Honda Civic FD2 VS Toyota Camry VS Honda Accord

[Izso]

:hmmmm: Only the 2.4 would drive better I think

Then Honda should be better then Camry.....

Actually, before I settled for my current car, I went to test a lot of different cars and based on my old post, you all know how long it took for me to settle for a car right? I am damn nitpicky.

Cousin has the Japan 2.5 camry, test drove that and I didn't like how heavy it felt. I expected shitloads of torque but it had mid to high power. Low end torque wasn't there and the FC was scary la. Too expensive to buy.

Friend lent me his Camry 2.0 2008 M'sia edition, looks nicer than the Japan one - but the car is too heavy for the engine imho. I suspect my Sylphy would outdrag this Camry anytime. Very willowy handling (probably because old suspension). Too expensive to buy too. 5 year old car still needed 100k. That's bloody insane.

Test drove the Accordana model Honda Accord at the 2nd hand car salesman place and found a lot of weird problems like wobbling, squeaking noise and all so didn't like that car. Never tested a new car before but can't afford it new anyway.

Test drove a friends Forte 2.0 and 1.6 - this one I seriously liked. Almost bought the new 1.6 at 80k+. Wifey didn't like the rear seating space, said the Myvi had more space. In a way she was right. So didn't buy.

Want to test drive the K5, never had the chance. Anyone got a K5 for me to test drive?

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Actually, before I settled for my current car, I went to test a lot of different cars and based on my old post, you all know how long it took for me to settle for a car right? I am damn nitpicky.

Cousin has the Japan 2.5 camry, test drove that and I didn't like how heavy it felt. I expected shitloads of torque but it had mid to high power. Low end torque wasn't there and the FC was scary la. Too expensive to buy.

Friend lent me his Camry 2.0 2008 M'sia edition, looks nicer than the Japan one - but the car is too heavy for the engine imho. I suspect my Sylphy would outdrag this Camry anytime. Very willowy handling (probably because old suspension). Too expensive to buy too. 5 year old car still needed 100k. That's bloody insane.

Test drove the Accordana model Honda Accord at the 2nd hand car salesman place and found a lot of weird problems like wobbling, squeaking noise and all so didn't like that car. Never tested a new car before but can't afford it new anyway.

Test drove a friends Forte 2.0 and 1.6 - this one I seriously liked. Almost bought the new 1.6 at 80k+. Wifey didn't like the rear seating space, said the Myvi had more space. In a way she was right. So didn't buy.

Want to test drive the K5, never had the chance. Anyone got a K5 for me to test drive?

My brother had one K5. The ride was rather bumpy probably because it was running on 18 inches. Compared to another car like Altis (10th generation) for example, Altis feels more comfortable.

 

[Izso]

My brother had one K5. The ride was rather bumpy probably because it was running on 18 inches. Compared to another car like Altis (10th generation) for example, Altis feels more comfortable.

Actually, it's probably the 18" that's causing the bumpiness.

My own car from 195/65/15 changed to 215/45/17 made a humongous difference in comfort. Like magic carpet to adjustables difference. That's pretty significant.

 

[DanzEterna]

try the YF sonata as well, at that time Hyundai offered me like rm20k discount for their 2012 stock pre-reg car.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

i saw Honda Accord 8th on the road, saw with bodykit and sport rims where it makes looks sportier than camry (which with body kit n sports rims also)...

i am curious if there is any good about Honda Accord 8th Gen? almost the same as camry?

Perhaps, test drive both cars, will not bring any big diff to me, but what i am really concerned are the maintenance and alo the FC. any owner out there can say some words, please?

and Hyundai I40...damn sexy dude.. but same goes to other cars, concern about the maintenance and also the FC.. haiz..

If really maintenance and FC is ur concern, just get the Toyota which is on the safer side. Cars like Hyundai and Kia, lots have been saying, cars is cheap, parts not. Then like gunners said parts like Honda parts price? Might as well get Honda then

Just go for Camry if u r not the kind who is into performance or hardcore speeding and etcs. If u just want a family car that is comfortable to ferry ppl around. Camry will do or the Sylphy. Design wise i prefer Camry though.

Actually, before I settled for my current car, I went to test a lot of different cars and based on my old post, you all know how long it took for me to settle for a car right? I am damn nitpicky.

Want to test drive the K5, never had the chance. Anyone got a K5 for me to test drive?

