UMW Warehouse Sales

[vr2turbo]

Hi Guys & Gals,

Was ask by some to inform when there is any sales.
Well, the UMW warehouse sales is back from 29/11/2012 to 02/12/2012

Pennzoil and Repsol oil on sale.....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Any comment for these both engine oils? I only know all the while Toyota is using Penzoil at their SC centers for Toyota Cars?

 

[vr2turbo]

Any comment for these both engine oils? I only know all the while Toyota is using Penzoil at their SC centers for Toyota Cars?

Pennzoil quite reputed oil. Got rally team also, but now changed to Repsol already.
Repsol, if not mistaken, to me more well known for Motorcycle oil last time, now have for Cars too.

Not sure what is on offer, but last sale, together with cheaper price, they get out goodies like backpack and so on....

 

[ixeo]

Take note Pennzoil, Repsol, although are international brands, the products you buy in Malaysia is packed locally or in Singapore, so the oil inside is NOT THE SAME as the ones overseas. They can put sub standard oil and you won't know anyway.

Redline, Torco etc, those are exactly the same as overseas.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Take note Pennzoil, Repsol, although are international brands, the products you buy in Malaysia is packed locally or in Singapore, so the oil inside is NOT THE SAME as the ones overseas. They can put sub standard oil and you won't know anyway.

Redline, Torco etc, those are exactly the same as overseas.

What about Chemlube bro IXEO? Any experience/info on this?

 

[vr2turbo]

Take note Pennzoil, Repsol, although are international brands, the products you buy in Malaysia is packed locally or in Singapore, so the oil inside is NOT THE SAME as the ones overseas. They can put sub standard oil and you won't know anyway.

Redline, Torco etc, those are exactly the same as overseas.

I don't mind if they are packed, means they bring in barrel and pack locally to save on transportation.
Some are blended locally, so that have question mark, but for reputed brand I am not so worried.
Torco and Redline different category mah! Ester based Group 5 oil. Pennzoil and Repsol are probably hydro cracked Full Synthetic Group 3 only and there is a huge price difference.
If have Godzilla, sure I will be using Torco or Redline, but NA and even my old school turbo, these oil are good enough. In fact have been change brands and viscosity every now and then, and engine already with me for at least 10 years...

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

There are too many engine oil brands out there, just so confusing on which one is better...since everyone rating themselves as
No.1 or Best.

 

[vr2turbo]

There are too many engine oil brands out there, just so confusing on which one is better...since everyone rating themselves as
No.1 or Best.

True also, just buy branded if afraid....Got $$$ buy most expensive.....

 

[ixeo]

What about Chemlube bro IXEO? Any experience/info on this?

No idea, but my dad uses Chemlube on his ride. - I'll check the bottle for you later tonight.

I don't mind if they are packed, means they bring in barrel and pack locally to save on transportation.
Some are blended locally, so that have question mark, but for reputed brand I am not so worried.
Torco and Redline different category mah! Ester based Group 5 oil. Pennzoil and Repsol are probably hydro cracked Full Synthetic Group 3 only and there is a huge price difference.
If have Godzilla, sure I will be using Torco or Redline, but NA and even my old school turbo, these oil are good enough. In fact have been change brands and viscosity every now and then, and engine already with me for at least 10 years...

You assume its the same oil. I doubt it for one simple reason, PROFITS. We don't know if the oils packed here are blended here or is it the original formula. Nobody knows. You want to be safe, buy Torco, Redline etc. Even Motul non-Group V is imported. The Motul H-Tech is not very expensive also.

Alternative? Buy Shell Helix from Tesco, that's fully imported from EU. Same stuff they use in Ferraris over there.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

True also, just buy branded if afraid....Got $$$ buy most expensive.....

Yup, which is why I use Chemlube for my altis so far so good. Just slightly touch expensive category of RM200 for 4L.

Kelisa uses Castrol Magnatec.

BLM using, Petronas one if not wrong since is SC service.

No idea, but my dad uses Chemlube on his ride. - I'll check the bottle for you later tonight.

You assume its the same oil. I doubt it for one simple reason, PROFITS. We don't know if the oils packed here are blended here or is it the original formula. Nobody knows. You want to be safe, buy Torco, Redline etc. Even Motul non-Group V is imported. The Motul H-Tech is not very expensive also.

Alternative? Buy Shell Helix from Tesco, that's fully imported from EU. Same stuff they use in Ferraris over there.

