Evans Water-free Coolant

[^pomen_GTR^]

I'm on evans now. It feels like your normal ..... brake fluid! hahahah.... oil based so damn PITA to clean when it gets into your engine bay as it is like cleaning an oil spill. Heats up very fast so your warm up is good maybe can prevent those early start up wear and tear. Cools fast also. Can be used with your normal hoses. Have not checked the logs on the temps yet but so far no problems. I think it is great for cast iron blocks. Very suitable for your for your kereta perang that sits on your driveway for most of the week. Boils at 190c so when your engine oil is 120-130c that fellow is hardly breaking a sweat.

well...since u were saying brake fluid...

here is what i found:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluid
DOT Brake Fluid vs. Mineral Oil - and the Winner is.. | Epic Bleed Solutions


DOT3 brake fluid boiling temp was exactly at 190degree C...which makes the evan waterless coolant sounds pretty much like a brake fluid...


plus brake fluid also content GLYCOL which is also happens to be content of a coolant

 

[ken yeang]

the glycol is probably an anti freeze stuff in the brake lines.....in case for cars in cold countries

 

[vr2turbo]

Bro. pomen go test use brake fluid for your radiator.....lol

 

[AlucarD]

Izso, the engine was down for a rebuild so just add when it was assembled.

pomen, brake fluid is corrosive wei....

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

Izso, the engine was down for a rebuild so just add when it was assembled.

pomen, brake fluid is corrosive wei....

Bro. pomen go test use brake fluid for your radiator.....lol

i wouldnt try brake fluid....


but if i got a whole lot of glycol (ethylene glycol) then maybe i'll try using it in pure form...

 

[vr2turbo]

Izso, the engine was down for a rebuild so just add when it was assembled.

pomen, brake fluid is corrosive wei....

Corrosive on paint and copper...

 

[Izso]

i wouldnt try brake fluid....


but if i got a whole lot of glycol (ethylene glycol) then maybe i'll try using it in pure form...

You can't. ethylene glycol by itself is corrosive I think. And the heat transfer properties is poor if I remember my chemistry 101.

well...since u were saying brake fluid...

here is what i found:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluid
DOT Brake Fluid vs. Mineral Oil - and the Winner is.. | Epic Bleed Solutions


DOT3 brake fluid boiling temp was exactly at 190degree C...which makes the evan waterless coolant sounds pretty much like a brake fluid...


plus brake fluid also content GLYCOL which is also happens to be content of a coolant

Aiyo.. it's not brake fluid + ethylene glycol la. It's probably some petroleum based chemical mix with ethylene glycol la.

 

[Veloc]

Waterless coolant sound very appealing due to the fact that it can minimise rust issues to almost zero. But I am having reservations as to what chemicals are they using that has to ability to match the specific heat capacity and specific latent heat of water. Up till now, nothing beats water in terms of cooling. But I'm waiting for the famed myth-buster sifu for his review

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

Waterless coolant sound very appealing due to the fact that it can minimise rust issues to almost zero. But I am having reservations as to what chemicals are they using that has to ability to match the specific heat capacity and specific latent heat of water. Up till now, nothing beats water in terms of cooling. But I'm waiting for the famed myth-buster sifu for his review

i think from previous comment saying that faster engine warm-up shows that it has less than water thermal capacity.....but probably since a good working fan/radiator able to cope with that, should be no problem for that

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You can't. ethylene glycol by itself is corrosive I think. And the heat transfer properties is poor if I remember my chemistry 101.



Aiyo.. it's not brake fluid + ethylene glycol la. It's probably some petroleum based chemical mix with ethylene glycol la.

i was halfway correct:

see more futher discussion about evans and similar coolant


Waterless Coolant

http://contrails.free.fr/temp/NPG+_MSDS.PDF

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All you wanted to know about Evans NPG+ (MSDS)!! - RX7Club.com


Evans Waterless Coolant | Interesting Articles | Bob Is The Oil Guy

 

[Veloc]

You can't. ethylene glycol by itself is corrosive I think. And the heat transfer properties is poor if I remember my chemistry 101.



Aiyo.. it's not brake fluid + ethylene glycol la. It's probably some petroleum based chemical mix with ethylene glycol la.

Gosh is it corrosive?? Never knew that. Anyways, I've seen some brands that are slightly more expensive using propylene glycol now.

 

[marv3]

This Evans Waterless Coolant sounds like a really good product. But i have to agree, it is really expensive for a coolant. RM600 to do the whole thing. And if anything happens which requires a top-up, is another RM300 a bottle. That damn painful. But where to get it in Malaysia?

What about that Engine Ice? Where to get it and how much does it cost?

 

[vr2turbo]

Can Try Lubegard Kool It also.....

 

[DanzEterna]

if change water pump need to pay rm300 for top up?

 

[vr2turbo]

if change water pump need to pay rm300 for top up?

RM300 for a fill, so if change water pump make sure collect everything. Spill some and not enough got to buy to top up....lol

 

[Izso]

Waterless coolant sound very appealing due to the fact that it can minimise rust issues to almost zero. But I am having reservations as to what chemicals are they using that has to ability to match the specific heat capacity and specific latent heat of water. Up till now, nothing beats water in terms of cooling. But I'm waiting for the famed myth-buster sifu for his review

I managed to get my hands on a laser thermometer and it's pretty accurate. I have ideas on how to test this but i don't have the budget to buy a RM300 bottle of Evans for testing. And no I'm not referring to myself as the famed mythbuster, just have ideas.

This Evans Waterless Coolant sounds like a really good product. But i have to agree, it is really expensive for a coolant. RM600 to do the whole thing. And if anything happens which requires a top-up, is another RM300 a bottle. That damn painful. But where to get it in Malaysia?

What about that Engine Ice? Where to get it and how much does it cost?

Can Try Lubegard Kool It also.....

Lubeguard kool and Engine Ice is like Permacools premix. These are already premixed coolants from what I can make out in the website. Meaning they are glycol based products mixed with water. Engine Ice is Propylene glycol mixed, Permacool is ethylene glycol mixed, Evans has is both propylene glycol and ethylene glycol but oil based somehow. Not sure.

Glycols generally are good conductors of heat but are flammable. So not sure how that works for us as a coolant.

Evans has a distributor in KL, forgot the name. Need to dig out the name card I took the other day.

if change water pump need to pay rm300 for top up?

Not exactly, they sell in 4L bottles, since each bottle is RM300 then yes. But it's not per top-up. However if installed correctly, there shouldn't be any need to topup if there's no catastrophic failure in the engine head gasket or hoses.

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Gosh is it corrosive?? Never knew that. Anyways, I've seen some brands that are slightly more expensive using propylene glycol now.

in its pure form it is I think. premixed it isn't but it still will break down due to the water combination, hence the need to change radiator water every now and then.