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maxgil05

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Hi every one out there. I'm wondering what daihatsu car i can buy to fix Detomaso engine. Detomaso engine are 1.6 and the aura and espri is 1.0. So jpj only approve 25% of original cc. How to i can fix this engine into aura or espri?
Please help me with this question?
 

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Just to answer that question, there is a 1.3 charade G100 available in the 2nd market scene...we got 2 members here using that engine Gavan and Anion... Why dont u opt for a Gtti?
oh yea..and there are also some members here who convevrted their engines with more than a 25% increase... im sure they'll give u more info....
 

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If you really want to play safe and follow JPJ guidelines, then the only Daihatsu model you can get is the Ascend. But if you get the Ascend, you might as well just change the parts to make it a Deto as the engine is very, very similar.
 

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Hello,

From my experience, nowadays it is virtually impossible to register the 1.6 engine in a 1000cc Aura or Espri :mad: Only cars which registered their engine before 2004 (if not mistaken) is approved. At that time, no prolem in registering engine larger than 25% of the original engine.

If you are still interested in using this engine, buy a 1300cc Aura or an Ascend. Then there will be no problem in registering with JPJ
 

dave

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bro screw detomaso ..go for 4E ..guaranteed satisfaction....and screw jpj too wakakkakaakak
 

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gtti more faster than Deto..
gtti no problem with high boost(even yrv(k3-vet cannot stand la for factory made la...)
gtti more expensive from deto 3k above la...
gtti cant reach 200hp ma.....
Modify in this order...( uk tuner)

1. Air filter - even a replacement panel filter for the airbox is better than the standard item. BHP over 100
2. Exhaust - mandrel bent. BHP now 110
3. Turbo to downpipe extractor - if your budget allows. BHP now about 115-120
4. Fit a boost gauge and raise boost to safety limit of around 12.5 psi. BHP 130
5. Add a fuel cut defender, raise boost to 14.7 psi. BHP 140-150
6. Fit a Hybrid turbo. 150 BHP
7. New ECU and uprated MAP sensor. 150+ BHP
8. Copper head gasket / ported head. Boost raised to 20 psi. Better fuel pump. 170 BHP
8. Larger throttle body. 185 BHP
9. Lots more ££££'s, bigger fuel injectors and more boost!
10. Congratulations...go join the 200+ BHP club!

At engine power of 135 BHP the power to weight ratio will now be 168 BHP per ton which is almost the same as a standard spec Ford Sierra Cosworth! (172 BHP per ton)

i'm sure Ns drag can do the same thing but not really sure la.....They already mod l2 monster!

I'm alredy have deto...
 

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pearjai said:
gtti more faster than Deto..
gtti no problem with high boost(even yrv(k3-vet cannot stand la for factory made la...)
gtti more expensive from deto 3k above la...
gtti cant reach 200hp ma.....
Modify in this order...( uk tuner)

1. Air filter - even a replacement panel filter for the airbox is better than the standard item. BHP over 100
2. Exhaust - mandrel bent. BHP now 110
3. Turbo to downpipe extractor - if your budget allows. BHP now about 115-120
4. Fit a boost gauge and raise boost to safety limit of around 12.5 psi. BHP 130
5. Add a fuel cut defender, raise boost to 14.7 psi. BHP 140-150
6. Fit a Hybrid turbo. 150 BHP
7. New ECU and uprated MAP sensor. 150+ BHP
8. Copper head gasket / ported head. Boost raised to 20 psi. Better fuel pump. 170 BHP
8. Larger throttle body. 185 BHP
9. Lots more ££££'s, bigger fuel injectors and more boost!
10. Congratulations...go join the 200+ BHP club!

At engine power of 135 BHP the power to weight ratio will now be 168 BHP per ton which is almost the same as a standard spec Ford Sierra Cosworth! (172 BHP per ton)

i'm sure Ns drag can do the same thing but not really sure la.....They already mod l2 monster!

I'm alredy have deto...
Gtti more expensive than Deto by 3000?????? merv...verify this info for me pls....
 

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I wonder why (long time ago) whay Espri with CB23 (same like Aura with CB23) doesn't want to convert to GTTi? Are they De Tomaso hardcore fan and won't accept GTTi? Or they need to change mounting on their engine?
Sory to ask cz I still don't know till now..

Yeah..GTTi still the best of all daihatsu Engine..

4E is also best but cannot lawan la cz 4E is 1.3 engine..GTTi 1.0..
 

