My suspension dilemma

[beatnik]

'Comfort' or the 'level of acceptable comfort' can be subjective.

Comfort is not subjective but Tolerance is.

Actually many people will agree when a suspension is comfortable or not. It's just the acceptance level is different because there are people who can tolerate uncomfortable drive and there are people who can't tolerate crap at all. I just hate the fact that there are people who blatantly claim a suspension is comfortable while it is actually not.

also, if a particular suspension brand works on a particular car, doesn't mean it can be good on other cars as well.

gbsaint, it is best if you can try before you buy. if you don't you'll end up buying new adjustable every time you're not satisfied.

 

[gbsaint]

Tq for all the feedback.

Answering some questions,

1) my coilovers is ISC brand, initially came with 8k front and 6k rear springs. Changed to 6k front and 4k rear. The bounciness did improve but still there.

2)Yes the coilovers does come with bodyshift, where u can adjust the ride height by changing the bottom end of the coilovers and not compressing the spring.

3)went to tt and tried other setup, but when i tried it was in town roads not on highway. And definitely not on the cyberjaya-putrajaya-puchong highway :D

Another issue with my coilovers is that it is used for 10 months when i brought it.

Do you guys think that maybe sending it for servicing will help??

 

[vr2turbo]

Tq for all the feedback.

Answering some questions,

1) my coilovers is ISC brand, initially came with 8k front and 6k rear springs. Changed to 6k front and 4k rear. The bounciness did improve but still there.

2)Yes the coilovers does come with bodyshift, where u can adjust the ride height by changing the bottom end of the coilovers and not compressing the spring.

3)went to tt and tried other setup, but when i tried it was in town roads not on highway. And definitely not on the cyberjaya-putrajaya-puchong highway :D

Another issue with my coilovers is that it is used for 10 months when i brought it.

Do you guys think that maybe sending it for servicing will help??

No damping adjustment? If have, adjust softer.

Normally send for service if gone soft, leak or jam. I don't think 10 months would have failed so fast?

 

[parakey]

Normally send for service if gone soft, leak or jam. I don't think 10 months would have failed so fast?

+1. Agreed

 

[gbsaint]

That why. So far absorber no leaking. Even when i changed the springs at ah sim (PRS) he also said absorber still okay, no leaking.

 

[parakey]

1 Changed to 6k front and 4k rear. The bounciness did improve but still there.

Did you ever find out what the spring rates for your stock suspension was? I suspect you need to down-rate your springs to approx 4Fr/3Rr to be anywhere near stock levels.

 

[gbsaint]

4k 3k would cause bottoming out. Beside don't get me wrong i like stiffer suspension. The bumpy feeling is causing performance issues as u could not keep the throttle planted when its bouncy.

On side note,
Was researching a bit and i saw F TUNED do service + REVALVE for coilovers. Price also not too bad.

Wonder if revalving the coilovers will help.

Anyone ever sent their coilovers to repair to them. Seem like a good and reputable company.

 

[parakey]

4k 3k would cause bottoming out.

That may be unlikely since your stock spring rates are below those values.

I do not have the exact values for Inspira but here's some info which you may use as reference > Spring Rate Chart for Evo X - evolutionm.net

Inspira is way lighter than an Evo. So we may expect stock rates to be lower than the Evo's

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Anyone ever sent their coilovers to repair to them. Seem like a good and reputable company.

When I was at their office the other day, I saw a set of RCS coilovers that was serviced.

 

[gbsaint]

Bro parakey, your using f tuned or have any experience with them??

 

[parakey]

My wira has their GT Series road-touge package which includes HLSH front inverted monotubes (8K) + rear monotube (4K).

First time user of coilovers. So until such time I am familiar enough, I will refrain commenting about their performance. Some of the guys at our recent TT did drive it a bit. I believe their opinions will be more reliable. They may chip in if they have anything to add.

 

[gbsaint]

I see. But how did u feel the ride. Front 8k mcm quite stiff, tp if they recommend then it must be the best setup.

How do u feel the ride?? Is it harsh?? Bouncy or not on uneven tarmac.

 

[vr2turbo]

I see. But how did u feel the ride. Front 8k mcm quite stiff, tp if they recommend then it must be the best setup.