Reason being that your thread took that long, not mainly your fault but also partly cuz when a guy buys a car and wife have 1 or 2 say for it, it usually take that long

For us guys, see everything okay, buy liao

My brother had one K5. The ride was rather bumpy probably because it was running on 18 inches. Compared to another car like Altis (10th generation) for example, Altis feels more comfortable.

Toyota meant for comfort but the review for the Cerato VS Altis VS Mazda 3 latest model, Cerato has the most HP but then the steering wheel is just too power steering that you can't really feel the road or the steering according to the feedback of those reviews. Altis is the winner though in terms of overall.

While for Almera VS Vios VS City, City is the winner. Almera sucks the most in terms of overall LOL!

 

[DanzEterna]

when choosing a car don't ever let yr missus make the decision, unless its her car.
before I bought my car, my wife wanted cream interior + rear aircond vents for the kids. she thought I would go for camry, accord or sonata, yes eventually all those cars was on my mind.

ended up choosing e90, at least it fits her criteria.
luckily I didn't bring back an evo7, if not must sleep in the living room for a very looong time

 

[gunnerzz]

kenvy11,
from yr post,i doubt that u will be able to appreciate the accord handling as u mention.
therefore,go for the camry and be done with it.
u can afford it why not right?
maintain it well andnit will be loyal to u.

what i would warn u when going for car with european dna is that u dont want to settle for anything less in the future.even a nerd without knowledge in car will appreciate european ride and handling.
if u drove older kia or hyundai,u will notice its all soft like the jap car.
now,its addictive.
at least the ride is.

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when choosing a car don't ever let yr missus make the decision, unless its her car.
before I bought my car, my wife wanted cream interior + rear aircond vents for the kids. she thought I would go for camry, accord or sonata, yes eventually all those cars was on my mind.

ended up choosing e90, at least it fits her criteria.
luckily I didn't bring back an evo7, if not must sleep in the living room for a very looong time

this my friend is the married petrol head punchline of the day.
come to think abt it...nothing is wrong with the evo.it got 4 door,large boot.
plus,people wont think bad seeing u sleep at the back seat of the evo.
it even elevate yr ranking in the petrolhead community.
i doubt any of us can brag that we 'sleep' with an evo7.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

kenvy11,
from yr post,i doubt that u will be able to appreciate the accord handling as u mention.
therefore,go for the camry and be done with it.
u can afford it why not right?
maintain it well andnit will be loyal to u.

what i would warn u when going for car with european dna is that u dont want to settle for anything less in the future.even a nerd without knowledge in car will appreciate european ride and handling.
if u drove older kia or hyundai,u will notice its all soft like the jap car.
now,its addictive.
at least the ride is.

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this my friend is the married petrol head punchline of the day.
come to think abt it...nothing is wrong with the evo.it got 4 door,large boot.
plus,people wont think bad seeing u sleep at the back seat of the evo.
it even elevate yr ranking in the petrolhead community.
i doubt any of us can brag that we 'sleep' with an evo7.

If he has to sleep in the living room for a very long time, I guess his meaning is that, he is gonna be really really 'dry' for a long long time

 

[vr2turbo]

Test drove the Accordana model Honda Accord at the 2nd hand car salesman place and found a lot of weird problems like wobbling, squeaking noise and all so didn't like that car. Never tested a new car before but can't afford it new anyway.

Maybe because is Accordana and not Accord.......hahhahahhaha

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try the YF sonata as well, at that time Hyundai offered me like rm20k discount for their 2012 stock pre-reg car.

Buy second hand, let first owner loose more mah!.....

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Reason being that your thread took that long, not mainly your fault but also partly cuz when a guy buys a car and wife have 1 or 2 say for it, it usually take that long

For us guys, see everything okay, buy liao

That is why you kena lemon........faster cabut.......

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when choosing a car don't ever let yr missus make the decision, unless its her car.
before I bought my car, my wife wanted cream interior + rear aircond vents for the kids. she thought I would go for camry, accord or sonata, yes eventually all those cars was on my mind.

ended up choosing e90, at least it fits her criteria.
luckily I didn't bring back an evo7, if not must sleep in the living room for a very looong time

For me, her car is hers, mine I decide mah!......

 

[stupidcar]

Want to test drive the K5, never had the chance. Anyone got a K5 for me to test drive?

