Mivec 1.8 or GSR TURBO?

[henry4563]

i tried drive a 1.6 mivec before, its really fun! GSR is like, monster kind of power but once its slightly out of tune then it will start getting lag and lag. anyway thanks for the information :)

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

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I'm not saying about stock. Thanks.

Ok then even with a vr4 i/cooler, r u trying to saying mivec's acceleration is better?..[/QUOTE]

Maybe he's trying to say its more responsive?

 

[henry4563]

Ok then even with a vr4 i/cooler, r u trying to saying mivec's acceleration is better?..

Maybe he's trying to say its more responsive? [/QUOTE]

yeah, thats what im trying to say :)

 

[ehdrian]

Ok then even with a vr4 i/cooler, r u trying to saying mivec's acceleration is better?..

Maybe he's trying to say its more responsive? [/QUOTE]

NA with close ratios gb of cos more responsive than gsr..hehe..

 

[henry4563]

Maybe he's trying to say its more responsive?

NA with close ratios gb of cos more responsive than gsr..hehe..[/QUOTE]

hmm bro, to you, mivec 1.8 or GSR?

 

[ehdrian]

NA with close ratios gb of cos more responsive than gsr..hehe..

hmm bro, to you, mivec 1.8 or GSR?[/QUOTE]

i cant tell u cos i've not driven mivec1.8 b4, i've driven gsr with small side mount i/c, it's very responsive and torquey, i can overtake cars easily on the road at 5th gear at abt 60-70km/h without changing gear..

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

hmm bro, to you, mivec 1.8 or GSR?

i cant tell u cos i've not driven mivec1.8 b4, i've driven gsr with small side mount i/c, it's very responsive and torquey, i can overtake cars easily on the road at 5th gear at abt 60-70km/h without changing gear..[/QUOTE]

How about one with a bigger turbine/i.c/tuning?

I drove a GSR with a TD05 swap and an e-manage, the boost comes in late but when it does... *eh wheres all the other cars?*

I've yet to drive a MIVEC though. The GSR's I drove are all less responsive compared to NA's but the power, that cant be compared lah.

 

[ehdrian]

How about one with a bigger turbine/i.c/tuning?

I drove a GSR with a TD05 swap and an e-manage, the boost comes in late but when it does... *eh wheres all the other cars?*

I've yet to drive a MIVEC though. The GSR's I drove are all less responsive compared to NA's but the power, that cant be compared lah.[/QUOTE]

i'm using gt2560r on 93t, response sucks at low end, but better mid range lo..full boost 1bar at 4.5k rpm....power wise, hmm boleh la, not really dat impressive..

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

How about one with a bigger turbine/i.c/tuning?

I drove a GSR with a TD05 swap and an e-manage, the boost comes in late but when it does... *eh wheres all the other cars?*

I've yet to drive a MIVEC though. The GSR's I drove are all less responsive compared to NA's but the power, that cant be compared lah.

i'm using gt2560r on 93t, response sucks at low end, but better mid range lo..full boost 1bar at 4.5k rpm....power wise, hmm boleh la, not really dat impressive..[/QUOTE]

Hmm that nice, thats the same mounting as the T25 right? Haha whats your power? Tell only lah no need malu malu. I think in this whole thread i've got the lowest power among you all anyways

 

[ehdrian]

Hmm that nice, thats the same mounting as the T25 right? Haha whats your power? Tell only lah no need malu malu. I think in this whole thread i've got the lowest power among you all anyways [/QUOTE]

mounting same or not sure leh..hehe..240whp only at 1.2bar, too little leh dats y malu..nth 2 compare bro as long as we enjoy wat we do..i'm selling the car ade..haha

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

Hmm that nice, thats the same mounting as the T25 right? Haha whats your power? Tell only lah no need malu malu. I think in this whole thread i've got the lowest power among you all anyways

mounting same or not sure leh..hehe..240whp only at 1.2bar, too little leh dats y malu..nth 2 compare bro as long as we enjoy wat we do..i'm selling the car ade..haha[/QUOTE]

Hmm thats quite low right? How about your torque? Haha yes agreed, and aiyo why lah selling. Bored of it dah?

 

[ehdrian]

Hmm thats quite low right? How about your torque? Haha yes agreed, and aiyo why lah selling. Bored of it dah?[/QUOTE]

torque is 31kg..it's a satria neo, u can see my car at "Cars for sale" segment..wanna buy a 4dr car plak..

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

Hmm thats quite low right? How about your torque? Haha yes agreed, and aiyo why lah selling. Bored of it dah?

torque is 31kg..it's a satria neo, u can see my car at "Cars for sale" segment..wanna buy a 4dr car plak..[/QUOTE]

Oh I see, you're using the GSR 'terbalik' right? Haha okay i'll check it out.

