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Hello fellow petrol heads, was wondering what sort of an engine upgrade would be optimal for the 2013 Satria Neo R3?

I was thinking of a 5 valve per cylinder engine. What are your thoughts?

Which engine upgrade would you choose? Why? Cost?

Thanks in advance :)
 
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Hello fellow petrol heads, was wondering what sort of an engine upgrade would be optimal for the 2013 Satria Neo R3?

I was thinking of a 5 valve per cylinder engine. What are your thoughts?

Which engine upgrade would you choose? Why? Cost?

Thanks in advance :)
Campro CFE..because its fit...
 

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In my view, if you want to go NA, i stand with Danz's view. Mod it with Works engineering stuff. They have lots of stuff made for proton. Or else, turbo it.
 

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Satria Neo R3 if not wrong is just a normal 1.6 CPS Satria Neo. Unless u r talking about R3 Satria Neo which is different instead.
 

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Satria Neo R3 if not wrong is just a normal 1.6 CPS Satria Neo. Unless u r talking about R3 Satria Neo which is different instead.
I'm sorry but what is the difference between a Satria Neo R3 & a R3 Satria Neo??

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In my view, if you want to go NA, i stand with Danz's view. Mod it with Works engineering stuff. They have lots of stuff made for proton. Or else, turbo it.
I kinda like Danz's view as well, though I was wondering after moding it with Works Engineering is it possible to plug a turbo as well? How much of a power increase do you think it'd be able to achieve? There isn't much space so I figure a twin turbo is out of the question?

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I like the Campro CFE idea guys. Thanks for that! Though is there any 5 valve per cyclinder engines in the market? Was hoping to have an engine upgrade that breathes better and is more comfortable at higher revs. Doesn't Japan produce and bring in anymore?
 

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I'm sorry but what is the difference between a Satria Neo R3 & a R3 Satria Neo??

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I kinda like Danz's view as well, though I was wondering after moding it with Works Engineering is it possible to plug a turbo as well? How much of a power increase do you think it'd be able to achieve? There isn't much space so I figure a twin turbo is out of the question?

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I like the Campro CFE idea guys. Thanks for that! Though is there any 5 valve per cyclinder engines in the market? Was hoping to have an engine upgrade that breathes better and is more comfortable at higher revs. Doesn't Japan produce and bring in anymore?
Campro CPS modded RM9k with 185whp is possible.
Campro Turbo website, go see. They cater CamPro kaw kaw.
5 valves per cylinder is BT/ST 4AGE?
 

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Campro CPS modded RM9k with 185whp is possible.
Campro Turbo website, go see. They cater CamPro kaw kaw.
5 valves per cylinder is BT/ST 4AGE?
9k huh... Oh look, my wallet just set itself on fire, hahaha
Yea I checked out the website. I'll give them a call soon.
Yea that's from toyota. Wonder if there is a 5-valve engine from Mitsubishi? I like the 4AGE Blacktop, though I bet its pretty rare to find here in Malaysia eh?

Random question:
If I were to replace the exhaust system of the car early on then let's say I replace the engine after, will I still be able to use that exhaust system considering its still a 1.6 litre 4 cyclinder engine?

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Found this 4G93T DOHC 16 Valve Turbo, any thoughts?
 

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I'm sorry but what is the difference between a Satria Neo R3 & a R3 Satria Neo??

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I kinda like Danz's view as well, though I was wondering after moding it with Works Engineering is it possible to plug a turbo as well? How much of a power increase do you think it'd be able to achieve? There isn't much space so I figure a twin turbo is out of the question?

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I like the Campro CFE idea guys. Thanks for that! Though is there any 5 valve per cyclinder engines in the market? Was hoping to have an engine upgrade that breathes better and is more comfortable at higher revs. Doesn't Japan produce and bring in anymore?
R3 Satria Neo it has R3 parts and is higher hp than normal satria neo.

While for Satria Neo R3 which is currently selling, is just normal Satria Neo CPS with R3 bodykits.
So is call Satria Neo R3. That's what was stated on the site la haha!
 

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9k huh... Oh look, my wallet just set itself on fire, hahaha
Yea I checked out the website. I'll give them a call soon.
Yea that's from toyota. Wonder if there is a 5-valve engine from Mitsubishi? I like the 4AGE Blacktop, though I bet its pretty rare to find here in Malaysia eh?

Random question:
If I were to replace the exhaust system of the car early on then let's say I replace the engine after, will I still be able to use that exhaust system considering its still a 1.6 litre 4 cyclinder engine?

