Discussion On Your Daily Ride

[RENESIS VIII]

Rims I'm not too worried about because original stock rims are normally very strong and this is still made in Japan too so no doubt on its durability. Anyway even if they got bent, I already got the 5Zigen 15' so no bother. This original rims also can easily find on sale in the Swift club, and they're selling them cheap.

Maybe can. Yeah I also never seen a 1.5MT version to be honest!

Is like the usual saying where people tend to say no aftermarket wheel is stronger than those stock wheels that came with the car.
Your set of 5Zigen is also an original set from Japan?

If only there are normal Swift 1.5 manual being sold here, it would be quite a bargain for a car at that kind of price. Imagine, for half the price of a ZC31S, it can handle well with some suspension upgrade and still comes with a manual gearbox that is no slouch compared to the 4AT variants.

 

[vr2turbo]

195/50/16 is a weird size. Don't really see a lot of cars with such tyre size. Do you have any idea what tyres this car originally came with right out of factory? Normal tyres or UHP?

Ths size tyres came with the Fiesta also. At one time difficult to find this size when ex colleague called to help find. Conti Premium Contact 2 have, later if not mistaken was Falken, but recently seems a few brand now have....

 

[vr2turbo]

Hurrah for 15" tyres !

Have been asking around for your tyre size also. Yours even harder to find......lol

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Ths size tyres came with the Fiesta also. At one time difficult to find this size when ex colleague called to help find. Conti Premium Contact 2 have, later if not mistaken was Falken, but recently seems a few brand now have....

Maybe now more cars are moving on to 16' as their stock wheels, hence more brands are offering it?

Have been asking around for your tyre size also. Yours even harder to find......lol

In his case, the tyre size had become unpopular in today's industry.

 

[vr2turbo]

Maybe now more cars are moving on to 16' as their stock wheels, hence more brands are offering it?


In his case, the tyre size had become unpopular in today's industry.

Yup, they want bigger rims but car is small so narrower tyres.....lol

Those days Myvi tyres 175/65R14, now City I think 175/65R15, higher specs 185/55R16.....lol

 

[6UE5t]

Is like the usual saying where people tend to say no aftermarket wheel is stronger than those stock wheels that came with the car.
Your set of 5Zigen is also an original set from Japan?

If only there are normal Swift 1.5 manual being sold here, it would be quite a bargain for a car at that kind of price. Imagine, for half the price of a ZC31S, it can handle well with some suspension upgrade and still comes with a manual gearbox that is no slouch compared to the 4AT variants.

Yes original Japan 5Zigen, not the Taiwan one.
Yeah, if it's available I might have bought that instead so not too fast for beginners. Now I worry this ZC31S seems a bit too fast & furious now for my son.

Ths size tyres came with the Fiesta also. At one time difficult to find this size when ex colleague called to help find. Conti Premium Contact 2 have, later if not mistaken was Falken, but recently seems a few brand now have....

Still not many UHP available here, just the old Toyo T1R even though the car came from Japan with Sportmaxx and F1A2.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Yup, they want bigger rims but car is small so narrower tyres.....lol

Those days Myvi tyres 175/65R14, now City I think 175/65R15, higher specs 185/55R16.....lol

To me, I really can't get what is the point of that City 16 inch tyre size since the previous gen. Same goes for Jazz tyres as well. 16 inch but 185mm wide. So the wheels are really just for show. Sure, having a wider wheels and tyres will make the car a bit sluggish but I think that will also help a lot more in stability.

Yes original Japan 5Zigen, not the Taiwan one.
Yeah, if it's available I might have bought that instead so not too fast for beginners. Now I worry this ZC31S seems a bit too fast & furious now for my son.



Still not many UHP available here, just the old Toyo T1R even though the car came from Japan with Sportmaxx and F1A2.

"Not too fast" is still fast considering its weight and a 1.5 litre manual engine. My own Wira 1.5 is using an old engine but when pushed it, all those who tested my car before said it gets kinda fast in accelerating at 1st and 2nd gear. The Swift 1.5 manual would be quicker. As for your 1.6, I think it will rival the speed of a Satria GTi just like your old Lancer GTi.

It is a pity that Suzuki Malaysia pulled back from the automotive market. Otherwise, we would have seen the latest generation Swift on sale by now.

 

[6UE5t]

To me, I really can't get what is the point of that City 16 inch tyre size since the previous gen. Same goes for Jazz tyres as well. 16 inch but 185mm wide. So the wheels are really just for show. Sure, having a wider wheels and tyres will make the car a bit sluggish but I think that will also help a lot more in stability.



"Not too fast" is still fast considering its weight and a 1.5 litre manual engine. My own Wira 1.5 is using an old engine but when pushed it, all those who tested my car before said it gets kinda fast in accelerating at 1st and 2nd gear. The Swift 1.5 manual would be quicker. As for your 1.6, I think it will rival the speed of a Satria GTi just like your old Lancer GTi.

It is a pity that Suzuki Malaysia pulled back from the automotive market. Otherwise, we would have seen the latest generation Swift on sale by now.

