1jz E36 BMW frankensteining

[Mitevo7]

I am joining the 1JZ bandwagon, with my E46 BMW 318ci . However the boost will be maintained as it is, target HP is 343hp (M3 E46 spec). Unfortunately, only 4 speed autobox is available for now, so i am not going manual anytime.

Q1: From online sources, many people commented the VVTI Single Turbo model is better and tougher than non VVTI Twin Turbo model. Just want to know how true it this.

Q2: I am looking for 18' inch wheels and using stock 330i/328i brakes, together with 330i rear axle and rear differential. Are these setup sufficient? Or i need to go with 4pots / 6 pots brake kits?

Q3: What size of tyres you guys would suggest in terms of balancing the ration between safety, performance and price?

Expected to get my car running in 2 months time. So more information the merrier :)

Thanks,
Ken

 

[leinnz]

he will have the last laugh when the build is done. dont underestimate

 

[ixeo]

he will have the last laugh when the build is done. dont underestimate

Keyword being "when".

When he's in a wheelchair and his son completes the build?

 

[leinnz]

Keyword being "when".

When he's in a wheelchair and his son completes the build?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

I am joining the 1JZ bandwagon, with my E46 BMW 318ci . However the boost will be maintained as it is, target HP is 343hp (M3 E46 spec). Unfortunately, only 4 speed autobox is available for now, so i am not going manual anytime.

Q1: From online sources, many people commented the VVTI Single Turbo model is better and tougher than non VVTI Twin Turbo model. Just want to know how true it this.

Q2: I am looking for 18' inch wheels and using stock 330i/328i brakes, together with 330i rear axle and rear differential. Are these setup sufficient? Or i need to go with 4pots / 6 pots brake kits?

Q3: What size of tyres you guys would suggest in terms of balancing the ration between safety, performance and price?

Expected to get my car running in 2 months time. So more information the merrier :)

Thanks,
Ken

343whp...u need upgraded turbo and tune...

vvti single turbo have better driveability (smoother and easier to drive) as well as better fc a bit compared to older non vvt version...

as for brakes...i would say having 4pot brembo swap is recommended... even on my 2xxwhp awd car also sometimes feels not sufficent during brake due to speed and chassis weight...

 

[gunnerzz]

343whp...u need upgraded turbo and tune...

vvti single turbo have better driveability (smoother and easier to drive) as well as better fc a bit compared to older non vvt version...

as for brakes...i would say having 4pot brembo swap is recommended... even on my 2xxwhp awd car also sometimes feels not sufficent during brake due to speed and chassis weight...

I guess thats the norm for an average car, its design to be driven by average people.
Once pushed near the edge,something always end up wanting more.

Even my humble EX5 with few hp...i really wish for a front disc at times.

Eh,when is the ETA for this #BMWsolongwaitingforrevealevenafternewgomenissworninwilliteverberevealed

 

[vr2turbo]

I heard near final touches but still need lots of work......lol

 

[Izso]

Saw a beautiful white Evo 8
Driven
Moving
On the road

Looked absolutely stock.

Oh did I mention it was moving? On the road?

Right. For 80k or more too right? Jeez.. dude give it a rest already.

Keyword being "when".

When he's in a wheelchair and his son completes the build?

Like I said - give it a rest. I don't own a workshop otherwise I'd have it done in a week.

I am joining the 1JZ bandwagon, with my E46 BMW 318ci . However the boost will be maintained as it is, target HP is 343hp (M3 E46 spec). Unfortunately, only 4 speed autobox is available for now, so i am not going manual anytime.

I think to get that kinda power you need a bigger turbo. And how you gonna upgrade a 1.8 to 2.5? It's not going to be legal or your reg card is gonna be one of those non-transferrable ones.

Q1: From online sources, many people commented the VVTI Single Turbo model is better and tougher than non VVTI Twin Turbo model. Just want to know how true it this.

Q2: I am looking for 18' inch wheels and using stock 330i/328i brakes, together with 330i rear axle and rear differential. Are these setup sufficient? Or i need to go with 4pots / 6 pots brake kits?

Q3: What size of tyres you guys would suggest in terms of balancing the ration between safety, performance and price?