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Found this 4G93T DOHC 16 Valve Turbo, any thoughts?
They are in Malaysian shores, just the matter of the condition.
 

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9k huh... Oh look, my wallet just set itself on fire, hahaha
Yea I checked out the website. I'll give them a call soon.
Yea that's from toyota. Wonder if there is a 5-valve engine from Mitsubishi? I like the 4AGE Blacktop, though I bet its pretty rare to find here in Malaysia eh?

Random question:
If I were to replace the exhaust system of the car early on then let's say I replace the engine after, will I still be able to use that exhaust system considering its still a 1.6 litre 4 cyclinder engine?

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Found this 4G93T DOHC 16 Valve Turbo, any thoughts?
Mitsubishi have 5-valve per cylinder engine. But that is only a straight 3 engine with 15-valve. It is the 3G81 and 3G83/3G83T engine. Both engines are for the kei car called Mitsubishi Minica. As a matter of fact, Mitsubishi is the world's first manufacturer who came up with a 5-valve per cylinder engine in this engine. But I don't think this is the 5-valve per cylinder engine that you are looking for in your Satria Neo.

4G93T in Satria Neo? I've heard of people transplanting that into Satria Neo but I am not very sure whether any modifications are needed or not in the mounting to fit that engine. This engine is indeed powerful. Around 200hp for a 1.8 litre engine. Many older Satria, Wira and Putra are also using this engine through transplant.
 

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Mitsubishi have 5-valve per cylinder engine. But that is only a straight 3 engine with 15-valve. It is the 3G81 and 3G83/3G83T engine. Both engines are for the kei car called Mitsubishi Minica. As a matter of fact, Mitsubishi is the world's first manufacturer who came up with a 5-valve per cylinder engine in this engine. But I don't think this is the 5-valve per cylinder engine that you are looking for in your Satria Neo.

4G93T in Satria Neo? I've heard of people transplanting that into Satria Neo but I am not very sure whether any modifications are needed or not in the mounting to fit that engine. This engine is indeed powerful. Around 200hp for a 1.8 litre engine. Many older Satria, Wira and Putra are also using this engine through transplant.
Well that's news to me. I always thought it was Yamaha that produced the first 5-valve engine.
Yea, I heard its possible but not to sure of the details. Probably just gonna hop with the idea that the other guys have provided and go with Works Engineering.
I'm sure if I ask there, they'd give me more details on the matter.
The only thing that worries me about the modding the CPS is the engine response, especially with a turbo. Though turbo has come a long way from its early days.... Hmmm if only a twin turbo was possible, hahahaha
 

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go for custom ITB if u wanna stick to NA.. turbo kit if ur a HP crazy..

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makesure u know what type of application ur planning for.. maybe just pure fun, or drag, or time attack ETC..
 

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Mod turbo, lots of things need to bring into considerations orr...if not later engine blow :afraid:
BOT is usually risky, engine transplant safer.

Maintain NA, mod but small gain. Turbo same amount spent but get more than what you paid to mod NA.
 

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makesure u know what type of application ur planning for.. maybe just pure fun, or drag, or time attack ETC..
Time attack of course. No interest in drag. SPEED!~~

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I thought the same thing :)

By any chance would a 4G93T fit?
 

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4G91,92,4G93t-CK version will fit nicely into the Neo... last month after Raya I had been rummaging chopshops around Klang to Kajang... those CK-93Ts halfcut costs between RM9500 to RM11,000s...

....was surprised how expensive CJ MIVECs and 4G93ts these days... they've become so rare, you really have to opt to buy someone else's car already converted, which is shy few ks away from buying halfcuts, but you get more stuff like seats, dampers, wheels, etc... compared to buying a halfcut...
 
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if u like time attack, it will cost quite alot.. engine and handling all need to mod. maybe start modding step by step..
 

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Anyone here know the difference between the 4G93t-CK version VS 4G93t-CB version??

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if u like time attack, it will cost quite alot.. engine and handling all need to mod. maybe start modding step by step..
Only gonna start modding after i've mastered the manual Satria Neo R3 in its original state. See what's lacking and add on one by one by the handling, speed and ride experience. I suppose that would be the only way to truly learn about the car and the parts involved in making it better? Plus I wanna push my driving skills to see how much I can get from it despite the upgrades and compare it to after the upgrades. Would be fun to see :)

I'm just here to get hints on what options there are for different mods that can be done to it. Better to be prepared now, then to be lost later on.
Not to mention there are always new things to learn here all the time :)

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Oh anybody heard of the Cat-Back exhaust system? I heard it'll up the BHP by 15 or so. Though not sure if the 2013 Satria Neo R3 comes with it.