Any tips on prevent stalling?

[NeniNeniBoBo]

Just now i have try to give more throttle and slow release the clutch, no stall but the feeling not so good.... I had noticed some thing, i don't know whether is correct or wrong, I found out that for twin clutch, when slowly release, once reach the friction point, the car will have some tiny response, then release little bit more is enuf, until the car is rolling then only slowly full release. Can't release more or else will stall. For me, to master the twin clutch is only catch between "friction point" and "few mm above friction point", is hard me to catch it.... (correct me if i'm wrong)

 

[dean_nojum]

reli ar..fast learner ni..hehehe

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

I don't know I'm correct or not, must correct me if i'm wrong bro....

 

[gobiz]

boss buy this clutch...

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...311684-nismo-g-max-twin-plate-clutch-kit.html

almost every1 say its just like stock clutch


my current r32 has twin plate (not sure what type - maybe Os, maybe Nismo) but smooth... just a bit worse than stock...

 

[Driftmeister]

My HKS Twins Plate is like an ON / OFF switch. You just hv to learn the pick-up point and once the pedal is release just let the car trickle by itself. Don't try to modulate like a normal clutch when going uphill, use your handbrake cos they are your bestfriend now...

 

[mizunori77]

i remember i practiced driving my car around my housing area because the roads are narrow and its mostly 1st or 2nd gear. after awhile, i'm comfortable with the clutch release and throttle control ady... but now still got problem if stuck in jam lar... leg will get numb after awhile from working the clutch. i usually wait for 2 to 3 cars lengths before i move so there's plenty of space for me to brake in case my car shoot forward...

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

I personal feel that use the handbrake to sense the "point" will be more easy....... But if stuck in traffic, u'll be busy playing ur hand with the handbrake.....

 

[rainbow]

no offence, i first time try semperfi car, his car with twin plate clutch too, but i didnt feel too hard, just feel stress driving friend's car. nenibobo bro, slowly, u can do it. trust urself. ^_^

 

[semperfi]

Like I said... I installed the clutch pump. And everything was a breeze after that. The first time I drove without one after installing my twin plate, my car stalled the first time I drove it. If you are a fast learner, you will learn when to release and add more throttle.


Good post rainbow.

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

Just now go train again, don't know why everytime come to junction, I will stall..... I try to give more gas and release, it still stall. If I keep on like this, I can't able to join TT liao......

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no offence, i first time try semperfi car, his car with twin plate clutch too, but i didnt feel too hard, just feel stress driving friend's car. nenibobo bro, slowly, u can do it. trust urself. ^_^

Bro, how can you drive so smooth........ admire you guys la. Any steps? Hopefully can learn from step by step....

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Like I said... I installed the clutch pump. And everything was a breeze after that. The first time I drove without one after installing my twin plate, my car stalled the first time I drove it. If you are a fast learner, you will learn when to release and add more throttle.


Good post rainbow.

semperfi, I tot after install the pump will only make your clutch lighter. Will it expand the "room of friction point"?

 

[GTS500]

Do you mean at junction when you clutch in completely it stalls? Do check your BOV.

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

Do you mean at junction when you clutch in completely it stalls? Do check your BOV.

No bro, is my fault. I still can't catch the on/off point of twin clutch, always release too much.

 

[semperfi]

Just now go train again, don't know why everytime come to junction, I will stall..... I try to give more gas and release, it still stall. If I keep on like this, I can't able to join TT liao......

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Bro, how can you drive so smooth........ admire you guys la. Any steps? Hopefully can learn from step by step....

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semperfi, I tot after install the pump will only make your clutch lighter. Will it expand the "room of friction point"?

Sure yours is not triple plate? Yes, it does make it lighter and easier for you to control the release of the clutch. A few inches make a lot of difference! You might wanna try this method. It's pretty basic actually. throttle up, release the clutch slowly and if you feel the car is coming to a stall, stop where your clutch is and add more throttle (release the clutch a little bit more) and when you feel there's a slight forward movement in your car, release the clutch totally. I suggest you get the nismo clutch pump. It does help a lot with the clutch release. Clutch pump only helps with the ease of clutch release after installing racing clutches.

 

[farizio]

actually, twin plate or even triple plate clutches aren't super hard to press like most people believe... some are actually very light... its just the biting point is not as progressive or as smooth as stock clutches (their purpose is for motorsports, not to roll around town at pedestrian speeds)

my advice is release your clutch while in gear until you hear the clanging sound starts to disappear then HOLD it there..

now give it some gas, if the car starts moving, give it a bit more gas then when your speed builds up you can release the clutch pedal

if the car doesnt move when u give it gas, release the clutch pedal a bit more till the car moves

dont play around with the clutch (balancing it all the time while on lower gears to keep it smooth) too much as this wears out your clutch faster

once you get the hang of it you will realise you only need to put your foot on the clutch pedal when you need to change gears (especially since the GTR has a lot of torque compared to a Kancil or Iswara)

hope this helps. as usual, if any of this info is wrong feel free to correct.

