Is P2 Axia a good buy?

[ericmaxman]

Good buy or goodbye is subject to your affordability, and purpose of the car.

I foresee those buying the Axia are those who already have a few cars at home, and just want something cheap to maintain (Oh wait, the Axia is designed to use 0W-20 FULL SYNTHETIC engine oil, for their EEV claims).

Or maybe for someone just for short drives. Like, town driving which does not require to drive on big highways. At least it's easy to park thanks to its front parking sensor (Advance only), Electronic Power Steering and small nimble size.

 

[ken yeang]

Newspaper report 15k booking dy....[/QUOTE]

Booking is one. Buying is another matter.
So long the deal is not sealed, then profit is still not made.

 

[cvkit17]

Good buy or goodbye is subject to your affordability, and purpose of the car.

I foresee those buying the Axia are those who already have a few cars at home, and just want something cheap to maintain (Oh wait, the Axia is designed to use 0W-20 FULL SYNTHETIC engine oil, for their EEV claims).

Or maybe for someone just for short drives. Like, town driving which does not require to drive on big highways. At least it's easy to park thanks to its front parking sensor (Advance only), Electronic Power Steering and small nimble size.

I personally do not think that P2 will use 0W-20 for Axia normal service. They will stick to their popular 5W-30 or 10W-30. Popular among perodua because they only have these 2 in most SC. So maybe Axia user will not easily get 21.6km/l as per claimed. But well, I get more milage in my perodua compared to their claimed fuel consumption. So I would say that 21.6km/l is still possible, under very good conditions like no traffic jam, more highway cruising at maybe 70-80kmh, good weather, etc.

Newspaper report 15k booking dy....

Booking is one. Buying is another matter.
So long the deal is not sealed, then profit is still not made.[/QUOTE]

Since they are targeting to sell 30k units this year, we will see. If they reach 30k by year end means they are making money. If they got beaten by Iriz, means they failed to impress

 

[ericmaxman]

I personally do not think that P2 will use 0W-20 for Axia normal service. They will stick to their popular 5W-30 or 10W-30. Popular among perodua because they only have these 2 in most SC. So maybe Axia user will not easily get 21.6km/l as per claimed. But well, I get more milage in my perodua compared to their claimed fuel consumption. So I would say that 21.6km/l is still possible, under very good conditions like no traffic jam, more highway cruising at maybe 70-80kmh, good weather, etc.



Booking is one. Buying is another matter.
So long the deal is not sealed, then profit is still not made.

Since they are targeting to sell 30k units this year, we will see. If they reach 30k by year end means they are making money. If they got beaten by Iriz, means they failed to impress

It is stated in the brochure that they are using 0W-20 for FC purposes. I would believe that when it comes to servicing, they'll stick back to the 0W-20 oils as well, unless the customer wants otherwise. The service booklet would also state that the optimum oil to be used would be the 0W-20 oil.

Sure you can use other oils in there, but P2 wont guarantee you can achieve the said FC claims la.

 

[vr2turbo]

It is stated in the brochure that they are using 0W-20 for FC purposes. I would believe that when it comes to servicing, they'll stick back to the 0W-20 oils as well, unless the customer wants otherwise. The service booklet would also state that the optimum oil to be used would be the 0W-20 oil.

Sure you can use other oils in there, but P2 wont guarantee you can achieve the said FC claims la.

Will be expensive oil change then......

 

[cvkit17]

It is stated in the brochure that they are using 0W-20 for FC purposes. I would believe that when it comes to servicing, they'll stick back to the 0W-20 oils as well, unless the customer wants otherwise. The service booklet would also state that the optimum oil to be used would be the 0W-20 oil.

Sure you can use other oils in there, but P2 wont guarantee you can achieve the said FC claims la.

Will be expensive oil change then......

I'll be interested to try 0W-20 FS oil in my myvi if they really have it.

My guess on why they indicated it in the brochure is because they will be using the usual 5W30 or 10W30. And then when customers complain why cant they achieve 21.6km/l, P2 will say that the test is based on 0W20 oil. So unless the customers use 0W20 FS, 21.6km/l wont be easily achieve maybe? Coz many people will assume that 21.6km/l is achieved using 5W30 Semi Syn.

Also, is P2 offering free maintenance service for Axia?

 

[ericmaxman]

Will be expensive oil change then......

Cheap car, not so cheap oil change.

I'll be interested to try 0W-20 FS oil in my myvi if they really have it.

My guess on why they indicated it in the brochure is because they will be using the usual 5W30 or 10W30. And then when customers complain why cant they achieve 21.6km/l, P2 will say that the test is based on 0W20 oil. So unless the customers use 0W20 FS, 21.6km/l wont be easily achieve maybe? Coz many people will assume that 21.6km/l is achieved using 5W30 Semi Syn.