1. No. VVTI is not as tough as the non-VVTI ones. Regarding the turbos, makes no difference.
2. Yes plenty good sufficient but good luck finding a 330i diff. And get 4pot for now, but if you can afford 6 why not?
3. I'm was using 245/40/17 on my rear so the rough equivalent is 245/30/18? I dunno, but the clearance would be an issue.

 

[parakey]

together with 330i rear axle and rear differential.

I dont think the 330's diff is designed to take that amount of torque. Bear in mind, they also come in different final drive ratios.Perhaps consider getting an M3 diff

You might also want to consider reinforcing the subframe & damper mounting points

 

[Izso]

I dont think the 330's diff is designed to take that amount of torque. Bear in mind, they also come in different final drive ratios.Perhaps consider getting an M3 diff

You might also want to consider reinforcing the subframe & damper mounting points

It can la. The 318 one on the other hand cannot

 

[vr2turbo]

3. I'm was using 245/40/17 on my rear so the rough equivalent is 245/30/18? I dunno, but the clearance would be an issue.

If 245/40R17 then need 245/35R18

 

[ixeo]

Right. For 80k or more too right? Jeez.. dude give it a rest already.

https://www.mudah.my/Mitsubishi+LANCER+Evo+8-67530025.htm

where got 80k. 70k only ma.

Like I said - give it a rest. I don't own a workshop otherwise I'd have it done in a week.

ok, somebody not feeling the fun of being poked at anymore.

 

[stupidcar]

1. No. VVTI is not as tough as the non-VVTI ones. Regarding the turbos, makes no difference.

Really? Its the same thing, but VVTi gives u better torque curve. However a lot of people are lazy esp tuners, they remove the VVTi.

 

[ixeo]

Izso: don’t angry la. I buy you ice scream leng mou?

 

[Mitevo7]

343whp...u need upgraded turbo and tune...

vvti single turbo have better driveability (smoother and easier to drive) as well as better fc a bit compared to older non vvt version...

as for brakes...i would say having 4pot brembo swap is recommended... even on my 2xxwhp awd car also sometimes feels not sufficent during brake due to speed and chassis weight...

BMW e46 M3 is not 343whp ... Seen a dyno by an English guy on his manual E46 m3, the power figure at the wheels is around 302whp. So for the 1JZ automatic to reach that whp, i think it's unnecessary, if i can make 280whp is consider damn 9 fast, torque should be damn 9 enough to catch up to it (not even dream of overtaking it).

 

[Mitevo7]

Right. For 80k or more too right? Jeez.. dude give it a rest already.



Like I said - give it a rest. I don't own a workshop otherwise I'd have it done in a week.



I think to get that kinda power you need a bigger turbo. And how you gonna upgrade a 1.8 to 2.5? It's not going to be legal or your reg card is gonna be one of those non-transferrable ones.



1. No. VVTI is not as tough as the non-VVTI ones. Regarding the turbos, makes no difference.
2. Yes plenty good sufficient but good luck finding a 330i diff. And get 4pot for now, but if you can afford 6 why not?
3. I'm was using 245/40/17 on my rear so the rough equivalent is 245/30/18? I dunno, but the clearance would be an issue.

I will go through the proper inspection and get it endorse, lots of E46 with this swap are legally registered, mine should not be an issue, just ensure no cutting on the body and subframe.

Reason i choose VVTI model, simply its smoother to drive at lower rpm, fuel efficiency should be excellent. Toughness is for me to backside itchy increase the stock boost. By the way what is the stock boost for 1JZ?

Will a 325i/323i diff sufficient ?

6 pots damn expensive sia, may be i go for Sumitomo brake kit like i am having for my lancer.

245/30/18 looks like very thin? I am think of 225/40/18, is it too skinny ?

 

[Izso]

Really? Its the same thing, but VVTi gives u better torque curve. However a lot of people are lazy esp tuners, they remove the VVTi.

Yeah. For some reason the VVTI ones are never tuned for big horsepower. It's the non-VVTI ones that hit the high 500-800 ranges

Izso: don’t angry la. I buy you ice scream leng mou?

leng. But seriously it's frustrating enough with a lemon of a car that I've already spent money on. You know, that 70k evo is still a cash buy. I don't have that kinda cash leh so even if I wanted to I wouldn't have been able to afford it.

