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The rust if u notice on d roof or bonnet/hood follows d 'tulang'..x amount of grinding or stripping work can eliminate it once it appears...u can prolong it for a while (mine lasted 6yrs) before it pops up again...only solution is unfortunately to replace d respective panels..
I suspect the rust is caused by the unsuitable use of glue/insulation in the steel panel. or Something like that...
 

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If rust appears on body area where the parts are non removable, what can be done to it? And is rust problem related to paint job quality?



My front hood last time already got multiple rust until can see tiny holes where light can actually go through. Replaced the whole hood at the end. Your Wira is on what year? Carb or EFI?
hahahah, then this is a good "excuse" to replace it with a CF bonnet.....Surely wont rust anymore
 

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hahahah, then this is a good "excuse" to replace it with a CF bonnet.....Surely wont rust anymore
Thought before of changing to CF hood and fender some time in future. But sifu VR2 say better use the $ to mod and Izssuark said if I do so on Wira, sure going to be thief magnet. Unless I paint them back according to car colour.
 

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Not sure if anyone have seen this thread bmw e30. Very long progress. I would say this is the best because the owner really put efforts into each of every bits. If you don't have id, please right click and open new tab for every page navigation.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forums/forum/the-bmw-range/-3-series/e30/28282-once-in-a-lifetime-project



Bro fazidk, base on your exp, what you think of the body and paint work?
wow.. thats really a full restoration... lots of sweat and tears put into that car
 

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If rust appears on body area where the parts are non removable, what can be done to it? And is rust problem related to paint job quality?



My front hood last time already got multiple rust until can see tiny holes where light can actually go through. Replaced the whole hood at the end. Your Wira is on what year? Carb or EFI?
The roof needs to be cut and replace, many have done that.
Yup, like bro fazidk and ken yeang mentioned is the glue to hold the sheet to the frame (tulang). Either corrosive or what those are the points they are rusting from.

Mine 1st Gen 1993 Carb, bought from mechanic brother 2nd hand. The thing is most rust after 3 to 4 years. Mine rust started after 8 years....:banghead:
 

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The roof needs to be cut and replace, many have done that.
Yup, like bro fazidk and ken yeang mentioned is the glue to hold the sheet to the frame (tulang). Either corrosive or what those are the points they are rusting from.

Mine 1st Gen 1993 Carb, bought from mechanic brother 2nd hand. The thing is most rust after 3 to 4 years. Mine rust started after 8 years....:banghead:
rust... this is one thing that i will have to fight..... urgh sounds like theres gona be quite abit of work ahead of me~~
 

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To me, car rust is already like a car skin cancer. If any of my cars start to show rust thru the paint, I'd just patch it up then sell it off, but so far that has never happened to me yet even for my old Mitsubishis back then (1996 Lancer & 1993 Eterna, both sold off in 2007).
 

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The roof needs to be cut and replace, many have done that.
Yup, like bro fazidk and ken yeang mentioned is the glue to hold the sheet to the frame (tulang). Either corrosive or what those are the points they are rusting from.

Mine 1st Gen 1993 Carb, bought from mechanic brother 2nd hand. The thing is most rust after 3 to 4 years. Mine rust started after 8 years....:banghead:
Wira roof I think can be removed. Can see it is not joined with the whole body like old Saga. I have also seen Evo 3 roof for sale. So, if the glue is problematic, need to peel all of them off and use a better glue next time?

1993 Wira is the one without facelift yet isn't it? The one with rear light that is very similar with your Galant.

rust... this is one thing that i will have to fight..... urgh sounds like theres gona be quite abit of work ahead of me~~
I'll try and solve it too. Feels reluctant to sell of my car. Bought it brand new back in 1999. That time I was still in kindergarten. Today, I am driving the car. A lot of memories.
 

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Depending on where n how extensive d rust is..eg. If on roof = replace roof,if on bonnet = replace bonnet,if doors = just replace d 'kulit'..these are d common areas of rust (at least on a Wira/satria..)

