modded Wira. He told me he din't touch the engine internals and turbo because he wanted reliability. He also told me that he is using 205/60/15 tyre size which is the same size for stock Evo 2 and 3. I guess the lighter weight of wira and smaller wheels gave the wira an advantage over Skyline which is equipped with wider and heavier wheels.
 

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Did you know that GTT only has 250hp? And on wheel is around 180-190whp. Coupe with the body of over 1600kgs, the performance is similar to Airtrek in stock. My tuner has tuned many GTT or even GTRs, they regards them as sluggish and slow. Well, that is IF it's stock.

However the RB25DET or RB26DETT has loads of potential. With proper mods, they can FLY!
 

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He was comparing with a stock Skyline with his slightly modded Wira. He told me he din't touch the engine internals and turbo because he wanted reliability. He also told me that he is using 205/60/15 tyre size which is the same size for stock Evo 2 and 3. I guess the lighter weight of wira and smaller wheels gave the wira an advantage over Skyline which is equipped with wider and heavier wheels.
A wira with 4G63T is not considered slightly modded.....lol
One time my VR send for alignment, the tyre shop boss was also doing a wira with 4G63T. After he finished both cars and the wira left, he told me that wira got VR engine but is so light, so feel much more power than my VR with super saloon body.... :smokin:
 

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Wira chassis is only around 1000kgs and mate with a VR, that's like 240hp/ton. It;s too much actually and the chassis will not be able to take it. It's dangerous IMHO.
 

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Wira chassis is only around 1000kgs and mate with a VR, that's like 240hp/ton. It;s too much actually and the chassis will not be able to take it. It's dangerous IMHO.
Yup, if always do pick up, heard many have crack in chassis........
 

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I think in the late 90's and early 2000, there were a lot of Wiralution on the road with VR4 engines. And I've seen ridiculous 1.3 non-ventilated front brakes and rear drum brakes still intact with 240hp engines. It was just disaster waiting to happen.
 
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