Thanks bro! Ya, can buy from either petrol station itself or from supermarkets like Tesco to be safe and sure that it is good quality engine oil...

 

[vr2turbo]

No idea, but my dad uses Chemlube on his ride. - I'll check the bottle for you later tonight.



You assume its the same oil. I doubt it for one simple reason, PROFITS. We don't know if the oils packed here are blended here or is it the original formula. Nobody knows. You want to be safe, buy Torco, Redline etc. Even Motul non-Group V is imported. The Motul H-Tech is not very expensive also.

Alternative? Buy Shell Helix from Tesco, that's fully imported from EU. Same stuff they use in Ferraris over there.

For Pennzoil, I am not afraid because it belongs to Shell. As far as I know Repsol also would not allow you to change anything, unless if you mean they do it under table....

Oh! Chemlube is good stuff. I think Group V also.....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

For Pennzoil, I am not afraid because it belongs to Shell. As far as I know Repsol also would not allow you to change anything, unless if you mean they do it under table....

Oh! Chemlube is good stuff. I think Group V also.....

There are 2 types, Chemlube and another is Chemlube Racing. Love Chemlube Racing after 1st try Though is slightly more expensive than the normal chemlube...:top:

Will lead to addiction...

 

[vr2turbo]

There are 2 types, Chemlube and another is Chemlube Racing. Love Chemlube Racing after 1st try Though is slightly more expensive than the normal chemlube...:top:

Will lead to addiction...

The car go high......hahahahahahha

 

[kswee]

I saw before louis motor oil in taiwan, don't know where it made from. but it can burn up till 300+*celcius (saw it on my own eyes) ,can't even find on any website.

 

[vr2turbo]

I saw before louis motor oil in taiwan, don't know where it made from. but it can burn up till 300+*celcius (saw it on my own eyes) ,can't even find on any website.

You can test. Pour some oil on metal plate and put over the fire. I tested mineral vs FS oil before. Mineral will boil and dry up, the FS will keep boiling....

 

[Izso]

:hmpf:

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/features/384644-simplified-guide-to-engine-oils.html

If it's API certified they have a certain guideline to follow. "Exceeding API certification" does not equate to certification.

The only oil I've seen so far that wasn't API certified earlier was Torco. They are now though.

API EOLCS

Even Repsol is certified. That basically means they can modify the blend to a certain extend but not until it fails certification la. API is quite stringent in their tests and additional TUV + ACEA certification makes it that much more credible.

Personally - I think you should just buy oils based on your wallet. If you can afford the better ones like Motul, Redline, Amsoil and all those lovel Ester based oils, then go for it. If not the cheaper and cheerful Pennzoil fully synthetic is good and cheap. If even that is too expensive the cheap and cheerful Adnoc/Petronas/Honda/etc semi syns are pretty good already. Try the different brands on your car until you find one that makes it work well for you then stick with it lor.

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Hi Guys & Gals,

Was ask by some to inform when there is any sales.
Well, the UMW warehouse sales is back from 29/11/2012 to 01/12/2012

Pennzoil and Repsol oil on sale.....

Where is the UMW Warehouse taiko?

Btw, is the price that much cheaper than outside? I mean, for me to travel to Shah Alam / Klang / etc is pointless if the savings isn't that good. I think I asked you this before but my memory is fading with my age. LOL (not taking a swipe at you. I know you're older! Hehe)

 

[vr2turbo]

:hmpf:

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/features/384644-simplified-guide-to-engine-oils.html

If it's API certified they have a certain guideline to follow. "Exceeding API certification" does not equate to certification.

The only oil I've seen so far that wasn't API certified earlier was Torco. They are now though.

API EOLCS

Even Repsol is certified. That basically means they can modify the blend to a certain extend but not until it fails certification la. API is quite stringent in their tests and additional TUV + ACEA certification makes it that much more credible.

Personally - I think you should just buy oils based on your wallet. If you can afford the better ones like Motul, Redline, Amsoil and all those lovel Ester based oils, then go for it. If not the cheaper and cheerful Pennzoil fully synthetic is good and cheap. If even that is too expensive the cheap and cheerful Adnoc/Petronas/Honda/etc semi syns are pretty good already. Try the different brands on your car until you find one that makes it work well for you then stick with it lor.

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Where is the UMW Warehouse taiko?

