4G63 EVO III performance upgrade advice needed

[jegvd]

hi all,


Need you guys advice. My fren plan to upgrade his EVO 3 engine performance.Current modification:

-EVO 3 engine with HKS 272 cam
-Emanage with turbo module
-standard turbine +38mm external wastegate

He plan to upgrade to 420HP. Is it possilble to upgrade to with standard internals(piston,conrods and etc) Maybe with below items added:

-bigger turbine(withstand 450hp)
-44mm external wastegate
-1.8mm metalgasket
-extra injector(pls advice the needed injector CC)
-FRP
-fine emanage+turbo module tuning.

PLS ADVICE..........

 

[Mr. Yanz]

hi all,


Need you guys advice. My fren plan to upgrade his EVO 3 engine performance.Current modification:

-EVO 3 engine with HKS 272 cam
-Emanage with turbo module
-standard turbine +38mm external wastegate

He plan to upgrade to 420HP. Is it possilble to upgrade to with standard internals(piston,conrods and etc) Maybe with below items added:

-bigger turbine(withstand 450hp)
-44mm external wastegate
-1.8mm metalgasket
-extra injector(pls advice the needed injector CC)
-FRP
-fine emanage+turbo module tuning.

PLS ADVICE..........

Yup its proven stock engine cant get those number ..

But when its reach 400HP barier stock piston especially EVO 3 .. piston ring break and the center piston between piston ring also crack .. too much preasure .. yes you can archieve those number but i think its not worth it to sacrifice your engine .. get forged piston and just push your engine to limit :D

My Setting before my piston worn ..

Evo 3 all stock internal.
Hi Cam
GT3582 Turbo
1.5 Metal Gasket
1.4 boost
MoTeC M4

422WHP

Previous Setting ..

Evo 3 all stock internal.
Hi Cam
TD05H Evo 2 Turbo
1.5 Metal Gasket
1.0 boost
MoTeC M4

293WHP

Please view this thread ... might be you intrested

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/engine-and-performance/262966-motec-m4-pro-for-sale.html

 

[jinkl]

hi all,


Need you guys advice. My fren plan to upgrade his EVO 3 engine performance.Current modification:

-EVO 3 engine with HKS 272 cam
-Emanage with turbo module
-standard turbine +38mm external wastegate

He plan to upgrade to 420HP. Is it possilble to upgrade to with standard internals(piston,conrods and etc) Maybe with below items added:

-bigger turbine(withstand 450hp)
-44mm external wastegate
-1.8mm metalgasket
-extra injector(pls advice the needed injector CC)
-FRP
-fine emanage+turbo module tuning.

PLS ADVICE..........

i suggest ditch the emanage if u r heading towards 400hp+
injector 850cc should be enuff
errr not sure wht is FRP
u dnt need 44mm wastegate, run the 38mm first n see if it creeps
evo3 is a high compression engine , not suitable for high boosting unless u r running higher octane

ehehehe, ask mr yanz :P he is a sifu in evo3

 

[Mr. Yanz]

i suggest ditch the emanage if u r heading towards 400hp+
injector 850cc should be enuff
errr not sure wht is FRP
u dnt need 44mm wastegate, run the 38mm first n see if it creeps
evo3 is a high compression engine , not suitable for high boosting unless u r running higher octane

ehehehe, ask mr yanz :P he is a sifu in evo3

hehe ditch the emanage and get my motec already on auction ahhha .. promote lagi ..

yap correct definitly 800++ injector to archieve your target ... :P

haih not sifu laa .. apa la u .. just from my experience on my car ler ..

 

[rakesh_v6]

e3 engin with HKS hicam 272 with TDO5
38mm wastegate
using haltech and boosting at 1.2bar
HP estimation 3++

does this make sense ? and if i would like to get more HP wat r the things that i shall do ?

please advice otai2

 

[jinkl]

e3 engin with HKS hicam 272 with TDO5
38mm wastegate
using haltech and boosting at 1.2bar
HP estimation 3++

does this make sense ? and if i would like to get more HP wat r the things that i shall do ?

please advice otai2

hehehe can try la :D , dyno first la, then can know where u r standing

 

[Amer Conn]

wowwweeeee.....nowadays stock 270hp cannot tahan already..everyone want to increase their hp..

