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Rekalo,
Wow... i understand your pain. Its very mafan when u need parts that are hard to find... coz' then ur car just sitting in the workshop doing nothing, and if u don't have a spare car to use, u can't go anywhere! Yours 4G61 n/a... really very rare woh... at least 4G61T can still use some VR4/EVO parts if anything goes wrong... if 61 n/a, VR4 n/a oso quite rare... i can imagine trying to find any spare parts for this car... =Þ

mell+amir,
Hahaha... good luck finding. I don't think its going to be easy to find... coz' seldom they'll sell saparate... so if they DO also it is definitely going to cost u!! Were u the one who called me the other day btw? =Þ Someone called me askin' bout evo mountings on 61T.... hahaha...
Using 4G15 g'box on a 61T.... wow... just a matter of time before it K.O. !! Don't think the gearbox can tahan that much torture man... better try get a GSR g'box or something. Ur 4G15 g'box oso probably had to skim the inside to fit the flywheel+clutch right?

Boss,

Any 4G6X series engine, no matter N/A or Turbo, spare parts are not that hard to find leh friend. if you are talking about engine wirings and ECU, yeah la that one like looking for a Virgin in SPA... :biggrin:

if anyone got problems looking for their spare parts, PM me. or if you have any inquiries about parts, their replacement parts, i think i can help you guys.

actually you can ask from the spare parts shop itself. you just have to bring one sample of your part and it makes life easier for you, the foreman and the spareparts dealer.

i have never encountered any problems getting any replacement parts for my 4G63 from piston rings to valve seals, everything lah. all from original mitsubishi dealer. if car parts, then sorry loh. engine parts, come look for me.

as for 1.5 gbox on 4G6X series, actually as mentioned 1000 times in the forum, it's the way how you maintain and shift your gearbox. i got a few fellas i know who is running 4WD locked gearbox also kondem even running standard setup. i personally running 4G15 gbox last year without any problems until i boosted up the engine spec.

so the problem is how you drive your car. any car, not only mitsubishi and proton in particular. take honda for example. if you shift hard for it's B series vtec gbox, the 3rd synchro always rosak. (i might be wrong because last time many customers come over to change 2nd and 3rd synchro so i made an assumption.. PLEASE TAKE NOTE AND CORRECT ME if this statement is wrong.)

do not worry about engine parts. worry about how you maintain your engine and making sure you got spares. always make a point to keep some spares for your baby, less hassles, less problems, less downtime for your car. :biggrin:

we should sit down in a quiet place and do a lecture over a :tee: ... :biggrin:
 

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used this 61T for 2 years,engine very tahan lasak but only 145bhp,but stock 61T can sapu stock mivec or 1.6 vtec in 400m although they quoted around 160ps over...61T halfcut very expensive nowdays...almost hit 4.5k liao...if want to play 61T,just buy the engine kosong then buy VR4RS halfcut then bore the block and put everything from VR4RS in...you will jimat roadtax and got the 240ps 61T under the hood,the GSR pun takut to try! :biggrin:

call me if you minat this set up 019-9550999,thanks! :biggrin:
 

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coz' 4G61T rebore to fit 85mm pistons, if i remember correctly is 1.7+ litre only.... how to get 240hp like that? Unless up boost kau kau laa.... =Þ
 

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alvin,

it can be done 1,malaysia boleh mar... :biggrin: my fren 260bhp GSR kena smoked by 61T saga in 400m before,almost 2 cars kena tapau!!! then we keep tracking that car history since we wont believe that the stock 61T can outrun the GSR...lastly d owner fren told us that his fren car block only 61T,all stuff all VR4RS+EVO...no wonder la... :biggrin:
 

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mell+amir,
Hahaha... good luck finding. I don't think its going to be easy to find... coz' seldom they'll sell saparate... so if they DO also it is definitely going to cost u!! Were u the one who called me the other day btw? =Þ Someone called me askin' bout evo mountings on 61T.... hahaha...
Using 4G15 g'box on a 61T.... wow... just a matter of time before it K.O. !! Don't think the gearbox can tahan that much torture man... better try get a GSR g'box or something. Ur 4G15 g'box oso probably had to skim the inside to fit the flywheel+clutch right?


yeah... it's me dude....anyway thanx a lot.. i've found someone who wanna sell that evo bracket mounting and it cost rm200 just for the bracket not incuding the mounting.. is it too expensive?? mine is 4g61T but using NA block hehe.. no turbo maa.. yes... need to skim...
also have 4g67 gearbox hehehe...but i think wanna sell la...
 

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I also been using my 1.3 gearbox , still runing till to day , its been 2.5 years attach to my 4G61 engine .

Not including it runing with the 4G13 engine , if overall its been 10 years already runing on the same gearbox without problems .

Before the gearbox can k.o , im sure the driveshaft or clutch will k.o first .
 

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keong_GSR,
260+hp GSR... wow.. this I gotta see for myself, so far the highest I've seen also is 240+ on wheels. =Þ Wonder whut extra mods this guy did? 260hp, should have upgraded internals right? GSR stock internals if my guess is right, can't take that much torture before the connecting pins break. But memang stock 61T is damn slow... modded, needless to say, any engine also will be fast maaa... hahaha.. depends on how much money u can throw into the car. =Þ Deeper pocket wins... if the 61T assuming running everything evo, and rebore to put evo pistons as well (1.7+ litre)... should give GSR a good whacking. =Þ hahaha... for all you know might keep up with a stock VR4... wouldn't be surprising.

mell_amir,
Ic ic... so means you're running n/a or turbo laa now? HAhaha... is it on a satria or wira liau ah? Forgot.. 200 bucks for the bracket huh? If i were u, take it loh.. less headache... of course, try asking a couple halfcut shops first lar, see if they have it and see what's the price... reason being these things are hard to come by.

vestax,
Wow... happening la ur 1.3 gearbox! Must be u damn 'sek che'... very the jaga and sayang ur car a lot... wahahaha... my friend using 1.6 gearbox on a VR4 oso KOed in a matter of months only... but then again, now come to think of it, i think a lotta VR4 kaki also still running on 1.3 gearbox! hahaha...
 