Plausible.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

It is stated in the brochure that they are using 0W-20 for FC purposes. I would believe that when it comes to servicing, they'll stick back to the 0W-20 oils as well, unless the customer wants otherwise. The service booklet would also state that the optimum oil to be used would be the 0W-20 oil.

Sure you can use other oils in there, but P2 wont guarantee you can achieve the said FC claims la.

I think still bores down to how heavy is your foot is more cost effective

 

[vr2turbo]

I'll be interested to try 0W-20 FS oil in my myvi if they really have it.

My guess on why they indicated it in the brochure is because they will be using the usual 5W30 or 10W30. And then when customers complain why cant they achieve 21.6km/l, P2 will say that the test is based on 0W20 oil. So unless the customers use 0W20 FS, 21.6km/l wont be easily achieve maybe? Coz many people will assume that 21.6km/l is achieved using 5W30 Semi Syn.

Also, is P2 offering free maintenance service for Axia?

Cv, you drive like Uncle then can use 0w-20. My friend tried in his Honda, high revs oil disappear....switch back to 5w-30 oil level maintain....

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I think still bores down to how heavy is your foot is more cost effective

Must drive like Uncle Cv.....

 

[Izso]

I still have one 1L bottle of Mobil 1 0W20 at home. I used it on my Wira for a while (the other 3 bottles). Didn't use it long. About 2000 km changed it out cuz I could not stand the way the car struggled at higher revs.

Anyway, so the Iris is RM42k starting price. I think the Axia is going to sell well.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

I still have one 1L bottle of Mobil 1 0W20 at home. I used it on my Wira for a while (the other 3 bottles). Didn't use it long. About 2000 km changed it out cuz I could not stand the way the car struggled at higher revs.

Anyway, so the Iris is RM42k starting price. I think the Axia is going to sell well.

Iris, I think many will wait and see. 1st batch is the infamous guinea pig batch.

 

[vr2turbo]

I still have one 1L bottle of Mobil 1 0W20 at home. I used it on my Wira for a while (the other 3 bottles). Didn't use it long. About 2000 km changed it out cuz I could not stand the way the car struggled at higher revs.

Anyway, so the Iris is RM42k starting price. I think the Axia is going to sell well.

Still different class mah! Now see affect Myvi or not?

 

[Izso]

Myvi may or may not be affected, all depends on the quality of the car. Myvi has very little problems except for the previous batches of rotors. Other than that the car had very little problems. What more people know it's a rebadged Toyota. Iris has its work cut out, so here's hoping their QC is good. Good thing they didn't listen to that old man and priced this car high.

 

[chsyke]

Planning to test both P1 and P2 this weekend. Hope the q is not long...

 

[cvkit17]

Cv, you drive like Uncle then can use 0w-20. My friend tried in his Honda, high revs oil disappear....switch back to 5w-30 oil level maintain....

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Must drive like Uncle Cv.....

I think if often stuck in traffic jam, 0W20 is beneficial...might give it a shot since I stuck in jam almost everyday now

Myvi may or may not be affected, all depends on the quality of the car. Myvi has very little problems except for the previous batches of rotors. Other than that the car had very little problems. What more people know it's a rebadged Toyota. Iris has its work cut out, so here's hoping their QC is good. Good thing they didn't listen to that old man and priced this car high.

I think myvi sales will be affected. And one mistake that Perodua made is ripping off the ABS and EBD from their Axia Spec G. ABS and EBD are quite common nowadays thus people will use them as a point to compare. I guess the only P2 can sell good now is the Axia Spec G because it is the cheapest-not-kosong-car one could afford. Another selling point for P2 is that their car has a better reliability record than P1.

I think Proton did a good job on Iriz. First appearance, specs, and features seem to be good compared to other competitors at that price range. However, its a P1. Many people still do not trust P1. Its like comparing Korean cars with Jap cars. Japanese cars still sell better despite Korean cars have more features and better equipped. Lets see.

Btw, why is the CVT on Iriz gives higher FC compared to manual? Many cvt car models have better FC compared to manual..

 

[vr2turbo]

I think if often stuck in traffic jam, 0W20 is beneficial...might give it a shot since I stuck in jam almost everyday now



I think myvi sales will be affected. And one mistake that Perodua made is ripping off the ABS and EBD from their Axia Spec G. ABS and EBD are quite common nowadays thus people will use them as a point to compare. I guess the only P2 can sell good now is the Axia Spec G because it is the cheapest-not-kosong-car one could afford. Another selling point for P2 is that their car has a better reliability record than P1.

I think Proton did a good job on Iriz. First appearance, specs, and features seem to be good compared to other competitors at that price range. However, its a P1. Many people still do not trust P1. Its like comparing Korean cars with Jap cars. Japanese cars still sell better despite Korean cars have more features and better equipped. Lets see.