In my experience in spraying I've only done one car back in '06 (an escort mk3...x remember what year maybe 80's so u can just imagine d rust)..this one owner asked for full restoration..so had d whole body fully sandblasted til bare metal..cut out all d rust parts n either replaced them or custom made them (like d floor,firewall)..cost a bomb but I'm x sure it was worth it or x (I mean it's an old but rare car n all but d cost was very high)..anyway it made my work easy since I had a totally empty shell to work on so prep work was easy..

Anyway that was m one n only experience doing it all d way like that...it was a gr8 experience..now that I think of it I felt like those guys in Kount Kustomz (on Astro) hahaha lol
 
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Wira roof I think can be removed. Can see it is not joined with the whole body like old Saga. I have also seen Evo 3 roof for sale. So, if the glue is problematic, need to peel all of them off and use a better glue next time?

1993 Wira is the one without facelift yet isn't it? The one with rear light that is very similar with your Galant.



I'll try and solve it too. Feels reluctant to sell of my car. Bought it brand new back in 1999. That time I was still in kindergarten. Today, I am driving the car. A lot of memories.
Seen many doing it, but have to cut the roof out
 

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Depending on where n how extensive d rust is..eg. If on roof = replace roof,if on bonnet = replace bonnet,if doors = just replace d 'kulit'..these are d common areas of rust (at least on a Wira/satria..)

In my experience in spraying I've only done one car back in '06 (an escort mk3...x remember what year maybe 80's so u can just imagine d rust)..this one owner asked for full restoration..so had d whole body fully sandblasted til bare metal..cut out all d rust parts n either replaced them or custom made them (like d floor,firewall)..cost a bomb but I'm x sure it was worth it or x (I mean it's an old but rare car n all but d cost was very high)..anyway it made my work easy since I had a totally empty shell to work on so prep work was easy..

Anyway that was m one n only experience doing it all d way like that...it was a gr8 experience..now that I think of it I felt like those guys in Kount Kustomz (on Astro) hahaha lol
And must have taken a long time to do......
 

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Depending on where n how extensive d rust is..eg. If on roof = replace roof,if on bonnet = replace bonnet,if doors = just replace d 'kulit'..these are d common areas of rust (at least on a Wira/satria..)

In my experience in spraying I've only done one car back in '06 (an escort mk3...x remember what year maybe 80's so u can just imagine d rust)..this one owner asked for full restoration..so had d whole body fully sandblasted til bare metal..cut out all d rust parts n either replaced them or custom made them (like d floor,firewall)..cost a bomb but I'm x sure it was worth it or x (I mean it's an old but rare car n all but d cost was very high)..anyway it made my work easy since I had a totally empty shell to work on so prep work was easy..

Anyway that was m one n only experience doing it all d way like that...it was a gr8 experience..now that I think of it I felt like those guys in Kount Kustomz (on Astro) hahaha lol
How much did that restoration cost? 20k to 30k? Since is back in 06 and today is 2016 which is already 10 years, did you hear anything again about the car now? I was sort of interested in some old cars like the 1970s TA22 Celica. Want to know more info about these restoration process and outcome.
 

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How much did that restoration cost? 20k to 30k? Since is back in 06 and today is 2016 which is already 10 years, did you hear anything again about the car now? I was sort of interested in some old cars like the 1970s TA22 Celica. Want to know more info about these restoration process and outcome.
D project took me about 41/2 months (3 ppl working on it at that time)..I did meet d owner a couple of yrs back tho n he stil had d car (tho he x driving it at d time)..he got a job in d uk or somewhere n he brought his car so I x get to c it...regarding d cost just d sandblasting cost 11k (donno bout now), d metal works n d painting process another 9k..like I said it was a very costly n time consuming project (x to mention I had to travel back n forth to gombak..my workshop was there before) but it was a gr8 one n only experience..
 

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Back in those days sandblasting was unheard off maybe 1-2 shops actually did it that's y d cost was very high..maybe now cld be lower s I've heard more places offer those services??i know there's one somewhere in kg subang that does this service...
 