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alvin24 said:
coz' 4G61T rebore to fit 85mm pistons, if i remember correctly is 1.7+ litre only.... how to get 240hp like that? Unless up boost kau kau laa.... =Þ
Yaaaaaaaaaaa....Som ppl so called 4G61T, but inner parts all 1.8...who knows.

Miton, memang 4G63 still can get, 4G61 ???....Infact i heard n try 4G61 NA got 3 ECU models ( codes)....Mine 8739...i have try other Mirage NA...DAMN!!! only can start...cannot move 1 wo....it will jecking...but other stuff do no wther can play with 4G63 stuff, just got to know that can play with inner parts ( over size pistons....conrod...camshalv etc) do no la how far its true ?....

Miton, ur pomen done that b4 ?.....dude whers d HANGUS PINSTON LA ?
 

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alvin,

dont overlook the mighty GSR,stock already 190bhp... my fren 1 internal still stock except metal gasket! turbine from evo3,intercooler from VR4RS,piping custom made,port & polish,oil cooler,ecu upgrade from japan ( bought from fren in japan ) gearbox rojak with VR4,EVO...boost 1.5bar all the time for 3 years still no problem...he tried with evo3 stock with 1.2bar,the evo3 kena whack almost 1 1/2 car in 400m... best time 13.09s in 400m without slick tyre... :wink: but the saga with 61T beat him kau kau that day... :biggrin:
 

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if u want power from stock engine, dont go for 4G61. not powerful in standard form. even when modded, still not powerful...

cant beat gsr gangs...

all upgrading budget will be spent on repairs, at the end of the day, still not powerful.
 

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honestly speaking, it's not worth it la. unless u really really want it badly, or u got a good condition halfcut.

alternator, ecu, turbo, gearbox all will kong.

save more money, get evo or gsr.

if u cant afford evo or gsr, hehe surely u cant afford the maintenance of 4G61 when problem days come...
 

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alvin,

dont overlook the mighty GSR,stock already 190bhp... my fren 1 internal still stock except metal gasket! turbine from evo3,intercooler from VR4RS,piping custom made,port & polish,oil cooler,ecu upgrade from japan ( bought from fren in japan ) gearbox rojak with VR4,EVO...boost 1.5bar all the time for 3 years still no problem...he tried with evo3 stock with 1.2bar,the evo3 kena whack almost 1 1/2 car in 400m... best time 13.09s in 400m without slick tyre... :wink: but the saga with 61T beat him kau kau that day... :biggrin:
No offence... but i doubt that GSR can be anywhere near 13 secs for a 400m drag... reason being my friend entered Sepang drag with VR4, modded internals, overbored pistons, AR80 turbine, haltech.... amongst other stuffs unmentioned, also get 13 secs flat only laa... u expect me to believe that GSR can be anywhere near that?
Summore my friend got a professional driver to drive his car.
 

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alvin24 said:
mell_amir,
alvin24 said:
Ic ic... so means you're running n/a or turbo laa now? HAhaha... is it on a satria or wira liau ah? Forgot.. 200 bucks for the bracket huh? If i were u, take it loh.. less headache... of course, try asking a couple halfcut shops first lar, see if they have it and see what's the price... reason being these things are hard to come by.

running n/a block but in turbo spec la.. ecu, wiring, intake bla bla bla all form 4g61T. even piping turbo.. 2.5" hehehe NA block but FC like turbo....still pickup...tajulsans 4g91 also kena tapau...hehehe on wira maa.. last time i join ur TT near the extreme park but in a little while laa.. hehehe. tajulsans's friends laa
 
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ohh... ic ic... not sure if i remember u correctly.. maybe when see that time then can remember lar! Wahahaha... =Þ

Woosh.. ur car 4G61T obviously tajulsan's car u tapau la... the power of turbo maa... so how, the mountings? Installed already?
 

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alvin24 said:
No offence... but i doubt that GSR can be anywhere near 13 secs for a 400m drag... reason being my friend entered Sepang drag with VR4, modded internals, overbored pistons, AR80 turbine, haltech.... amongst other stuffs unmentioned, also get 13 secs flat only laa... u expect me to believe that GSR can be anywhere near that?
Summore my friend got a professional driver to drive his car.

Alvin san, it can be done.

a Proton Edar SC in gombak fielded in a daily driven wira with GSR+MIVEC for sepang drag this year. competed without any problems, still in half trim (meaning door panels and air cond still got) and clocked 12.5 for his personal best 3 months ago. stock internals, big turbo and management. i got a shock of my life when the times were up. Really have to respect that fella. :rock:

cant run away from spotting that car. it is always that shining, even the engine bay is SPOTLESS~! reminds me of Sleepwalker's era of car cleaniness... :biggrin:

REKALO :

sorry boss. this weekend i come up and give you my old hangus pistons. er..just sms me the no to my mobile : 016-9966833. hehehe sorry for the delay ah. :tongue:
 

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I didn't mean a GSR can't achieve that... i meant a GSR with the mentioned mods by keong_GSR... with only those mods alone, impossible can get that kinda time...
 

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alvin24 said:
I didn't mean a GSR can't achieve that... i meant a GSR with the mentioned mods by keong_GSR... with only those mods alone, impossible can get that kinda time...
Alvin,

Ur Satria absor is that fully adjustable ? sorry in wrong thread