Let's TT at Kia lol. I love the K5's look.

when choosing a car don't ever let yr missus make the decision, unless its her car.
before I bought my car, my wife wanted cream interior + rear aircond vents for the kids. she thought I would go for camry, accord or sonata, yes eventually all those cars was on my mind.

ended up choosing e90, at least it fits her criteria.
luckily I didn't bring back an evo7, if not must sleep in the living room for a very looong time

I actually thought of routing an extra hose to the back from the leg aircond. :hahaha:
Evo 7 back very spacious ma.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Maybe because is Accordana and not Accord.......hahhahahhaha

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Buy second hand, let first owner loose more mah!.....

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That is why you kena lemon........faster cabut.......

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For me, her car is hers, mine I decide mah!......

Mana ada lemon lol! Is a good car.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Actually, it's probably the 18" that's causing the bumpiness.

My own car from 195/65/15 changed to 215/45/17 made a humongous difference in comfort. Like magic carpet to adjustables difference. That's pretty significant.

If that is the case, can we say that Inspira using stock 16" had better ride comfort than Lancer GT running on stock 18"? But handling and stability wise, Lancer GT wins?

Toyota meant for comfort but the review for the Cerato VS Altis VS Mazda 3 latest model, Cerato has the most HP but then the steering wheel is just too power steering that you can't really feel the road or the steering according to the feedback of those reviews. Altis is the winner though in terms of overall.

While for Almera VS Vios VS City, City is the winner. Almera sucks the most in terms of overall LOL!

Well, generally most Toyota are leaned towards comfort. This is much like Mercedes Benz VS BMW. Toyota VS Honda.

when choosing a car don't ever let yr missus make the decision, unless its her car.
before I bought my car, my wife wanted cream interior + rear aircond vents for the kids. she thought I would go for camry, accord or sonata, yes eventually all those cars was on my mind.

ended up choosing e90, at least it fits her criteria.
luckily I didn't bring back an evo7, if not must sleep in the living room for a very looong time

But E90 got a sense of class, hehe.

 

[Izso]

Toyota meant for comfort but the review for the Cerato VS Altis VS Mazda 3 latest model, Cerato has the most HP but then the steering wheel is just too power steering that you can't really feel the road or the steering according to the feedback of those reviews. Altis is the winner though in terms of overall.

You doing your own comparison or you basing on the Driven conclusion? I disagree with their comparison. I'd give the Mazda full marks except for space. And Cerato full marks except for driving feel. And I'd give the new Altis full marks for looks only. Everything else give it 15% max. Old tech with new looks isn't really a fair comparison.

it even elevate yr ranking in the petrolhead community.

Somehow I this statement sadly true. But "ranking" drops instantly to zero the minute people find out you know nothing about the car or drive like a complete moron.

I personally would give the guy who drives a pristine flawless rebuilt Datsun 120Y who knows what he's talking about much higher points than an average joe driving some Evo.

If that is the case, can we say that Inspira using stock 16" had better ride comfort than Lancer GT running on stock 18"? But handling and stability wise, Lancer GT wins?

No la. Not necessary. Look at my tyre profile difference :

195/65/15
215/45/17

The amount of rubber there is significant la. Comfort vs low profile performance. So if the 18's were 225/35/18 vs 205/45/16 I honestly doubt there'd be too much difference in comfort. Performance will be obviously different because of the tyre width / weight / rolling resistance.

Even my 17's are way better than the 15's I had on my Wira. I corner faster in my boat of a ride than in my old Wira with suspension, bars and all. Same corners I'm familiar with I can go 20km/h easily faster than my Wira and the didn't even break a sweat. Need to push harder to make it slide.

Which I attribute to purely to my tyres width and longer wheel base.

 

[vr2turbo]

You doing your own comparison or you basing on the Driven conclusion? I disagree with their comparison. I'd give the Mazda full marks except for space. And Cerato full marks except for driving feel. And I'd give the new Altis full marks for looks only. Everything else give it 15% max. Old tech with new looks isn't really a fair comparison.



Somehow I this statement sadly true. But "ranking" drops instantly to zero the minute people find out you know nothing about the car or drive like a complete moron.

I personally would give the guy who drives a pristine flawless rebuilt Datsun 120Y who knows what he's talking about much higher points than an average joe driving some Evo.



No la. Not necessary. Look at my tyre profile difference :

195/65/15
215/45/17

The amount of rubber there is significant la. Comfort vs low profile performance. So if the 18's were 225/35/18 vs 205/45/16 I honestly doubt there'd be too much difference in comfort. Performance will be obviously different because of the tyre width / weight / rolling resistance.