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How much did that restoration cost? 20k to 30k? Since is back in 06 and today is 2016 which is already 10 years, did you hear anything again about the car now? I was sort of interested in some old cars like the 1970s TA22 Celica. Want to know more info about these restoration process and outcome.
Must go find Overhaulin already......hhahahhahaha:biggrin:
 

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Must go find Overhaulin already......hhahahhahaha:biggrin:
Use to have something here like that rite??i remember it was on tv (done by proton if x mistaken) but it x kick off that well which is sad actually..lack of sponsors wld b d main reason I suppose..
 

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Use to have something here like that rite??i remember it was on tv (done by proton if x mistaken) but it x kick off that well which is sad actually..lack of sponsors wld b d main reason I suppose..
Yup, saw a bit before but way off. Unlike the US version many things can be changed. Here they need to remove the rust and use back. Workmanship was bad and they could not finish in time if not mistaken.....:smokin:
 

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D project took me about 41/2 months (3 ppl working on it at that time)..I did meet d owner a couple of yrs back tho n he stil had d car (tho he x driving it at d time)..he got a job in d uk or somewhere n he brought his car so I x get to c it...regarding d cost just d sandblasting cost 11k (donno bout now), d metal works n d painting process another 9k..like I said it was a very costly n time consuming project (x to mention I had to travel back n forth to gombak..my workshop was there before) but it was a gr8 one n only experience..
That is quite a lot. If the rust problem can be prevented for another 10 to 20 years, that amount spent seems worth it. But if it doesn't last for more than 5 years, then it sounds very costly. Now I think restoring an old car is indeed expensive.
 

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That is quite a lot. If the rust problem can be prevented for another 10 to 20 years, that amount spent seems worth it. But if it doesn't last for more than 5 years, then it sounds very costly. Now I think restoring an old car is indeed expensive.
Yes bro the thug is if u get s car sandblasted n weld/replace d effected panels then it wld definitely last like new..but it comes at a high price x doubt bout it
 

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playing old skool cars aren't exactly cheap, or those faint-hearts. For instance, classic celica prices are skyrocketting to 40 to 70k these days. Depending on the restored condition, or how ori the car is.

I just saw a TA22 car sold, with other goodies at mudah, asking for 30k if not mistaken. So, if everything fixed up, expect it to be hovering at 50k mark.
 

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Meaning Only do it if u have dough bro..that's y if u notice countries like d US in particular they spend shit loads on old rides...but d result is way better then new cars...
 

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Yes bro the thug is if u get s car sandblasted n weld/replace d effected panels then it wld definitely last like new..but it comes at a high price x doubt bout it
High price is worth it if the car will be kept by the owner for long. If kept for a short time and reselling it again, then that is worth it for the new owner. :rofl:

playing old skool cars aren't exactly cheap, or those faint-hearts. For instance, classic celica prices are skyrocketting to 40 to 70k these days. Depending on the restored condition, or how ori the car is.

I just saw a TA22 car sold, with other goodies at mudah, asking for 30k if not mistaken. So, if everything fixed up, expect it to be hovering at 50k mark.
Need to be cautious as well when buying restored cars. You won't know what parts and stuffs that the current owner spent on the car. It will be a nightmare if the owner decided to cut cost on restoring the bodywork and problems from inside start to arise 1 or 2 years later after buying the car.
 

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Bro..I run a paint shop in Sri kembangan n honestly there is no such thing as cheap but good quality..reason being in paint different choice of materials used means different costs..low/in house brand material means low costs whereas if u choose branded n already renowned/proven means a more higher costs..eg. u can get a 1k job but after some time d paint faulty OR a 2k job n d paint lasts at least 5 yrs...apart from that it depends on d condition of ur car..more work (rust job,body knocking etc) means more costs..n so on n so forth..
Thank you very much for the response bro. I definitely understand that but as a consumer, we are looking for good quality with reasonable price. That is the aim.
FYI, my car is Chevrolet Optra 1.6A gold color. Its already 11 years old and it had so many sentimental value (memories) with family and I wish to keep it good. I would like to re-paint the car and using all the coating system. I was looking for little bit dark brown to replace the gold color.
May you provide your estimate quote for outside painting and outsite/inside painting. You may email me directly to hasnish@yahoo.co.uk.