Btw, why is the CVT on Iriz gives higher FC compared to manual? Many cvt car models have better FC compared to manual..

Then get the bottle from bro. Izso, and buy the balance to try....

CVT still auto mah! Manual is manual.....

 

[Izso]

I think if often stuck in traffic jam, 0W20 is beneficial...might give it a shot since I stuck in jam almost everyday now

I think Proton did a good job on Iriz. First appearance, specs, and features seem to be good compared to other competitors at that price range. However, its a P1. Many people still do not trust P1. Its like comparing Korean cars with Jap cars. Japanese cars still sell better despite Korean cars have more features and better equipped. Lets see.

Btw, why is the CVT on Iriz gives higher FC compared to manual? Many cvt car models have better FC compared to manual..

Ya, your uncle driving paired with 0W20 will probably improve your FC even more. But I've seen your version of "uncle driving". I don't think it'll improve that much more

And ya, I like the Iriz a lot more than the Myvi or Axia. But only the 1.6L Premium / Exec interests me. The only thing I find interesting is the 40k km CVT oil change interval. That's really short. Why is the P1 CVT oil change interval so short compared to the Nissan ones? Nissan is 100k km.

As for FC, I don't know. Personally the FC on my current car has yet to exceed 11km/. Have not tried outstation driving yet.

Then get the bottle from bro. Izso, and buy the balance to try....

CVT still auto mah! Manual is manual.....

Ya about that.... I realized it was opened, not closed as I originally stated. So I mixed it with the old oil I had lying around and used that as flushing oil.

 

[vr2turbo]

Ya, your uncle driving paired with 0W20 will probably improve your FC even more. But I've seen your version of "uncle driving". I don't think it'll improve that much more

And ya, I like the Iriz a lot more than the Myvi or Axia. But only the 1.6L Premium / Exec interests me. The only thing I find interesting is the 40k km CVT oil change interval. That's really short. Why is the P1 CVT oil change interval so short compared to the Nissan ones? Nissan is 100k km.

As for FC, I don't know. Personally the FC on my current car has yet to exceed 11km/. Have not tried outstation driving yet.



Ya about that.... I realized it was opened, not closed as I originally stated. So I mixed it with the old oil I had lying around and used that as flushing oil.

Wah! yours can last 100k km cvt fluid change? I hear Honda CVT fluid change is 40k km also.

Oops, then Bro. Cvkit got to buy 4 bottles....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

I think if often stuck in traffic jam, 0W20 is beneficial...might give it a shot since I stuck in jam almost everyday now

I think myvi sales will be affected. And one mistake that Perodua made is ripping off the ABS and EBD from their Axia Spec G. ABS and EBD are quite common nowadays thus people will use them as a point to compare. I guess the only P2 can sell good now is the Axia Spec G because it is the cheapest-not-kosong-car one could afford. Another selling point for P2 is that their car has a better reliability record than P1.

I think Proton did a good job on Iriz. First appearance, specs, and features seem to be good compared to other competitors at that price range. However, its a P1. Many people still do not trust P1. Its like comparing Korean cars with Jap cars. Japanese cars still sell better despite Korean cars have more features and better equipped. Lets see.

Btw, why is the CVT on Iriz gives higher FC compared to manual? Many cvt car models have better FC compared to manual..

1.6 CVT. Hmmm....maybe can transplant Preve engine inside
No ABS or EBD nvm la, at least reminds us of the feeling of driving Kelisa.

Feel is a Kelisa replacement rather than Viva hehe!

Ya, your uncle driving paired with 0W20 will probably improve your FC even more. But I've seen your version of "uncle driving". I don't think it'll improve that much more

And ya, I like the Iriz a lot more than the Myvi or Axia. But only the 1.6L Premium / Exec interests me. The only thing I find interesting is the 40k km CVT oil change interval. That's really short. Why is the P1 CVT oil change interval so short compared to the Nissan ones? Nissan is 100k km.

As for FC, I don't know. Personally the FC on my current car has yet to exceed 11km/. Have not tried outstation driving yet.

Ya about that.... I realized it was opened, not closed as I originally stated. So I mixed it with the old oil I had lying around and used that as flushing oil.

U guys didnt go test drive yesterday? His Uncle speed is just that he see things around him getting slower when he drives. That's why he felt slow, therefore is uncle speed

 

[vr2turbo]

1.6 CVT. Hmmm....maybe can transplant Preve engine inside
No ABS or EBD nvm la, at least reminds us of the feeling of driving Kelisa.

Feel is a Kelisa replacement rather than Viva hehe!



U guys didnt go test drive yesterday? His Uncle speed is just that he see things around him getting slower when he drives. That's why he felt slow, therefore is uncle speed

Kelisa replacement? Then you better get one, since you love the kelisa.....

Wah! Bro. cvkit is another Initial D in the making.....