How do u feel the ride?? Is it harsh?? Bouncy or not on uneven tarmac.

Lowered and harden suspension best for track where there are no speed bumps, pot holes etc., For every day use best is to set mid or soft if butt is sensitive. If have damping adjustment then set hard when go touge....

 

[parakey]

I see. But how did u feel the ride. Front 8k mcm quite stiff, tp if they recommend then it must be the best setup. How do u feel the ride?? Is it harsh?? Bouncy or not on uneven tarmac.

Hmm ... if you want, you can look me up in Cheras. I don't mind letting you compare how "bouncy" it is. He He .. you show me yours, I show you mine

 

[gbsaint]

Haha. That is not such a bad idea. U cheras which area?? Cheras area damn big one.

 

[parakey]

Haha. That is not such a bad idea. U cheras which area?? Cheras area damn big one.

https://www.google.com.my/maps/@3.0...m4!1e1!3m2!1sQ4xj0SCGCIf02NCR7F6wug!2e0?hl=en

This was where we had the last tt. Nearby Bandar Tun Hussein Onn and Cheras Selatan

 

[Izso]

3)went to tt and tried other setup, but when i tried it was in town roads not on highway. And definitely not on the cyberjaya-putrajaya-puchong highway :D

Then when you try suspension you probably should ask to try on highway roads.

Another issue with my coilovers is that it is used for 10 months when i brought it.

Do you guys think that maybe sending it for servicing will help??

Was researching a bit and i saw F TUNED do service + REVALVE for coilovers. Price also not too bad.

Wonder if revalving the coilovers will help.

You probably answered your own question la. And 10 months is way too early to need servicing. Revalving to cater for your needs is probably a good way to go since they can revalve based on your requirements, however the trick is to get it just right. Otherwise you might need to pay to revalve a few times since it takes time for the dampers to settle in after a revalve. Or just swap to a HLSH then mess with the damper adjustments paired with your springs.

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My wira has their GT Series road-touge package which includes HLSH front inverted monotubes (8K) + rear monotube (4K).

First time user of coilovers. So until such time I am familiar enough, I will refrain commenting about their performance. Some of the guys at our recent TT did drive it a bit. I believe their opinions will be more reliable. They may chip in if they have anything to add.

For anyone who is interested, I'm an ex-user of the HLSH Improve Hyperflex II and the HL superflex Improve, the Ftuned GT that Parakey is using is very similar to the Improve Hyperflex II except it's more comfortable. Firm but not unbearably bouncy. Planted when throwing into corners and absorbs speed bumps and all like the normal suspension except you're going a lot faster. I like the ftuned suspension. The fact that they are self adjustable is a plus but the location of the damper adjustor for the rear is just a bit out of the way to access. The Improve Hyperflex suspension has the adjustor at the top. But then again that's not convenient for sedan owners, mine was an aeroback so just remove the rear speaker cover and I can adjust the suspension already.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Was thinking if go for ftuned whether they can actually do one where like what Chew said, can adjust to soft, mid or hard. That way when going out with family, just set it soft. If going for any touge will set mid or hard. or when I'm driving alone can go mid.

Having too stiff, aint gonna be the right family ride anymore.

 

[vr2turbo]

Was thinking if go for ftuned whether they can actually do one where like what Chew said, can adjust to soft, mid or hard. That way when going out with family, just set it soft. If going for any touge will set mid or hard. or when I'm driving alone can go mid.

Having too stiff, aint gonna be the right family ride anymore.

But like what bro. Izso mentioned, the front are easy to do, open bonnet they are there. Not sure about your "jetta" rears, but my VR have to remove rear seats to get to the adjustments which is behind the rear seats...

 

[parakey]

Was thinking if go for ftuned whether they can actually do one where like what Chew said, can adjust to soft, mid or hard.

Please note that inverted monotube's settings knob is located below. They said there were 20 clicks but when I counted, it was 23 clicks on all 4 shocks.

 

[vr2turbo]

Please note that inverted monotube's settings knob is located below. They said there were 20 clicks but when I counted, it was 23 clicks on all 4 shocks.

So all adjustment in wheel fender....