Btw, is the price that much cheaper than outside? I mean, for me to travel to Shah Alam / Klang / etc is pointless if the savings isn't that good. I think I asked you this before but my memory is fading with my age. LOL (not taking a swipe at you. I know you're older! Hehe)

That is why I mention if drive Godzilla or Porsche, sure Torco and Redline will be used. My old NA use SS oil only. Turbo also using cheaper FS only that I do earlier OIC.

Where from brother? The oil as far as I know is cheaper all this while especially the Multi vehicle ATF.
Of course if buy more, then savings, if you come from far.

Try google map to this....
3.059439,101.52311

 

[ixeo]

:hmpf:

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/features/384644-simplified-guide-to-engine-oils.html

If it's API certified they have a certain guideline to follow. "Exceeding API certification" does not equate to certification.

The only oil I've seen so far that wasn't API certified earlier was Torco. They are now though.

API EOLCS

Even Repsol is certified. That basically means they can modify the blend to a certain extend but not until it fails certification la. API is quite stringent in their tests and additional TUV + ACEA certification makes it that much more credible.

Personally - I think you should just buy oils based on your wallet. If you can afford the better ones like Motul, Redline, Amsoil and all those lovel Ester based oils, then go for it. If not the cheaper and cheerful Pennzoil fully synthetic is good and cheap. If even that is too expensive the cheap and cheerful Adnoc/Petronas/Honda/etc semi syns are pretty good already. Try the different brands on your car until you find one that makes it work well for you then stick with it lor.

Sadly its not that clear cut. You see, when you apply for API, they test your oil. So for example we take Pennzoil

API EOLCS | Brand Search Results

BUT, in Malaysia when you buy, say for example Pennzoil Platinum, it is NOT packed by Pennzoil. It is packed by UMW.

Which begs the questions:
Did Pennzoil BY UMW pass API?
Don't know.

Is Pennzoil by UMW same as Pennzoil USA?
Don't know.

Why is Pennzoil represented in UMW in Malaysia and not Shell Malaysia (the owners of Pennzoil), did UMW license the Pennzoil brand?
Don't know.

I personally rather NOT take the risk. Buying Petronas is a better choice at least I know who exactly is making the engine oil.
API EOLCS | Brand Search Results

 

[Izso]

Sadly its not that clear cut. You see, when you apply for API, they test your oil. So for example we take Pennzoil

API EOLCS | Brand Search Results

BUT, in Malaysia when you buy, say for example Pennzoil Platinum, it is NOT packed by Pennzoil. It is packed by UMW.

Which begs the questions:
Did Pennzoil BY UMW pass API?
Don't know.

Is Pennzoil by UMW same as Pennzoil USA?
Don't know.

Why is Pennzoil represented in UMW in Malaysia and not Shell Malaysia (the owners of Pennzoil), did UMW license the Pennzoil brand?
Don't know.

I personally rather NOT take the risk. Buying Petronas is a better choice at least I know who exactly is making the engine oil.
API EOLCS | Brand Search Results

Well... that's true to an extent. :hmmmm:

But monetary wise - it's only dollar sense to just repack and jackup the price after pushing the supplier for the best possible price (large stock intake). Who in their right mind would hire people to reblend? Not to mention propietary formulation is not that easily sold or shared.

Oh well, no one can really tell. But since I work for Exxon, I can tell you Esso/Mobil oils in m'sia are reblended to suite the weather. But they aren't rebranded or repackaged for selling, they were sold under the same company name which invested a lot in R&D. But that now all belongs to Petron now so lets see how that works out.

 

[ixeo]

Well... that's true to an extent. :hmmmm:

But monetary wise - it's only dollar sense to just repack and jackup the price after pushing the supplier for the best possible price (large stock intake). Who in their right mind would hire people to reblend? Not to mention propietary formulation is not that easily sold or shared.

Oh well, no one can really tell. But since I work for Exxon, I can tell you Esso/Mobil oils in m'sia are reblended to suite the weather. But they aren't rebranded or repackaged for selling, they were sold under the same company name which invested a lot in R&D. But that now all belongs to Petron now so lets see how that works out.

The moment its re-blended, the API certification won't apply, unless it was sent for certification again.

IF what you said is true, that XOM re-blends the Malaysia oil, then it DOES NOT MEET API. Why?
API EOLCS | Brand Search Results

Example, EMG MARKETING GODO KAISHA is the one selling Mobil 1 in JAPAN in metal cans, different from USA. And here you see they applied and gotten their API certification for re-packed Mobil 1. I can only guess that it is a different blend as well.