Need a guide to install rear ARBar on Savvy

[5702]

Guys, I need a guide.
I tried to install UR rear ARBar on Savvy but the rear suspension there got springs blocked me to screw the nuts
May I know how to remove the spring? What tools should I need to do the job?

Thx:proud:

 

[PocketRocket]

i think u need the tire shop to install it for you, alignment lari wan wor....

 

[speed2horizon]

Guys, I need a guide.
I tried to install UR rear ARBar on Savvy but the rear suspension there got springs blocked me to screw the nuts
May I know how to remove the spring? What tools should I need to do the job?

Thx:proud:

Muahaha... there's a spring clamp ppl use to compress the spring when need to remove the spring...

Or u, can do this...

But could be DANGEROUS if wire is not strong enough...

1) Lossen the wheel nut
2) Jack up the car and remove the wheel.
3) Use a second jack to compress the spring below the rear axle bar.
4) Use steel wire to tie the spring about 30 loops. As much as u think it's safe to hold the spring reaction force.
5) MAKE SURE u know the end of every end of the wire tightly.
6) Then release the 2nd jack. U should realize that the spring is still under compression.
7) Then take out the spring lor..

 

[PocketRocket]

sounds like suicide....

 

[speed2horizon]

sounds like suicide....

Yalor.... Like said.... Could be DANGEROUS ma... But i did it last time lor... But I won't do it again lor...

BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY...

 

[5702]

i think u need the tire shop to install it for you, alignment lari wan wor....

thx, but i wan to gain exp:stupid:

Muahaha... there's a spring clamp ppl use to compress the spring when need to remove the spring...

Or u, can do this...

But could be DANGEROUS if wire is not strong enough...

1) Lossen the wheel nut
2) Jack up the car and remove the wheel.
3) Use a second jack to compress the spring below the rear axle bar.
4) Use steel wire to tie the spring about 30 loops. As much as u think it's safe to hold the spring reaction force.
5) MAKE SURE u know the end of every end of the wire tightly.
6) Then release the 2nd jack. U should realize that the spring is still under compression.
7) Then take out the spring lor..

really need to take out the wheels?

according to the pic from UR, seems like no need take out the wheels

http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=2973

*marked area means the springs located

rear axle bar u mean this one?

 

[speed2horizon]

Take out the wheels then the lower arm lighter ma...
IF u dun take out the wheel, how to tie the wire and take out the spring leh..?

But better do at shop lor... cause u need a 3 tons jack leh... higher ma

 

[5702]

ok

 

[speed2horizon]

ok

please note!!!
Spring under compressed can contain high potential energy and tends to expand.... Can be dangerous!!!! and may cause injury

 

[5702]

please note!!!
Spring under compressed can contain high potential energy and tends to expand.... Can be dangerous!!!! and may cause injury

no la, i mean i listen yur advice as taking to the workshop:proud:

 

[speed2horizon]

no la, i mean i listen yur advice as taking to the workshop:proud:

Good.. please let us know the result of having the ARB. Cause kenari tends to over steer alot and belakang lift up when take harsh corners..

 

[jy_1990]

Savvy understeers alot... are you sure rear arb will do any good? Or you already hv the front bars?

No offense, I drive Savvy too... :)

 

[zac]

Erm... i just install arb in my wira, bigger diameter will stabilize your ride but also more understeer if you using not so grip tyre, you need to have a better tyre and alignment to make it a good a combination...

just sharing experience lah... : )

 

[speed2horizon]

Erm... i just install arb in my wira, bigger diameter will stabilize your ride but also more understeer if you using not so grip tyre, you need to have a better tyre and alignment to make it a good a combination...

just sharing experience lah... : )

Well, an antiroll bar, as the name says, it's to prevent antiroll... the effectiveness of an antiroll bar also depends on the method it's being mounted.

Example.

EVO 2 & 3 : 17mm direct mounting system.
EVO 1 : 23mm Indirect mounting.

But u'll notice that EVO 2&3 having better handling than EVO 1. The way EVO 2 n 3 mount their ARB also improves the caster angle of the front wheels.

 

[zac]

Bro, how to diffrentiate direct/indirect mounted? wira belongs to which catergory??

 

[speed2horizon]

Bro, how to diffrentiate direct/indirect mounted? wira belongs to which catergory??

This is how it's differenciate. U know, the satya bushes..? THose are the indirect linkage using rubber bushes as connecting media. In order to upgrade the stock ARB into a better effectiveness, people might change to PU bushes. They are stiffer and have better durability compare to the OEM rubber bushes.

So, the ARB is mounted via the linkage indirectly to the lower arm.

However, when using direct mounting. The ARB is mounted onto the Absorbers instead of lower arm. Which highly increase the effectiveness of the antiroll bar. The linkage is mounted via a pillow ball directly onto the ARB and absorbers.

No Bushes needed except for the main bush on the cross member.

90% of wira uses indirect mounted ARB. But, the WIRA SE 1st batch uses direct mounted. those with 4 disc brakes.

For better explaination, U can check this discussion on my previous post when i was selling my 1.6 stock antifoll bar.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/chassis-and-wheels/242035-antiroll-bar-1-6-a-2.html

 

[zac]

ohh... i c the difference now...


but then why UR chose to manufacture indirect mounted arn rather than direct mounted one? whats the pro and con? i assume direct one is less comfort based on the info given, is tat right?

 

[speed2horizon]

ohh... i c the difference now...


but then why UR chose to manufacture indirect mounted arn rather than direct mounted one? whats the pro and con? i assume direct one is less comfort based on the info given, is tat right?

Well, cause when converting an indirect mounted into a direct mounted system, if a car is not using absorbers that are ready for direct mounted, owner needs to change absorbers.

So, not everyone are not prepared for that budget. Being a manufacturer, they have to consider the budget for the consumer. Not only for high budget automotive enthusiate. So, they need to produce Plug N Play range product for the consumer market.

There are always contradiction between comfort and handling. U have to sacrifice either of them. Well, a complete upgrade to balance the comfort and handling of the car may require a big budget.

 

[drexchan]

It's not as difficult as you think but it's always good to let the professional hands to do it with professional tools and equipments.

RM30 is what you may need to pay. Better still, buy your parts from a dealership who can install it for you. It would probably be FOC if you got the right one.