 

[semperfi]

There ya go...

Drive more to get the feel of it and you'll be up and running in no time.

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

Sure yours is not triple plate? Yes, it does make it lighter and easier for you to control the release of the clutch. A few inches make a lot of difference! You might wanna try this method. It's pretty basic actually. throttle up, release the clutch slowly and if you feel the car is coming to a stall, stop where your clutch is and add more throttle (release the clutch a little bit more) and when you feel there's a slight forward movement in your car, release the clutch totally. I suggest you get the nismo clutch pump. It does help a lot with the clutch release. Clutch pump only helps with the ease of clutch release after installing racing clutches.

Thank you bro for your suggestion.

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actually, twin plate or even triple plate clutches aren't super hard to press like most people believe... some are actually very light... its just the biting point is not as progressive or as smooth as stock clutches (their purpose is for motorsports, not to roll around town at pedestrian speeds)

my advice is release your clutch while in gear until you hear the clanging sound starts to disappear then HOLD it there..

now give it some gas, if the car starts moving, give it a bit more gas then when your speed builds up you can release the clutch pedal

if the car doesnt move when u give it gas, release the clutch pedal a bit more till the car moves

dont play around with the clutch (balancing it all the time while on lower gears to keep it smooth) too much as this wears out your clutch faster

once you get the hang of it you will realise you only need to put your foot on the clutch pedal when you need to change gears (especially since the GTR has a lot of torque compared to a Kancil or Iswara)

hope this helps. as usual, if any of this info is wrong feel free to correct.

From the 1st time i floor my clutch, it make me feel the clutch so heavy. After go through a week of driving, i slowly feel that is not so heavy but only the bitting point. I'll try this method again later, thanks bro ^_^

 

[cosmicgate]

reminds me of the time when i started driving my car,bitch was hard as hell and when i just depress too much the car lunges forward and stalled. It got so scarry that i refused to drive it at all, coz the clutch seems to have a pressure point. Fully press in, then release 20% still okay car not moving, 40% still okay, car still not moving, then half way at 40-50% the car just suddenly lunges forward so fast, so violently. scarry as hell and so difficult to gauge.Imagine lah how to gauge in between the point of 40-50% with it?i certainlly aint no genius lah the clutch just is funny la, so makan.

In the end have to do the ala ah beng way lah, throttle up alot(like u wanna race with ppl) vrooooooooommmm, then release clutch slowly. i hate it to be honest when u are stuck at traffic with car beside u. everyone will probably think "wah look at this ah beng, show off!" but what to do right?

eventually got used to it, now if u wanna try my left kick i welcome anyone lah. Probably can smack and destroy heineken bottles with bare feet.*haiyahhhh~~~~show off smelly feet*

oh yah after kung fu feet now i cannot drive kelisa car anymore, coz clutch too soft LOL, kena laughed at stalling kelisas now.

 

[TitanRev]

cosmic, ya...after get used to twin or triple plate clutch. Then drive a stock car with stock clutch when you press feel like no clutch at all...press...like empty only...Hahahaha

 

[NeniNeniBoBo]

reminds me of the time when i started driving my car,bitch was hard as hell and when i just depress too much the car lunges forward and stalled. It got so scarry that i refused to drive it at all, coz the clutch seems to have a pressure point. Fully press in, then release 20% still okay car not moving, 40% still okay, car still not moving, then half way at 40-50% the car just suddenly lunges forward so fast, so violently. scarry as hell and so difficult to gauge.Imagine lah how to gauge in between the point of 40-50% with it?i certainlly aint no genius lah the clutch just is funny la, so makan.

In the end have to do the ala ah beng way lah, throttle up alot(like u wanna race with ppl) vrooooooooommmm, then release clutch slowly. i hate it to be honest when u are stuck at traffic with car beside u. everyone will probably think "wah look at this ah beng, show off!" but what to do right?

eventually got used to it, now if u wanna try my left kick i welcome anyone lah. Probably can smack and destroy heineken bottles with bare feet.*haiyahhhh~~~~show off smelly feet*

oh yah after kung fu feet now i cannot drive kelisa car anymore, coz clutch too soft LOL, kena laughed at stalling kelisas now.

Ya, has been 2 times scold by those motorcyclist when i give more throttle but the car still not move forward, they scold me "puk*ma lansi punya babi"...... -_- They don't understand how difficult of our situation....... 100% agree!! as u said, to take the mid point between 40%-50%, for a freshly as me is very hard, especially when car behind horn you, u'll be nervous and release more clutch and lastly stall....... then they horn again -_-......

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cosmic, ya...after get used to twin or triple plate clutch. Then drive a stock car with stock clutch when you press feel like no clutch at all...press...like empty only...Hahahaha

Hopefully soon or later I can have this level ^_^

 

[kaminari]

Hello there bro, you can adjust the height of the clutch point as what you want too. :) ...either 40% or 10% also can. Some ppl dun like to dump clutch too deep