Help with new absorber and spring hitting fender

[boygenetic]

Dear all,

I just picked up my NCP42 few days ago and the tires kept hitting the fender.
the parts that were installed for the entire suspension were:

1. APM Performax Absorber
2. APM Performax Spring
3. 250mm spacer
4. Front lower arm
5. KYB front absorber bush
6. KYB Front Absorber Mounting
7. SILICONE SATAY BUSH

its driving me crazy. its lowered and the stance is nice but hitting the fender each time is stupidly driving me nuts.

the cheapest solution
1. install spring buffer
2. install back the stock spring
3. Change to lower profile tires (do not wish to do this as i just changed 2 months ago)

any advice is much appreciated.

 

[vr2turbo]

Dear all,

I just picked up my NCP42 few days ago and the tires kept hitting the fender.
the parts that were installed for the entire suspension were:

1. APM Performax Absorber
2. APM Performax Spring
3. 250mm spacer
4. Front lower arm
5. KYB front absorber bush
6. KYB Front Absorber Mounting
7. SILICONE SATAY BUSH

its driving me crazy. its lowered and the stance is nice but hitting the fender each time is stupidly driving me nuts.

the cheapest solution
1. install spring buffer
2. install back the stock spring
3. Change to lower profile tires (do not wish to do this as i just changed 2 months ago)

any advice is much appreciated.

3. 250mm spacer.... Is it 25mm? Cannot be 250mm

I think nothing wrong with other parts, could be because of your spacer. 25mm can bring your wheels pretty far out from the wheel well, that is why it is hitting the fender

 

[boygenetic]

3. 250mm spacer.... Is it 25mm? Cannot be 250mm

I think nothing wrong with other parts, could be because of your spacer. 25mm can bring your wheels pretty far out from the wheel well, that is why it is hitting the fender

Me think so also because everything are made for the NCP42, except the spacer.

I really hope your theory is correct because I've been reading around and found 'wheel offset' is one of the reason it's hitting the fender.

Since I'm in Klang valley, I'll get the spring buffer just in case and will remove the spacer when I back to my mechanic in hometown this Friday.

Sorry, it's 25mm (1 inch) spacer.

Thank you again.

Other feedback is much appreciated.

 

[vr2turbo]

Me think so also because everything are made for the NCP42, except the spacer.

I really hope your theory is correct because I've been reading around and found 'wheel offset' is one of the reason it's hitting the fender.

Since I'm in Klang valley, I'll get the spring buffer just in case and will remove the spacer when I back to my mechanic in hometown this Friday.

Sorry, it's 25mm (1 inch) spacer.

Thank you again.

Other feedback is much appreciated.

I think you remove the spacer first, then if all okay no need the buffer.....

 

[6UE5t]

Me think so also because everything are made for the NCP42, except the spacer.

I really hope your theory is correct because I've been reading around and found 'wheel offset' is one of the reason it's hitting the fender.

Since I'm in Klang valley, I'll get the spring buffer just in case and will remove the spacer when I back to my mechanic in hometown this Friday.

Sorry, it's 25mm (1 inch) spacer.

Thank you again.

Other feedback is much appreciated.

Don't use the buffer la, it will change your spring behavior (the rate). Just remove your spacers first, that's the most suspicious and actually useless item in your list! You only use spacers as work around if your rims are the wrong size/offsets and/or you already use big brake kit but the existing rims don't have enough clearance for the calipers. If one use the right rims and tire, then there's never a need to use spacers at all and is an unnecessary added weight.

 

[vr2turbo]

Don't use the buffer la, it will change your spring behavior (the rate). Just remove your spacers first, that's the most suspicious and actually useless item in your list! You only use spacers as work around if your rims are the wrong size/offsets and/or you already use big brake kit but the existing rims don't have enough clearance for the calipers. If one use the right rims and tire, then there's never a need to use spacers at all and is an unnecessary added weight.

Ricer, as he mentioned the stance is nice but does not help since hitting fender. Anyway 25mm is really too much....

 

[Izso]

APM performance absorber and spring are exceptionally low. You wanna go that low get a coilover la.

 

[ixeo]

My question is, wheel offset correct or not. Why need spacer if correct?

I would install back stock spring and call it a day. APM lowering springs are too low.

 

[parakey]

Spring buffer is just a bad idea.

