Need Some Explanation On Ori & Local Wastegate

[Billy20]

Hi,

Guys there is so many cheap wastegate which will cost around Rm280-Rm500, and original is around Rm750++, i am talking about Tial 38mm.

Can any users of this type of wastegate's can give comment of this parts?
Can the cheaper wastegate last?
If both type of users give comment here will be better.

Thanks.

 

[SDF]

the biggest issue is consistency in production and performance.

the fakes obviously have a limitation to engineering and quality capabilities.

to put it simple, it's just pure luck when you buy a fake... never know when it will go..

 

[Billy20]

SDF,

Thanks for the info, but are using any of this wastegates and did u exprience anything so far?

 

[ehdrian]

i'm not using any but i've got frens who use immitation and ori..according to them, fake/immitation wastegates cannot hold boost steadily unlike the ori ones..

 

[chaf]

ehdrian, u mean the ori actuator....??

 

[ehdrian]

ehdrian, u mean the ori actuator....??

no la bro, i mean the external wastegate..

 

[MKMD428]

Hi,

Guys there is so many cheap wastegate which will cost around Rm280-Rm500, and original is around Rm750++, i am talking about Tial 38mm.

Can any users of this type of wastegate's can give comment of this parts?
Can the cheaper wastegate last?
If both type of users give comment here will be better.

Thanks.

they don't last.

two of my friends gave up on those imitation. one using TIAL imitation, another one HKS imitation. both failed. sluggish spring. poor reliability and durability of the internal parts of the wastegate. and sometimes even the wastegate opens when engine is on idle.

eventually both end up with turbo smart

 

[basikal_pancit]

the diagfram (orange rubber inside ) of the imitation is not as high quality as the original...
As for the outer it could be almost identical...
Used HKS ayam before and had to remove the diagfram since it is easily koyak when u boost.

 

[GT_AUTO]

reliability and durability is the main issues when it comes to fake product.some of u out there might be lucky cos i've seen a fake products that last quite long.

 

[wasteg4te]

im using ori tial wastegate, very satisfied,
and my friend used fake HKS wastegate with heavy mod engine, high boost. also ok
now he upgrade to stand alone. no problem at all.

just his luck maybe.

 

[Billy20]

Thanks for all the explanation guys,

Guys i am planning to buy from Samurai Racing who is fomally known as SS Racing, they are selling the Tial Wastegate 38mm for Rm750, is this tial will be the original 1? Any comment pls.....

Wasteg4te, bro the tial wastegate u using, is it 38mm? So far how long u using it aldy?

 

[GT_AUTO]

samurai only sell genuine stuff.good buy.

 

[ehdrian]

Thanks for all the explanation guys,

Guys i am planning to buy from Samurai Racing who is fomally known as SS Racing, they are selling the Tial Wastegate 38mm for Rm750, is this tial will be the original 1? Any comment pls.....

Wasteg4te, bro the tial wastegate u using, is it 38mm? So far how long u using it aldy?

i've seen many reputable shops selling ori tial for ard dat price..fake/replica wastegate is just 1/3 of an ori's price..

 

[wasteg4te]

Wasteg4te, bro the tial wastegate u using, is it 38mm? So far how long u using it aldy?

38mm, less than year, about 8 months :stupid:

 

[KRZ8v]

I m using those imitation Tial 38mm MVS (replica) non-ori wastegate. Can say dat still holding on strong and still functioning. But there is a few problem I came across lately, the discoloration of the WG housing.... It wuz a nice grey color coated housing @ 1st till 4-5 months later it became sumthing like "rainbow color". As for the spring, the WG starts to scream @ 0.7bar (no doubt the box stated 1 bar spring):hmmmm: but sumtimes after a long journey, the WG starts to open even @ low boost. Can't go above above 0.5 sumtimes

 

[MKMD428]

thats what u get from a tial wannabe... hihihihi

spend some bucks bro, get original.

 

[karl_razlie]

how turbo smart replica wastegate...look awesome!!...btw if we using fake wastegate can just change the diapram or spring to original one..maybe can solve the problem...

 

[Fastlane]

hi to all,

myself also buying the immitation Tial WG...bought new one...already install and never change or increase my boost....but reduce it some more...before installation i can get 0.6 boost but after its drop to o.4-0.5 bar...dunno what really the problem is? so frustrated

 

[kenzo]

guyz, if your wategates open up at low boost probably your springs are getting softer

its ok if it opens early instead it dosent open at all, then your looking at a jammed or tear diaphram

 

[speed2horizon]

how turbo smart replica wastegate...look awesome!!...btw if we using fake wastegate can just change the diapram or spring to original one..maybe can solve the problem...

Urm... It'll last a lil longer. But the ori ts wg are coated. And the clearance/edges/finishing are aso different due to the cost reduction on the machining n sand core used for casting.

U'll get what u paid for.

hi to all,

myself also buying the immitation Tial WG...bought new one...already install and never change or increase my boost....but reduce it some more...before installation i can get 0.6 boost but after its drop to o.4-0.5 bar...dunno what really the problem is? so frustrated

Though stock actuator, but still ori product and everything calculated and engineered up to specification. But counterfeit doesn't involve much engineering. Just copy the exterior look.

Also, there could be problem with the installation too. Installed an ori ts wg 1 year +... gives consistent boost and reliability, but boost pressure lower than rated. Problem was manifold high pressure contributes to lifting up the pistons. Reroute the boost source connection hoses, problem solved.