Very much Thanks bro
 

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Meaning Only do it if u have dough bro..that's y if u notice countries like d US in particular they spend shit loads on old rides...but d result is way better then new cars...
Looking at Overhaulin, in US many parts can be bought outright and fitted plug and play for many types of old cars, but not here....:rolleyes:
 

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sob so.. read about tust, i lagi takut now.... i takut, under the skin, there might be some rust here and there..... so far, the body shop near my house says, if ada pun, cant tell yet cause it isnt really showing on my car
 

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sob so.. read about tust, i lagi takut now.... i takut, under the skin, there might be some rust here and there..... so far, the body shop near my house says, if ada pun, cant tell yet cause it isnt really showing on my car
Yes unfortunately it's true...unless u have d car sandblasted there's (almost) x indication at all...sad but true
 

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yeah but then it be too late to do anything...can try but no guarantees :(
 

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I recall seeing this laser rust/paint remover tool that zaps paint and rust off very quickly. I wonder if that laser will reach KL anytime soon. Then sandblasting would be a thing of the past and rust removal would be super fast.
 

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huhuhu i cry when hearing all this..... sob sob.... pray to god, no issues with mine~~ :saint:
 

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I recall seeing this laser rust/paint remover tool that zaps paint and rust off very quickly. I wonder if that laser will reach KL anytime soon. Then sandblasting would be a thing of the past and rust removal would be super fast.
N x to mention super expensive...
 

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If some ppl think that sandblasting oredi expensive, then laser treatment will be out of the question....
 

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bro fazidk..u run a paint shop??...can quote me price to paint my mvi? :P
 

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Sandblasting machine oredi cost a bomb imagine a new tech like this!!i bet it's worth a new 7-series beemer..
 

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Baru start d biz have to shut down oredi coz installment too high n x cope haha
 

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Sandblasting machine oredi cost a bomb imagine a new tech like this!!i bet it's worth a new 7-series beemer..
YEah...start small and steady, as they say.
Use sandblasting machine first, then if got money. ada rezeki and strong demand from customer....then might consider buying the laser blaster.
 

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Baru start d biz have to shut down oredi coz installment too high n x cope haha
Off topic a bit. Like my friend tyre shop, just buy balancing machine and tyre mounting machine which are really needed in tyre business already cost a bomb. China made cannot last so need to buy more expensive machine and then balancing and mounting cannot charge customer because it comes free with tyre purchase. If buy alignment machine some more, really the installments will be hard to cover.....lol:biggrin:
 

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YEah...start small and steady, as they say.
Use sandblasting machine first, then if got money. ada rezeki and strong demand from customer....then might consider buying the laser blaster.
Use angle grinder and brass brush wheel is cheapest.....hhahhahahhahahhaha:biggrin:
 

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Use angle grinder and brass brush wheel is cheapest.....hhahhahahhahahhaha:biggrin:
U be surprised bro..it's definitely x d cheapest or d easiest thing to do...so time consuming n tho d items r 'cheap' d labour will be expensive...u also have to take note that if u use angle grinder n brass brush u will be leaving a lot of massive 'scars' n prepping them is x easy nor cheap...
 

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U be surprised bro..it's definitely x d cheapest or d easiest thing to do...so time consuming n tho d items r 'cheap' d labour will be expensive...u also have to take note that if u use angle grinder n brass brush u will be leaving a lot of massive 'scars' n prepping them is x easy nor cheap...
Cheapest for machine only, workmanship not counted......hahhahahhahah:rofl:
 

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cause my car is 20 years old..... paint has already 'died'

**ooops reply to a deleted comment** izso very efficient
 

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If d cost of coating is,say 3k,Honestly if it was me I rather respray d car...for that amount u be able to do a color change :)
 
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If d cost of coating is,say 3k,Honestly if it was me I rather respray d car...for that amount u be able to do a color change :)
wow that's pretty expensive coating, repainting your car won't look as great as the original, you should always protect your car's original car paint! :)
 

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actually i might disagree with that..... sometimes, the aftermarket paint job can be beautiful.... i jelly looking at all those cars with flake in em..... i myself do want to add flake to my paint job but.... need to see if it can be maintained and if my car body is good enough to warrant such a paint job, faidik, is it hard to match a panel with such a paint job (assuming one wants to change panels or potong lobangs next time)