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Mitsubishi Airtrek turbo 2004 - Car cannot start and the system keep reset when I switch on the engine. Anyone face this problem before..?? if yes, please contact me: 012-4981238 and I'm from Penang and now help needed from expert to narrow down my car problem. Btw, I did changed Ari-flow Sensor, idle Sensor 6 months ago....
 

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did damaged to starter, but already fixed n changed the part a month ago.... As you know the original car key there got sensor right, we only can switch n start the engine after the sensor detected(beeps sound trigger when detected the sensor). Now, the problem like when turn the key n the car try to start the engine, but somehow the system look like detected something, cut off the electric n reset the sensor detection again. It wont allow me.to.start engine...
 

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did damaged to starter, but already fixed n changed the part a month ago.... As you know the original car key there got sensor right, we only can switch n start the engine after the sensor detected(beeps sound trigger when detected the sensor). Now, the problem like when turn the key n the car try to start the engine, but somehow the system look like detected something, cut off the electric n reset the sensor detection again. It wont allow me.to.start engine...
i think you better explain everything in detail..... the way you have described things is very confusing... right terms should be used otherwise we over here would be making incorrect assumptions.

1)"cut off the electric"
-please explain what do you mean... whole car goes off? radio, trip meter all reset? cause thats what cutting off supply means. Complete cutoff.

2)"n reset the sensor detection again"
-i dont understand.

3)"beeps sound trigger when detected the sensor"
-also unclear what you are referring to... do you mean the ignition key reminder?
if yes, that means nothing.. its just something that detects the presence of a key

4)"original car key there got sensor"
- do you mean immobalizer, if yes and is not working, it does not 'cut electric'. all it does is not engage the starter.
-if this is the case... wiremen can bypass it alltogether or you can go back to mitsu to get a replacement... prepare a fat wallet
 
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did damaged to starter, but already fixed n changed the part a month ago.... As you know the original car key there got sensor right, we only can switch n start the engine after the sensor detected(beeps sound trigger when detected the sensor). Now, the problem like when turn the key n the car try to start the engine, but somehow the system look like detected something, cut off the electric n reset the sensor detection again. It wont allow me.to.start engine...
It does sound like an immobilizer issue. Best take it back to Mitsu SC. You can call your insurer's towing service. I believe it's free
 

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now car at workshop, they said not electric supply to starter even switch the key on, found the battery going low n low... still checking what is the problem now.... if anyone face the issue before, please call me...
Send to Mit SC, did plan before if still cannot fix inthese 2 weeks will send there... thanks your advise....
Btw, anyone know where got expert workshop for This type of car on Butterworth/BM?
 
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now car at workshop, they said not electric supply to starter even switch the key on, found the battery going low n low... still checking what is the problem now.... if anyone face the issue before, please call me...
Send to Mit SC, did plan before if still cannot fix inthese 2 weeks will send there... thanks your advise....
Btw, anyone know where got expert workshop for This type of car on Butterworth/BM?
Last time i exp similar problem on a waja.when i try to start, all light will either flicker or everything will shut off. If i kept trying, it will shut off when the key is at ON position.

What i do is remove the fuse one bh one and try starting the car.The car still refuse to start when all fuses have been remove leaving just the ecu and tcu fuse. hence it must be the starter as that is the only thing receiving current both at ON and Start. replace the starter and my problem is solved.
 

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Last time i exp similar problem on a waja.when i try to start, all light will either flicker or everything will shut off. If i kept trying, it will shut off when the key is at ON position.

What i do is remove the fuse one bh one and try starting the car.The car still refuse to start when all fuses have been remove leaving just the ecu and tcu fuse. hence it must be the starter as that is the only thing receiving current both at ON and Start. replace the starter and my problem is solved.
I agree with Bro gunnerzz. Since your starter was recently repaired/replaced, that would a fair place to start tracing
 

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maybe by default is KL, anyway I'm from Butterworth. Again, do you know where got formen know how to dismantle EMO sensor(that sensor on start switch area)?
 
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wireman checked n found te fuel pump n engine no electric supply, not sure ECU cut off or not? is there anyway to unlock?
 

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maybe by default is KL, anyway I'm from Butterworth. Again, do you know where got formen know how to dismantle EMO sensor(that sensor on start switch area)?
wireman checked n found te fuel pump n engine no electric supply, not sure ECU cut off or not? is there anyway to unlock?
bro, i duno where to point correct workshop instead please go sc. Guessing here and there will give you more headache and $$.
 

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bypas the emo, still cant start n formen found engine pressure not enough to start... is change engine is needed? cause formen ask to change engine.... got better advise?
 

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Bro, I hate to say this so please excuse me. How did it go from an electrical issue to an engine one?

Your initial problem was engine cannot start. Large power drain and ecu/immobilizer resets. Then later it was fuel pump and ecu not receiving current. How did it suddenly become 'engine pressure not enough to start'

I mean no disrespect to your mechanic but from the flow of events, I currently have little to no confidence in him.
Later after change engine still got same issue, then what? Will he then suggest change car?

Please take the car and go to another mechanic for a second opinion.
 
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bypas the emo, still cant start n formen found engine pressure not enough to start... is change engine is needed? cause formen ask to change engine.... got better advise?
i agree with parakey.... get a 2nd opinion, frankly nothing makes much sense....

if u seriously really want to get in depth into troubleshooting, you have to explain exactly whats happening....

Your mechanic has to know what's he doing and thus far, and based on your descriptions so far, i have a suspicion he does not know how to troubleshoot, only transplant. What happens if a similar issue pops up? start replacing more bits? that's plain ridiculous

engine pressure... whats that got to do with an engine starting.... even with 0 oil pressure, your car will start. It won't live long, but it will start.
 

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waaaa when a foreman man tell you change engine you better take ur car and lari kuat kuat liao. First time i heard this type of sorhai comment asking to tukar engine. you better change foreman la. If you keep using him you sure hailat wan. Sorry I tak belajar banyak like the other so kenot discuss technikal term but i can tell you this panchat mech no good la. Bring to service center la
 

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