Genneva Gold - Who kena and what is you views on this?

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Genneva Gold.

What say you all?

If the returns is too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

Sigh.
When will malaysians learn?
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It seems that they are paying out to the investors, for now....
I dont know if there's anyone who doesnt get paid from the investment so I dont have much comment, moreover a judgement.

Since its counterpart in Singapore was also raided and frozen, there's gonna be something fishy. It might not be harmful to the investors but I do not brush off the possibility of it going illegal against some laws in Malaysia or Singapore
 

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Spend RM2k-15k for night classes and after done, do part time after working hours. This will be 100% safe and the return is unlimited. Better than any investment. But most people will not be able to do this because of lazy.
 

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BNM should have done their homework before they raid, right?
Company may be legitimate, but may have faulted some BNM rulings? Not sure....wait and see...
 

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Hi guys im one of the investors... Return was good and there is no element of fraud since im holding to the gold bars... Tested for its purity and all are in good condition...

It was not like the old Bestino which case are still ongoing (these guys collect deposit from customer without any security)....

With the current increasing cost of living, we thought this is a good investment, but our hope was short lived by BNM....
 

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Hi guys im one of the investors... Return was good and there is no element of fraud since im holding to the gold bars... Tested for its purity and all are in good condition...

It was not like the old Bestino which case are still ongoing (these guys collect deposit from customer without any security)....

With the current increasing cost of living, we thought this is a good investment, but our hope was short lived by BNM....

You can claim it is not a fraud after this case close and your money is back. And not to forget the price you pay for the gold bar.
 

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Hi guys im one of the investors... Return was good and there is no element of fraud since im holding to the gold bars... Tested for its purity and all are in good condition...

It was not like the old Bestino which case are still ongoing (these guys collect deposit from customer without any security)....

With the current increasing cost of living, we thought this is a good investment, but our hope was short lived by BNM....
Bro, investment in gold is a safe investment, but it cannot give you good or high return. Please check the daily gold price from newspaper, then you got the answer. furthermore, only bank can collect cash from public. Singapore investors started to complain because the co defaults the interest payment. why? because investors started to wake up liao and less business, not enough covers to cover the holes. but Malaysian still in your dream. i guarantee they will cabut in one day. According to BNM, the total investment is RM5B. Crazy.....
 

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Hi guys im one of the investors... Return was good and there is no element of fraud since im holding to the gold bars... Tested for its purity and all are in good condition...

It was not like the old Bestino which case are still ongoing (these guys collect deposit from customer without any security)....

With the current increasing cost of living, we thought this is a good investment, but our hope was short lived by BNM....
As far as I know they have no license to collect $$$ from you, so they sold the gold to you as if trading with you, but still will pay you interest on the amount invested. BNM maybe still warrant this as illegal because they pay interest....my 2 sen
 

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Two things in life could kill you. One, woman one is enough. Two, greed one is too much.
 

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Bloody ponzi scheme is what it is.

With their promised double digit returns with an effective compounding rate of +20%, there's no legit bank in the world currently able to offer or sustain these level of payouts. More to the point, institutional investors do not get involved in these no matter how 'good' the promised rate of return. You look at their clientele and its always the retirees, students, grandmas, and whatnot. How is it that finanical moguls like the Vincent Tans, Teh Hong Piow etc, are not all clambering aboard. Doesn't that tell you something or at least ring alarm bells ?

For what its worth, the raids were jointly and in tamdem by BNM and the Singapore Monetary Authority within their respective jurisdictions. Even if you think BNM is staffed by a bunch of inepts and motivated by corruption (which I think is a bunch of BS propagated by Genevve themselves), that still does not rule out the raids by SMA, which is an organization that oversees some of the strongest banks in Asia, eg. OCBC, UOB, DBS etc.

Holding a piece of gold given to you as a cash equivalent means didley squat and there's no commercial logic for trading cash for a piece of commodity when liquid cash is always king. You have to convert the gold to cash and the truth of the matter is if trade that gold today you get discounted and won't recoup on any short-term holdings. This is not a case of you buying gold on the low, and holding it over the longterm as an investment hedge. I think people are getting duped into thinking they are having an illusion of a collateral when really they will take a hit if they decide to recoup that collateral.

Listen folks, real money don't grow on trees and don't get made so easily. Don't be so goddamn naive.
 

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IN anything we do, MR.EFFORT will always come in. There is no such thing as sit down and wait for the money to come in. No pain, no gain. Still need to work hard for something that will eventually benefit our hardwork.
 

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IN anything we do, MR.EFFORT will always come in. There is no such thing as sit down and wait for the money to come in. No pain, no gain. Still need to work hard for something that will eventually benefit our hardwork.
Not unless you are already loaded, then the money just keep coming in...
 

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Not unless you are already loaded, then the money just keep coming in...
Those are usually already rewarded with their effort...:top:
Born rich how nice is the other way of money keep coming in :rofl:
 

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Those are usually already rewarded with their effort...:top:
Born rich how nice is the other way of money keep coming in :rofl:
I know of a few woh! One is my ex colleague kid. Born son, father in law set up trust fund for him liao...6 figures......:adore:
 

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I know of a few woh! One is my ex colleague kid. Born son, father in law set up trust fund for him liao...6 figures......:adore:
Damn, where to find such father in law? Anyone of those looking for a stepson? :rofl:
 

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IN anything we do, MR.EFFORT will always come in. There is no such thing as sit down and wait for the money to come in. No pain, no gain. Still need to work hard for something that will eventually benefit our hardwork.
I think, for the most part, the people caught up in this mess are not necessarily lazy. Most are hardworking and accumulated some savings.

What they all have in common is a desire to better their present financial position. Regretably, people's better judgement often tend to be clouded by promises of glitter and quick riches. In short,.... greed......not necessarily bad, but will be if you do not temper it with some common sense.

Most rich capable people made their money because they are motivated by greed but with them comes a commercial savvy which is why you do not see people like Teh Hong Piow, Robert Kuok, and other institutional investors, etc, putting money into crap like Genevve.

This is not something that happened overnight. A lot of people forget that Genevve and similar setups had a history of being raided by the monetary authorities. This is not the first time but certianly this last raid was by far the most severe.

The official word is that complaints and irregularities have been received regarding their activities. You cannot be too simplistic and cynical about the authorities motives just because none of the complainants have publicly come forward. If an investigative process is ongoing, it is typically usual matters are kept discrete so that evidence and witnesses are not compromised. If a competent organization such as the Singapore Monetary Authority has staked its reputation on the raids, it also says something. It's also clear the SMA coordinated with the BNM because the raids were executed simultaneously.

My personal opinion is that the double digit rates of return Genevve are offering are not commercially sensible or sustainable. Consider that banks today, at best, will offer +4% on promotional fresh FD placement or 1 year or less. Even high risk Italian Goverment Treasury Bonds do not go into the double digits. The last peak yield on the Italian stuff was +5%, if I'm not wrong.

What this says to me is that, if someone walks up to you saying that they will offer your double digits interest payout over the short-term, its either a scam or an unsecured loan. Genevve does appear to have characteristics of a ponzi scheme of sorts. In any case, there's a real fishy stink to the whole setup. For everyone's sakes, I hope I'm wrong
 

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BN still investigate Genneva? how long they want to investigate? why keeping the gold bars anf freezing their accout for so long?
aihhhhhhhh big big money here......
 

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