Is there any diff between that and the normal GSR?

 

[ehdrian]

torque is 31kg..it's a satria neo, u can see my car at "Cars for sale" segment..wanna buy a 4dr car plak..

Oh I see, you're using the GSR 'terbalik' right? Haha okay i'll check it out.

Is there any diff between that and the normal GSR?[/QUOTE]


the only difference dat i know is there are a lot of aftermarket parts for the older version of gsr compare to the newer version @ gsr terbalik..hehehe

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

Oh I see, you're using the GSR 'terbalik' right? Haha okay i'll check it out.

Is there any diff between that and the normal GSR?

the only difference dat i know is there are a lot of aftermarket parts for the older version of gsr compare to the newer version @ gsr terbalik..hehehe[/QUOTE]

Mmm I see haha. You didnt do any tuning right? Nice car btw, saw your post.

 

[ehdrian]

Mmm I see haha. You didnt do any tuning right? Nice car btw, saw your post.[/QUOTE]

thx for the compliment, using emanage only..cant afford standalone..hehe

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

Mmm I see haha. You didnt do any tuning right? Nice car btw, saw your post.

thx for the compliment, using emanage only..cant afford standalone..hehe[/QUOTE]

Funny though, the GSR I drove had 250hp. Cant remember whether it was at the wheels or engine though many many years ago haha.

 

[speed2horizon]

Hmm that nice, thats the same mounting as the T25 right? Haha whats your power? Tell only lah no need malu malu. I think in this whole thread i've got the lowest power among you all anyways

mounting same or not sure leh..hehe..240whp only at 1.2bar, too little leh dats y malu..nth 2 compare bro as long as we enjoy wat we do..i'm selling the car ade..haha

Yes.. The exhaust inlet flange is T25.

Most ppl says turbocharged vehicle can't do corners. All these are based on hear say and being Malaysian automotive enthusiast culture, ppl are more willing to spend on HP than handling. If a Satria NEO turbocharged is maintained at a 220WHP with a well spooled turbo, well tuned suspension, LSD, 0 bumpsteer, good suspension rigidity, and good tyre of course... i don't see why a GSR can't leave a MIVEC 1.8 like no engine on straight and corners.

The fact is, with greater power, there are more things to be done on the suspension to make the car drivable... Tell me how many MIVEC 1.8, B18C, SR16VVL 2.0 stroked have achieved >220WHP. Of course the car is easier to handle even on stock suspension...

Well, not to argue. It's just my 2 cents experience...

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Haha! I also getting headache about it.. Hmm, evo3 it should be tdo5 :) hmm what about mivec head, GSR block, evo3 turbo kit? And 4pods brake? It's a must to get a better brake.. Haha!

All EVOs from 1-9 are TD05, but the housing and configuration of the fins are different. E3 have slightly bigger compressor compare to E1 & E2.

MIVEC head + GSR Block has been proven. With with internal upgrades, the engine can take large HP.

mivec turbo i wanna swap is not using turbo kit evo 3.
i cant remember what turbine but he used turbo smaller than td05,ic smaller than ic e3..
so i think i got to change the turbo kit to e3.
still need 4 me to add more money

if i wanna do i from sketch, head mivec nowadays hard to find.damn

E3 turbo on a 1.8 stroke will suffer from lag. But of course at top end, the power is umphh.... Slightly smaller than E3 TD05 would be E1 TD05 or VR4 TD05 14B. Or maybe a TD04HL. Which is fun turbo. Not too laggy... Spools in at around 28000RPM-3000RPM. So, no lag issue. Once the MIVEC kicks in, full boost terus...

But bare in mind... Also the wiring for MIVEC is to be installed into the system. Else, u need to control the MIVEC on a separate module like shift light/RSM/Vtec controller.

mivec is more suitable for light satria body. the only advantage of turbo is on straight line speed. for handling or cornering, mivec will bring u more fun. unless if u plan to make a 4WD turbo, thats another story.

Check the fact.

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What makes u think Satria is light..? because the car is small..?
And why do u think weight and handling have direct relation..?

Satria has the best handling among other 1st generation Proton.

Also, IMHO... No offence ok...

Have a nice day.

 

[zeckry zorano]

yeah..same as me also...more prefer MIVEC rather than gsr turbo...u will have same tech as VTEC plus will appear in low profile with it..if theres someone wanna test..juz bring it on la bro...hahaha

 

[henry4563]

Really appreciate all the information, will take note :) thanks guys.