Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[Hadi17]

Yes la. K&N sells for "Wira/Satria", they don't say "Wira/Satria 1.3" or "1.5".

I wouldn't buy K&N though. It's expensive and constantly needs oiling. Very mafan

then which one is good, reliable and cheap ? i thought of getting one .. hehe

 

[Izso]

then which one is good, reliable and cheap ? i thought of getting one .. hehe

I would get anything that isn't metal mesh. Metal mesh is ok also but your engine oil will get dirty faster only. Metal mesh has higher air flow.

I'm personally using the Simota one - cheap and cheerful.

 

[desmond0318]

yea, don't use metal mesh, can't filter dust at all have to clean the throttle body around 1-3 weeks to keep performance optimum..

 

[wira02]

hi sifus,
got wira a/b 2002 4g13p to upgrade with a current budget of ~RM2k.
need suggestion from all sifus what upgrade can be done.

should i go for aftermarket performance part (eg: hi-cam,etc...)?....what can get with budget above

or should i save more money to go for 1.5L block upgrade?

just want to know which one is worth for money to invest. if just by aftermarket part can achieve same result as change to 1.5L with less investment, sure will go for that.....:tongue:

 

[tofu_manic]

if i were u id go straight for a 1.5 block, best bang for buck...torque increases all over the board

...then start from this as a base

 

[wira02]

so glad still got sifus to drop a comment....
thought this thread dead edi.....

thanks for the recommendation!...

What's the cost for the 1.5L block mod nowadays?....can give estimation?...
if very high...then must save more money from now on........

nasi putih ikan goreng only starting today.....lol

 

[tofu_manic]

did mine so many yrs ago i cant remember haha sorry

urs is carburetted or efi?

 

[wira02]

mine efi (I believe....some people said if the air filter looks like a box /drop in is efi.....lol...sorry...no nothing about engine...just whack on the road only....)

all sifus already done a lot of mod....

me budak baru blaja just wanna start....lol....

RM4k sounds enough in ur opinion?

 

[tofu_manic]

4k sounds pretty good, may be able to do a stroker kit right away

4g15 block + 4g18 crank/pistons

u can try contacting Powerzone to see what they can offer you with a budget of 4k

you'll prolly save more if you source items yourself, provided you have a competent workshop

try pm'ing iszo, his is efi and done up already, can advise you

mine is carburetted so things are simpler haha

 

[wira02]

just now communicated with Pwrzne edi....

but just asking for their suggestion for mod. with budget of RM2k (which actually my current budget right now.....haha)

they quot:

extractor = RM490.00
camshaft = RM1300.00
powercable = RM200.00

the quote including the labour charges edi.......

sounds worth it ar?

owh...iszo the admin from 4G1x group in Facebook right?

 

[tofu_manic]

powercable i think not necessary, bosch plug cables are cheap n cheerful, rm60 or so...change new standard copper plugs too

as for cams, what degree are they recommending u? im using matspeed, i think their regrind ones are cheaper than that...u can contact squirtparts...im using 272 degree matspeed cam, low end of the rpm abit less but nice fatter midrange to top..cipan of squirtparts will be glad to help u

oo totally stock standard ka? yeah at the minimum exhaust and intake first

yep izso is also a moderator here

 

[wira02]

powercable i think not necessary, bosch plug cables are cheap n cheerful, rm60 or so...change new standard copper plugs too

as for cams, what degree are they recommending u? im using matspeed, i think their regrind ones are cheaper than that...u can contact squirtparts...im using 272 degree matspeed cam, low end of the rpm abit less but nice fatter midrange to top..cipan of squirtparts will be glad to help u

oo totally stock standard ka? yeah at the minimum exhaust and intake first

yep izso is also a moderator here

yup....stock granny one....lol......
hmm, wondering should go for it or wait and save more money for 4g15 block upgrade.....

but my hand itchy edi mau buat....

the powerzone mod. suggestion still can't achieve same result as if 4g15 block mod right?....:hmmmm::hmmmm::hmmmm::hmmmm::hmmmm::hmmmm:

 

[tofu_manic]

a higher profile cam will shift powerband upwards

something like a 4g15 block will add power everywhere

if too itchy...u can do the cam first...and block later...cam can be swapped over

 

[wira02]

owh..u mean the all type of 4g13's cam are compatible to 4g15 right?

its worth to invest on the high cam 1st then....

r u from Malacca?....by any chance u know any xperience tuner/foremen to do engine mod?

mine just a normal foremen with his wokshop is his house. plus he always told me not to mod the car. leave it standard!

"nak bawak laju2 mau pergi mana???"......lol.....

 

[tofu_manic]

yessir cams are interchangeable

nop sorry cant help u there...me from land of hornbill hehe

mau bawa laju laju jimat masa...masa itu emas hehe

 

[wira02]

hehehe....."Sarawak" is it?.....
just pm the powerzone to estimate a price for mod to 4g15 block + stroker:

"block ada surat kedai potong jual RM2k+-
crank 1.6L RM950.00
piston bergantung pada compression RM500 - 2k

re-bore block
honing block
blueprint proses
full overhaul gasket
cleaning proses (chemical)
lapping block
RM3k+-

lain kos tambahan untuk modifikasi performance (option)
- oil squirter
- shot peening
- lightening part (rods,piston set)
- conductif coating
- truswasher support
- high com piston modification
- full balance"

:afraid::afraid::afraid::afraid:

if by calculate base on the highest price each item ~6k++......shock man!

 

[tofu_manic]

donit sked lah haha

get d block urself 1k plus, pistons and crank 1.2k or so (rough estimation, im not sure how much it costs now)...labour 1k plus...all in i think 4k sounds about right or possibly lower

nonid all d fancy stuff although they are nice to have hehe...balancing the whole thing will be good if u can afford it

 

[wira02]

yeah...I believe all the quot. for "high-end" package right?....hahaha

with that kind of amount 6K++ can go for half cut of better engine right?....

4G9x maybe?

 

[okwoks]

just to share, i requested quotation from pz to stroke my 4g15p and estimated price as below

for stroker kit 1.6L (crank & piston) RM2k
engine need to re-bore , balancing & blueprint proses...
total cost RM5k-7k

 

[tofu_manic]

wira02, yeah that depends on what you want...some might wanna stick to 4g1x series and push limits of ori engine, or not, up to u really...it's all in the budget hehe