Engine Oil 10w40 - Recommendation?

[vr2turbo]

How do you know it "does not seem to interact well with the oil."?

Butt feel.....hahhahhahaha

 

[gunnerzz]

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How do you know it "does not seem to interact well with the oil."?

slightly higher fc and lower low end pull.
if i recall correctly the viscosity is the same as the total quartz 9000 i was on.

juat check my drain container which is an pty total 7000 energy container.
it was rated SL,guess they have upgrade the rating now.

next i will buy eother the aisin 20l barrel or buy 4-5 bottle of the total 7000.
total is slightly cheaper conpared tp the aisin.
maybe coz aisin is sold at spare part shop.

 

[6UE5t]

Butt feel.....hahhahhahaha

I personally can never tell any difference, butt feel or other feels. That's why I just buy cheapest one as long as within the required viscosity spec.

 

[vr2turbo]

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slightly higher fc and lower low end pull.
if i recall correctly the viscosity is the same as the total quartz 9000 i was on.

juat check my drain container which is an pty total 7000 energy container.
it was rated SL,guess they have upgrade the rating now.

next i will buy eother the aisin 20l barrel or buy 4-5 bottle of the total 7000.
total is slightly cheaper conpared tp the aisin.
maybe coz aisin is sold at spare part shop.

Total Quartz 9000 have 5w-30, 5w-40 and 5w-50. The one sold in Tesco was 5w-40 if not mistaken. Mobil 1 silver is 5w-50 and Gold is 0w-40. If use silver Mobil 1 then the viscosity is thicker at 50, which could have cause your higher fc and lesser acceleration.....

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I personally can never tell any difference, butt feel or other feels. That's why I just buy cheapest one as long as within the required viscosity spec.

I am with you brother on this, if using same viscosity of different brand. Cannot feel the difference that is why I just use the cheapest FS I can get my hands on. For me since running lower mileage I just change at 5k km or 6 months.
However I used 5w-50, 10w-60, 5-30 and 5w-40 before in the VR.
10w-60 was definitely heavier feel, 5w-50 was quite close to 5w-40 but still slightly heavier. 5w-30 was light but my hydraulic tappet chatter loudly after the oil have warmed up, so I drained it and have been on 5w-40 even since.....

 

[Izso]

Just wondering.....I am currently using Total 5w30....But then, Malaysia weather so hot couple with my engine being turbocharged, wouldnt it be too much heat for the oil grade to take? I mean i am just guessing la.

What do you guys think? Would the viscosity for the 5w be very thin and cannot protect the engine with the heat that its going through?

Your turbo isn't oil cooled right? Meaning you won't burn off any oil or anything. Why would you need to go thicker than manufacturer recommended?

Valvoline 10-40 not bad but so far sumo 10-60 is really damn good.

Silky smooth & big contrast compare to 10-40.

Personally if you ask me - if 10W60 is "smoother" than 10W40, I'd be concerned. Something so thick is smoother on your car means the oil viscosity is either inaccurate or there's something wrong with your car. It's supposed to feel very heavy for 10W60.

Or was your car specs supposed to use 10W60 in the first place? Then using 10W40 will make it unresponsive cuz too thin.

I have tried Mobil 1 before and it was at super bargain price.
Too bad my engine does not seem to interact well with the oil.
Maybe its been running on Total all along so I started using the total 7000 energy.
Super cheap, 5l packaging..what more can I ask for as my Waja needs 5l of oil.

For the Tesco oil, my BLM is still using it and previous oil was drain at abt 5k km.

I recall servicing a Waja. And I don't recall it ever using that much oil. Sure ka?

I personally can never tell any difference, butt feel or other feels. That's why I just buy cheapest one as long as within the required viscosity spec.

I personally can't tell the difference either until the car is pushed hard. Then the temp stability is a giveaway

 

[marv3]

Your turbo isn't oil cooled right? Meaning you won't burn off any oil or anything. Why would you need to go thicker than manufacturer recommended?

How do i know if the turbo is oil cooled or not ya? Any way to identify it from the car?

But i think is both though, but cant really be sure......

 

[Maxx]

Your turbo isn't oil cooled right? Meaning you won't burn off any oil or anything. Why would you need to go thicker than manufacturer recommended?



Personally if you ask me - if 10W60 is "smoother" than 10W40, I'd be concerned. Something so thick is smoother on your car means the oil viscosity is either inaccurate or there's something wrong with your car. It's supposed to feel very heavy for 10W60.

Or was your car specs supposed to use 10W60 in the first place? Then using 10W40 will make it unresponsive cuz too thin.



I recall servicing a Waja. And I don't recall it ever using that much oil. Sure ka?



I personally can't tell the difference either until the car is pushed hard. Then the temp stability is a giveaway

How do i know if the turbo is oil cooled or not ya? Any way to identify it from the car?