Even my 17's are way better than the 15's I had on my Wira. I corner faster in my boat of a ride than in my old Wira with suspension, bars and all. Same corners I'm familiar with I can go 20km/h easily faster than my Wira and the didn't even break a sweat. Need to push harder to make it slide.

Which I attribute to purely to my tyres width and longer wheel base.

He is a Toyota fanatic mah! Likewise I was Honda for many years until VR came along...

Tyre wider by 20mm, bigger contact surface, soft rubber compound, Max performance category, lower profile already many advantages in performance.....

 

[Kyusuke_FD3S]

any common problems on toyota camry ?

 

[gunnerzz]

i wonder which car will kenny go for?

some people are loyal to one brand.u can see that when he/she keep owning one camry after another or one beemer after another.

for me,i does not have specific make but down to what feeling each vehicle gave me.i dont prefer vios dullness and honda city firm ride without positive handling effect.however i like the pajero which is spartan and has the handling of a tanker.
to me each car has its own character and communicate with u in different way.

its down to our personal preference really.some just want a car while some of us want 'a' car.

that is also why there are mix reaction to certain make and basher of certain make exist.

 

[6UE5t]

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Friend lent me his Camry 2.0 2008 M'sia edition, looks nicer than the Japan one - but the car is too heavy for the engine imho. I suspect my Sylphy would outdrag this Camry anytime. Very willowy handling (probably because old suspension). Too expensive to buy too. 5 year old car still needed 100k. That's bloody insane.
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Only in Malaysia big heavy sedans with puny 2.0 engines can sell like peanuts! I blame the stupid roadtax regulation for this! Even in Indonesia where traffic is much worse, these cars are not even offered in the market coz no one will buy it!

 

[stupidcar]

Only in Malaysia big heavy sedans with puny 2.0 engines can sell like peanuts! I blame the stupid roadtax regulation for this! Even in Indonesia where traffic is much worse, these cars are not even offered in the market coz no one will buy it!

Is it? Last time I see a lot of Innovas wor. Dont talk about 2.7 Fortuners la.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

You doing your own comparison or you basing on the Driven conclusion? I disagree with their comparison. I'd give the Mazda full marks except for space. And Cerato full marks except for driving feel. And I'd give the new Altis full marks for looks only. Everything else give it 15% max. Old tech with new looks isn't really a fair comparison.

Somehow I this statement sadly true. But "ranking" drops instantly to zero the minute people find out you know nothing about the car or drive like a complete moron.

I personally would give the guy who drives a pristine flawless rebuilt Datsun 120Y who knows what he's talking about much higher points than an average joe driving some Evo.

No la. Not necessary. Look at my tyre profile difference :

195/65/15
215/45/17

The amount of rubber there is significant la. Comfort vs low profile performance. So if the 18's were 225/35/18 vs 205/45/16 I honestly doubt there'd be too much difference in comfort. Performance will be obviously different because of the tyre width / weight / rolling resistance.

Even my 17's are way better than the 15's I had on my Wira. I corner faster in my boat of a ride than in my old Wira with suspension, bars and all. Same corners I'm familiar with I can go 20km/h easily faster than my Wira and the didn't even break a sweat. Need to push harder to make it slide.

Which I attribute to purely to my tyres width and longer wheel base.

Base on Driven review Have not test drive those 3. Only test drove Mazda 6 before. Didn't really like it. Altis only sat in to feel. (not moving)

Mazda 3, the dash design, not really a fan of it. External wise, yes the design is really not bad. Especially the rear.

He is a Toyota fanatic mah! Likewise I was Honda for many years until VR came along...

Tyre wider by 20mm, bigger contact surface, soft rubber compound, Max performance category, lower profile already many advantages in performance.....

That's one la but then all the while their cars such as Toyota and LEXUS they focus more on comfort wise. But seriously, the Lexus really hardly any windnoise. :top:

 

[ixeo]

any common problems on toyota camry ?

Common problems with Camry:
1. Uncleditis, people will assume you're an uncle.
2. After driving the Camry, you will become an uncle even if you are not.
3. Big penis syndrome, after driving Camry, most of your friends who drive Proton & Perodua are deemed poor or did-not-make-it-in-life, friends driving Vios barely made it, friends who drive BMW, Mercedes and anything more expensive than the Camry wasn't smart like you to save money for a Camry, which is cheap to maintain, parts widely available and its just a clever, practical choice.