BMW e46 M3 is not 343whp ... Seen a dyno by an English guy on his manual E46 m3, the power figure at the wheels is around 302whp. So for the 1JZ automatic to reach that whp, i think it's unnecessary, if i can make 280whp is consider damn 9 fast, torque should be damn 9 enough to catch up to it (not even dream of overtaking it).

280 on the auto 1JZ is plenty. Also the 1JZ auto is a pretty strong GB too so if you wanted to push it to 300 it might be able to take it. but reliability would be questionable. Have you bought the car already?

 

[Izso]

I will go through the proper inspection and get it endorse, lots of E46 with this swap are legally registered, mine should not be an issue, just ensure no cutting on the body and subframe.

Reason i choose VVTI model, simply its smoother to drive at lower rpm, fuel efficiency should be excellent. Toughness is for me to backside itchy increase the stock boost. By the way what is the stock boost for 1JZ?

Will a 325i/323i diff sufficient ?

6 pots damn expensive sia, may be i go for Sumitomo brake kit like i am having for my lancer.

245/30/18 looks like very thin? I am think of 225/40/18, is it too skinny ?

The reason I say the swap will be hard is because it's more than 30% increase. I know of a lot of BMW converts with a "dibatalkan" or something on their reg cards and although road legal, they can't be transferred as is to a new owner. Mine was a 328i converted to a 1JZ, so there was a decrease in capacity from 2.7L to 2.5L and my reg card is clear and transferrable. There shouldn't be any cutting on the body or subframe for a 1JZ fitment. There are plenty of aftermarket mounting kits, gearbox adapter kits and all for our kind of car. Let me know if you need clarification on anything, I've learnt through the painful way on how the car works, registered, endorsed, built and all that.

The auto diff and manual diff have different final drives. I am using an auto 328i diff now so the RPM at high speeds is a bit high for my 5speed manual but for an auto slushbox should be just nice. If you find any manual diffs let me know - I wanna swap mine out.

Stock boost for the 1JZ should be 0.3bar, very conservative. Up it to 0.8bar and you'll have a very nice to drive stock 1JZ without any serious mods.

Have you bought your engine yet?

 

[Mitevo7]

The reason I say the swap will be hard is because it's more than 30% increase. I know of a lot of BMW converts with a "dibatalkan" or something on their reg cards and although road legal, they can't be transferred as is to a new owner. Mine was a 328i converted to a 1JZ, so there was a decrease in capacity from 2.7L to 2.5L and my reg card is clear and transferrable. There shouldn't be any cutting on the body or subframe for a 1JZ fitment. There are plenty of aftermarket mounting kits, gearbox adapter kits and all for our kind of car. Let me know if you need clarification on anything, I've learnt through the painful way on how the car works, registered, endorsed, built and all that.

The auto diff and manual diff have different final drives. I am using an auto 328i diff now so the RPM at high speeds is a bit high for my 5speed manual but for an auto slushbox should be just nice. If you find any manual diffs let me know - I wanna swap mine out.

Stock boost for the 1JZ should be 0.3bar, very conservative. Up it to 0.8bar and you'll have a very nice to drive stock 1JZ without any serious mods.

Have you bought your engine yet?

Yes i have bought the half cut, it's a 2001 Toyota Crown from engine to gearbox and long shaft. I have a mechanic did the conversion before, so i am counting on him to complete the swap.

What's the estimated power with 0.8 bar of boost ?

 

[Mitevo7]

Yeah. For some reason the VVTI ones are never tuned for big horsepower. It's the non-VVTI ones that hit the high 500-800 ranges


leng. But seriously it's frustrating enough with a lemon of a car that I've already spent money on. You know, that 70k evo is still a cash buy. I don't have that kinda cash leh so even if I wanted to I wouldn't have been able to afford it.


280 on the auto 1JZ is plenty. Also the 1JZ auto is a pretty strong GB too so if you wanted to push it to 300 it might be able to take it. but reliability would be questionable. Have you bought the car already?

I have bought the half cut, my 318ci is dismantling in progress. I think i will maintain it on 280whp, plenty for me to hoon around.