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pearjai said:


1. Air filter - even a replacement panel filter for the airbox is better than the standard item. BHP over 100
2. Exhaust - mandrel bent. BHP now 110
3. Turbo to downpipe extractor - if your budget allows. BHP now about 115-120
4. Fit a boost gauge and raise boost to safety limit of around 12.5 psi. BHP 130
5. Add a fuel cut defender, raise boost to 14.7 psi. BHP 140-150
6. Fit a Hybrid turbo. 150 BHP
7. New ECU and uprated MAP sensor. 150+ BHP
8. Copper head gasket / ported head. Boost raised to 20 psi. Better fuel pump. 170 BHP
8. Larger throttle body. 185 BHP
9. Lots more ££££'s, bigger fuel injectors and more boost!
10. Congratulations...go join the 200+ BHP club!

At engine power of 135 BHP the power to weight ratio will now be 168 BHP per ton which is almost the same as a standard spec Ford Sierra Cosworth! (172 BHP per ton)

i'm sure Ns drag can do the same thing but not really sure la.....They already mod l2 monster!

I'm alredy have deto...
With that much mods, piston boleh tahan-ke?
 

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Asking a question if you're not really sure is better than don't know anything but pretend to know everything..
 

Aura

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Is this correct? I got it from GTTi club UK...

Engine...

Modify in this order...

1. Air filter - even a replacement panel filter for the airbox is better than the standard item. BHP over 100
2. Exhaust - mandrel bent. BHP now 110
3. Turbo to downpipe extractor - if your budget allows. BHP now about 115-120
4. Fit a boost gauge and raise boost to safety limit of around 12.5 psi. BHP 130
5. Add a fuel cut defender, raise boost to 14.7 psi. BHP 140-150
6. Fit a Hybrid turbo. 150 BHP
7. New ECU and uprated MAP sensor. 150+ BHP
8. Copper head gasket / ported head. Boost raised to 20 psi. Better fuel pump. 170 BHP
8. Larger throttle body. 185 BHP
9. Lots more ££££'s, bigger fuel injectors and more boost!
10. Congratulations...go join the 200+ BHP club!

Source:
http://members.aol.com/Lverrecchia/public_html/mods2.html
 

Maxx

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if aura cb23 doesnt need to modify mounting to transplant to GTti. mine reinforced the mounting at body (right side).
for aura i think need to modify mounting.. for espri recommended deto engine.. installing GTti engine wont have effect like aura GTti coz espri body heavier.

just a thought.. :)
 

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gtti have semi-forged piston so......no problem with high boost!
Forged:
· Stronger. The difference in strength between forged and cast pistons is considerable.
They can withstand loads anywhere from 40% to almost 100% higher than cast because the forging process makes the metal more ductile.
· Mass - the forged is lighter by about a third than cast. This makes a big difference at 7500rpm as lighter pistons can handle higher rpms with less
stress on the rods, crankshaft and block.
· Durability - the forged will take far more abuse without breaking because of it's finer structure.
· Oil use - after warming up a forged piston will use less oil as it's thinner rings will seal better.
· More power - rings can account for up to 40% of an engine's internal friction. If they are thinner - less friction -less heat - more power.
· Detonation - casts are very intolerant of detonation especially around the ring lands. Forged pistons will conductheat of the crown faster than cast
because of the structure. Overheated combustion chamber parts start reacting as glow plugs.
Pre-ignition induces extremely rapid combustion and welding temperatures.
Melt down is only seconds away. So if you are in the habit of going to the red line a lot (try to change this - a standard Lav runs out of steam at around
7500 so going to 8300 is just making noise!) or riding long and hard on hot summer days, racing or your beast has been tuned to the tits - consider forged
pistons.
Otherwise casts are fine.
Pre-ignition and detonation problems should be fixed and their end result not blamed on the piston.


for more information just go to...

http://www.laverdamania.com/pistongb.htm

gtti
cheers to Daihatsu for sending us a bit of their oriental magic. (I was devastated when they were cut from production in 93')
 

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Huiyooo..I didn't know this..Good info my our knowledge..Congrat Peerjai!
 

pearjai

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Nowday,even v-tec turbo use forged piston!To rev for hyper limits and...........
So just imagine that the piston itself more worth than other such modification...Gtti engine are so rare la.....prefer the gtti but i'm still use deto cos mine are an espri.Hope my (k3-ve)Myvi come earlier la...red mistic wmy6xxx
 

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