 

[boygenetic]

taken out the spacer and tested for a week. there are no more rubbing.
as mentioned by everyone else, the abs and spring is extremely low. should have known this before purchasing. if the bumper is a bit high, it will hit my undercarriage. also, cant carry much cargo weight either.

the spacer did caused lots of issue.

thank you all again for the advice.


before

after

 

[vr2turbo]

If overall is too low, looks like changing back to original stock height suspension will be best.......

 

[parakey]

before

after

Your before and after looks exactly the same

 

[boygenetic]

If overall is too low, looks like changing back to original stock height suspension will be best.......

agreed but will keep this setup at the moment.
no worries, i have a SUV which i seldom use.
i prefer the vios because its so easy.

Your before and after looks exactly the same

mana ada. BEFORE it was lowered, the bumper was above the tumbler.
AFTER, the tumbler cant even fit under the bumper.

 

[parakey]

mana ada. BEFORE it was lowered, the bumper was above the tumbler.
AFTER, the tumbler cant even fit under the bumper.

Looks like this..

 

[boygenetic]

Looks like this..

View attachment 573397

u mean by the broken img? i too have some issue when viewing pic from phone.
but on PC/laptop, it was fine.

 

[parakey]

u mean by the broken img? i too have some issue when viewing pic from phone.
but on PC/laptop, it was fine.

On Desktop with Firefox, I see 2 identical images that looks like No Entry signs

 

[boygenetic]

On Desktop with Firefox, I see 2 identical images that looks like No Entry signs

how bout this

 

[parakey]

Wow, that's several inches of drop

 

[boygenetic]

Wow, that's several inches of drop

this is hows it looks like now. my initial paint job budget went to replace the suspension system.
paint job can wait.

looking into strut bar and rear subrame.
not sure if the rear subframe a gimmick but the Anti roll bar is hella expensive.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

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this is hows it looks like now. my initial paint job budget went to replace the suspension system.
paint job can wait.

looking into strut bar and rear subrame.
not sure if the rear subframe a gimmick but the Anti roll bar is hella expensive.

get the antirollbar FIRST!

strut bar and subframe bracing doesnt do much if to be honest....

ARB is more expensive due to its function

 

[vr2turbo]

Yah, lowered a lot.......

 

[sanekit]

add more camber, ketuk those fenders.

EDIT: Just noticed that TS on stock rims.

 

[gunnerzz]

get the antirollbar FIRST!

strut bar and subframe bracing doesnt do much if to be honest....

ARB is more expensive due to its function

Agreed on this.

Got extra budget get front upper strut bars. Vios are well known for its numb drive feeling. Having a more solid front end will transfer more feel to the steering.

 

[boygenetic]

get the antirollbar FIRST!

strut bar and subframe bracing doesnt do much if to be honest....

ARB is more expensive due to its function

any difference between ARB and subframe?

Subframe

https://scontent.fkul3-1.fna.fbcdn....=74c6026d40891b1ba77cced0a2db4079&oe=5CD0EA40

ARB

well, apparently, UR changed their design in their 2013 ARB to simulate subframe design
http://ultraracing.my/ecatalog/inde...y-bar-rear-stabilizer-bar-rear-anti-roll-bar/

 

[gunnerzz]

Look at the design, which one is more solid for its purpose?
its the ARB right.

Just imagine the right hand suspension is compressed, the ARB design is more efficient in doing the job. The subframe wont do much...like having a solid axle.

 

[vr2turbo]

ARB works better, it will try to stabilize the left and right side as either side goes up or down....

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

any difference between ARB and subframe?

Subframe

https://scontent.fkul3-1.fna.fbcdn....=74c6026d40891b1ba77cced0a2db4079&oe=5CD0EA40

View attachment 573407



ARB

View attachment 573408


well, apparently, UR changed their design in their 2013 ARB to simulate subframe design
http://ultraracing.my/ecatalog/inde...y-bar-rear-stabilizer-bar-rear-anti-roll-bar/

View attachment 573409

THOSE SUBFRAME IS PIECE OF SHIT very useless thing that only makes your car scrapping everything on the road...not even functional as anything... seriously...


its actually they mimicking proper antirollbar of UR instead...not other way around...


this is main function of antirollbar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-roll_bar

 

[Izso]

ARB is connected to the absorbers or wheel control arm usually right? The name itself "Anti roll bar" says a lot already.

That other thing is more of a torsion beam strengthener which is really no point.

 

[boygenetic]

PERFECT !!!! thank you all for the reassurance !
so...16mm or the 19 mm?
Also its RM450 for the 16mm (on average).........sien !

 

[parakey]

Cant really see the purpose of this