Nowadays many cars are like that, use big diameter rims but narrow because follow fashion trend because people are too fixated on big diameter rims! Just look at the Mazda 6 2.5 with that huge 19' but only what, 7 or 7.5j width!?? See from the side, such huge rims but when see from behind, so skinny legs which are so much inside the fender, just ridiculous!

Yes about similar speed to my old CB5 or even quicker, around 8+secs 0-100 acceleration but will loose out on top speed due to shorter gearing. I think this car has surprised quite a few bigger cars on the road so far.

Yeah pity that Suzuki pulled out, and quite surprising if you see there are so many Swifts on the road actually. The new ZC33S is a giant killer with 140HP and 230NM from about the same 1 ton weight! Since it's turbocharged, so much easier also to extract more power from it. A Suzuki tuner in UK already tuned his ZC33S to almost 180hp/290NM with still more parts upgrade to come because that is still in progress! Oh btw speaking about turbo Swifts, in Jakarta there's a 400HP turbo ZC31S! Madness!

 

[vr2turbo]

To me, I really can't get what is the point of that City 16 inch tyre size since the previous gen. Same goes for Jazz tyres as well. 16 inch but 185mm wide. So the wheels are really just for show. Sure, having a wider wheels and tyres will make the car a bit sluggish but I think that will also help a lot more in stability.

Ah! stability is more for the racer type, car modders etc., but for many layman tyres are tyres. Car manufacturers first thing lower cost, car better FC, comfort, so they fit what is necessary to achieve this goal......lol

 

[Izso]

- I know about that method. No, it just doesn't have that function. Coz for autodown/up, there'll always be an extra click when you press/pull on the button to engage the auto function. So in this case the extra click is only for downward press while the pull has no click.

- I just bang or press lightly the button panel then the sound goes away. I'll just leave it coz not so annoying for me.

No, never driven the normal 1.5ltr version. They're mostly all 4 speed AT too, so not really interested to try. It should be softer coz the absorbers are different than the Sport one.

Actually - the click doesn't always apply. Nissans have no click and just winds up. Anyway that's irrelevant. I need to test out my in-laws car to compare.

Come la.. we DIY remove that annoying rattle. The door panel removal process is easy and there's nothing a cable tie cannot silence.

Lastly the non-sport model Swifts are dull and long gear ratio-ed. Since only the auto is available the car feels very boxy and the short wheel base doesn't help the handling feel. Feels very Myvi-ish (1st/2nd gen). Don't like it. But as a point A to B car it's better than a Myvi 1st/2nd gen.

If only there are normal Swift 1.5 manual being sold here, it would be quite a bargain for a car at that kind of price. Imagine, for half the price of a ZC31S, it can handle well with some suspension upgrade and still comes with a manual gearbox that is no slouch compared to the 4AT variants.

I doubt it'll be anywhere as good as you think it'll be. The non-sport version (I don't know how many CC is the earlier gen Swift) is so gut-less.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Nowadays many cars are like that, use big diameter rims but narrow because follow fashion trend because people are too fixated on big diameter rims! Just look at the Mazda 6 2.5 with that huge 19' but only what, 7 or 7.5j width!?? See from the side, such huge rims but when see from behind, so skinny legs which are so much inside the fender, just ridiculous!

Yes about similar speed to my old CB5 or even quicker, around 8+secs 0-100 acceleration but will loose out on top speed due to shorter gearing. I think this car has surprised quite a few bigger cars on the road so far.

Yeah pity that Suzuki pulled out, and quite surprising if you see there are so many Swifts on the road actually. The new ZC33S is a giant killer with 140HP and 230NM from about the same 1 ton weight! Since it's turbocharged, so much easier also to extract more power from it. A Suzuki tuner in UK already tuned his ZC33S to almost 180hp/290NM with still more parts upgrade to come because that is still in progress! Oh btw speaking about turbo Swifts, in Jakarta there's a 400HP turbo ZC31S! Madness!

19 inch but with 225mm width for Mazda 6 I think?

Your CB5 is likely heavier but the 200cc advantage and longer gearing helps out in top speed. The ZC31S can surprise bigger cars on the road in terms of acceleration as the power to weight ratio + short gearing ratio makes it a quick in accelerating.

The new Swift even came with turbo engines for the normal versions. A lot of potential to extract power like you said. What a horrible timing for Suzuki to pull out. They announced it after their collaboration with Proton but less than a year later, Proton had been bought by Geely and I think there goes the Suzuki collaboration. Not even sure what Proton is trying to do with their Japanese partners. Few years ago, they talk about renewed technology transfer agreement with Mitsubishi but only Inspira was rebadged. Later on with Honda but that collaboration is only for the Accord. Lastly, Suzuki but only the Ertiga was released.

Ah! stability is more for the racer type, car modders etc., but for many layman tyres are tyres. Car manufacturers first thing lower cost, car better FC, comfort, so they fit what is necessary to achieve this goal......lol

Want to lower cost but still want to look good, hence stuff like these narrow 16' wheels with 185 tyres appear... FC may suffer a little bit if the tyre width is increased but I think that will also help in comfort.