 

[Mr. Yanz]

wowwweeeee.....nowadays stock 270hp cannot tahan already..everyone want to increase their hp..

dont talk org lain laa .. u pun sama .. 400WHP on stock e2 engine

 

[jegvd]

hihihi...

anyway, regarding the 800cc injectors, this is for the extra injectors rite? i still maintain current 510cc injectors+ 1 pc of 800cc injectors?

 

[rakesh_v6]

change ur current injectors from 510 to 800 and u can see the changes

 

[Havok_KiD]

guys...just to get ya feedback....currently i am running 2.2l crank with 87mm pistons in a evo 2 engine with a ar.50 garret turbine
my question is ..shall i used 272, 280 or 288 cams and whats the best cams to use??

 

[ftzone]

it depends what are your driving style and powerband expectation when selecting the degree of your cams... the higher the degree of the cams the idling will become worst due to valve overlap. If you are fine for the poor idling or high idling RPM (say 2k rpm) you should select the highest available for most power at top end rpm. but for street use? 272 should be good enough.

but i really respect you guys with >400hp evo3 engine in a proton... nice to drive on the street ah? i tried once.. and i find it bad on normal street speeds. handling lagi cannot say... brakes cannot match up la... driveshaft pecah la...mounting pecah la.. aiyooo.. just horrible. unless u make so much power for side betting la... not driving on street to go to the market.

 

[Mr. Yanz]

it depends what are your driving style and powerband expectation when selecting the degree of your cams... the higher the degree of the cams the idling will become worst due to valve overlap. If you are fine for the poor idling or high idling RPM (say 2k rpm) you should select the highest available for most power at top end rpm. but for street use? 272 should be good enough.

but i really respect you guys with >400hp evo3 engine in a proton... nice to drive on the street ah? i tried once.. and it drove horrible on normal street speeds. handling lagi cannot say... brakes cannot match up la... driveshaft pecah la...mounting pecah la.. aiyooo.. just horrible.

woohooo yup very hard to drive .. but we just addicted to G haha .. G G G G G

 

[zurinazwan]

BRO TRY TO PUT THIS LA IN SIDE....

TURBO:Billet turbo(MR Turbo)
CAM:Jun
FULE PUMP:walbro
CONROD:Carillo
ECU:stand alone LA(LT10s 4ever)
PISTON:WISECO
INJECTOR:RC1000cc
CLUTCH:X-trEAM
sure u can get 450bhp la bro......huhuhuhu yg penting KEPALA AGONG mesti tebal ma

 

[Havok_KiD]

hahahaa like how MR.Yanz said..we are just to used with it....to me having a 400hp in proton is normal and used to the handling....i mean no 1 whack their car like mad person further more in such modded in town...unless ur in a money battle....

anyway what is the cost for a billet turbo..many say its better then GT series turbo

FTzone as for idling i am fine with high rpm or the looping sound....atleast i am still gona run highest also 288..my couz bro did full spec engine from aussie with 304 high cam...just imagine how is the idling...

 

[Havok_KiD]

lolz bro....sorry ler kita orang bukan mau race...saje syok layan aje....
anyway how much that turbo cost bro..might get 1 as well

 

[zurinazwan]

if tak salah 6 or 8k la bro......try to ask syahz 3rd gear performen house to know that turbo price

 

[jegvd]

how if i maintain my 510CC injectors and add another 1pc extra 700cc injectors? is it sufficient enough for 400hp?

 

[jinkl]

how if i maintain my 510CC injectors and add another 1pc extra 700cc injectors? is it sufficient enough for 400hp?

nah confirm tak cukup

 

[Mr. Yanz]

how if i maintain my 510CC injectors and add another 1pc extra 700cc injectors? is it sufficient enough for 400hp?

adeh .. please laa just use large injector .. no need extra extra .. 1 time invesment laa .. from what i've learned injector and fuel pump please use the new one .. am i correct ??