But i think is both though, but cant really be sure......

i dont think there is a 'oil cooled' turbo.. all turbo running on oil isnt it?
just some turbo got water cooled.

afaik, those term oil cooled / water cooled are coined from formen.. differentiating 'oil only turbo' and 'oil & water cooled turbo'

 

[vr2turbo]

I recall servicing a Waja. And I don't recall it ever using that much oil. Sure ka?

I think his Waja is with Renault 1.8L engine that requires 5L engine oil....

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i dont think there is a 'oil cooled' turbo.. all turbo running on oil isnt it?
just some turbo got water cooled.

afaik, those term oil cooled / water cooled are coined from formen.. differentiating 'oil only turbo' and 'oil & water cooled turbo'

Like mine, it is water cooled but oil lubricated......

 

[gunnerzz]

I recall servicing a Waja. And I don't recall it ever using that much oil. Sure ka?



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mine is neither the campro nor mitsu waja.
mine is f4p engine.

 

[6UE5t]

Total Quartz 9000 have 5w-30, 5w-40 and 5w-50. The one sold in Tesco was 5w-40 if not mistaken. Mobil 1 silver is 5w-50 and Gold is 0w-40. If use silver Mobil 1 then the viscosity is thicker at 50, which could have cause your higher fc and lesser acceleration.....

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I am with you brother on this, if using same viscosity of different brand. Cannot feel the difference that is why I just use the cheapest FS I can get my hands on. For me since running lower mileage I just change at 5k km or 6 months.
However I used 5w-50, 10w-60, 5-30 and 5w-40 before in the VR.
10w-60 was definitely heavier feel, 5w-50 was quite close to 5w-40 but still slightly heavier. 5w-30 was light but my hydraulic tappet chatter loudly after the oil have warmed up, so I drained it and have been on 5w-40 even since.....

Mobil also now has Mobil 3000 X1 5w40 in Tesco.
Yeah for Mitsu's HLA, I also used to use Total Quartz 9000 5w40 FS.

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I personally can't tell the difference either until the car is pushed hard. Then the temp stability is a giveaway

I don't push hard for too long period, maximum only like the time I need when going up Genting, not racing on tracks or repeated drag runs. Temp still stable also but of course I don't measure with more accurate meters.

 

[vr2turbo]

Mobil also now has Mobil 3000 X1 5w40 in Tesco.
Yeah for Mitsu's HLA, I also used to use Total Quartz 9000 5w40 FS.

Yesterday saw new oil in Aeon (Formerly Jusco) Shell Formula FS 5w-30 comes in 946ml x 4 for RM129
SN rated Made in USA

 

[Izso]

Ok "oil cooled" isn't the right terminology, my bad. But I don't know how else to explain what it is I'm thinking.

Anyway. Small turbo no need so thick oil la. I'm sure the oil can take the heat.

 

[vr2turbo]

Ok "oil cooled" isn't the right terminology, my bad. But I don't know how else to explain what it is I'm thinking.

Anyway. Small turbo no need so thick oil la. I'm sure the oil can take the heat.

Just ask him follow car manufacturers recommendation......

 

[6UE5t]

Yesterday saw new oil in Aeon (Formerly Jusco) Shell Formula FS 5w-30 comes in 946ml x 4 for RM129
SN rated Made in USA

Oh that's very good to hear coz not easy to find 5w30 FS oil at cheaper prices where most are >rm150, or cheaper ones are only semi. Which AEON did you see it?

 

[vr2turbo]

Oh that's very good to hear coz not easy to find 5w30 FS oil at cheaper prices where most are >rm150, or cheaper ones are only semi. Which AEON did you see it?

Mid Valley.
Yah! most oil on sales are mostly 40 weight, now those using 30 can also get. RM129 is cheap....

 

[6UE5t]

Mid Valley.
Yah! most oil on sales are mostly 40 weight, now those using 30 can also get. RM129 is cheap....

Great, it's not far from my place and I often go there. But for now I'm still using the Mobil 3000 X1, still got stock I bought in Tesco.

 

[NA all the way]

What brand would you recommend for Proton Wira car?

Currently using FUCHS but seems not as good as Castrol Magnetec I used in the past. Thinking of trying Shell or Petronas. What's your call?

I would recommend Torco TR-5. Engine feels smoother and I seem to be getting better gas mileage as well.

 

[6UE5t]

I would recommend Torco TR-5. Engine feels smoother and I seem to be getting better gas mileage as well.

Expensive oil.

 

[NA all the way]

Expensive oil.

I find the price to alright as the quality is there I get mine from Kakimotor for RM135 inc GST for 4 liters but I recently saw someone here selling it for RM125

 

[6UE5t]

I find the price to alright as the quality is there I get mine from Kakimotor for RM135 inc GST for 4 liters but I recently saw someone here selling it for RM125

But that's only semi synth oil right? For that price I can buy full synth oils already from other popular brands, granted that they must be on promotion price in Tesco/AEON.
Torco, Amsoil, Liqui Moly, Motul, HKS, etc2 are well know high quality oils but they never on such promotion anywhere, so to me they're expensive. Maybe if someday I own high performance cars then I might consider those but now my ordinary sedan & MPV do not need expensive oils.