 

[6UE5t]

Actually - the click doesn't always apply. Nissans have no click and just winds up. Anyway that's irrelevant. I need to test out my in-laws car to compare.

Come la.. we DIY remove that annoying rattle. The door panel removal process is easy and there's nothing a cable tie cannot silence.

Lastly the non-sport model Swifts are dull and long gear ratio-ed. Since only the auto is available the car feels very boxy and the short wheel base doesn't help the handling feel. Feels very Myvi-ish (1st/2nd gen). Don't like it. But as a point A to B car it's better than a Myvi 1st/2nd gen.


I doubt it'll be anywhere as good as you think it'll be. The non-sport version (I don't know how many CC is the earlier gen Swift) is so gut-less.

In my Livina, there are extra clicks for both up/down. Mark X also. In this ZC31S only downward click.

It's ok lah, not always rattle too. It's not the door panel actually but just the power window panel. The buttons maybe not so good fitment to the panel casing so sometimes may rattle just a bit but not often actually.

ZC21 is 1.5ltr 100HP with only 4 speed AT, so yeah gutless.

 

[6UE5t]

19 inch but with 225mm width for Mazda 6 I think?

Your CB5 is likely heavier but the 200cc advantage and longer gearing helps out in top speed. The ZC31S can surprise bigger cars on the road in terms of acceleration as the power to weight ratio + short gearing ratio makes it a quick in accelerating.

The new Swift even came with turbo engines for the normal versions. A lot of potential to extract power like you said. What a horrible timing for Suzuki to pull out. They announced it after their collaboration with Proton but less than a year later, Proton had been bought by Geely and I think there goes the Suzuki collaboration. Not even sure what Proton is trying to do with their Japanese partners. Few years ago, they talk about renewed technology transfer agreement with Mitsubishi but only Inspira was rebadged. Later on with Honda but that collaboration is only for the Accord. Lastly, Suzuki but only the Ertiga was released.
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The CB5 was about 100kg heavier and around 15hp/10nm more powerful if compared stock to stock specs. But I think now with my remap and exhaust mods, the difference should be much smaller and it might be even quicker.

Yeah I had outgunned some lansi bigger cars with this little rocket, like pre-Skyactive Mazda 6 2.5 and a CLA200.

I'm hoping some recon importer will bring some ZC33S manual here. It looks so good in dark color like black or grey.

 

[TitanRev]

Wow...all the fast daily driven car....I only drive a civic 1.8 and saga 1.3..sad life...

 

[RENESIS VIII]

The CB5 was about 100kg heavier and around 15hp/10nm more powerful if compared stock to stock specs. But I think now with my remap and exhaust mods, the difference should be much smaller and it might be even quicker.

Yeah I had outgunned some lansi bigger cars with this little rocket, like pre-Skyactive Mazda 6 2.5 and a CLA200.

I'm hoping some recon importer will bring some ZC33S manual here. It looks so good in dark color like black or grey.

15hp different may not sound like much but I think the 100kg difference is quite heavy.

I'm surprised about the CLA200 as it is not a slow car with its 1.6 turbo engine.

Hopefully we will be able to see some ZC33S coming into Malaysia shores some day. Speaking of recon, did any recon importer brought in any of these ZC31S and ZC32S? I've seen ads for recon Honda Fit RS manual though.

 

[6UE5t]

15hp different may not sound like much but I think the 100kg difference is quite heavy.

I'm surprised about the CLA200 as it is not a slow car with its 1.6 turbo engine.

Hopefully we will be able to see some ZC33S coming into Malaysia shores some day. Speaking of recon, did any recon importer brought in any of these ZC31S and ZC32S? I've seen ads for recon Honda Fit RS manual though.

The CLA200, probably not really slower but more because of being caught off guard more than anything else.

Not sure on ZC31S but many ZC32S were brought in by recon importers.

 

[sanekit]

Wow...all the fast daily driven car....I only drive a civic 1.8 and saga 1.3..sad life...

your civic 1.8 convert is faster than my beat up 1.8 sohc auto wira. can we swap for 1 week please?

 

[6UE5t]

Wow...all the fast daily driven car....I only drive a civic 1.8 and saga 1.3..sad life...

1.8 Civic as in B18C EG6? Even if the cars are slower, I'm quite sure the driver is more than capable to make up for that.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

The CLA200, probably not really slower but more because of being caught off guard more than anything else.

Not sure on ZC31S but many ZC32S were brought in by recon importers.

Your quick reaction and response caught the CLA200 driver unaware. Thinking it is just some ordinary Swift.

I actually wonder how cheap can they get these ZC32S for sale? Already the new car is about 100k, can the recon units still get any lower?

1.8 Civic as in B18C EG6? Even if the cars are slower, I'm quite sure the driver is more than capable to make up for that.

He's just pulling our legs. It looks like a 1.8 but it is actually a FD2R

 

[vr2turbo]

He's just pulling our legs. It looks like a 1.8 but it is actually a FD2R

Wah! Exactly to the point, looks like.....hhahahhahah