Proton Gen-2 VS 1.6 KIA Spectra VS Toyota VIOS

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Hi Guys...

Come on guys, Which one is better in terms of performance, fuel consumption, etc between them? Any suggestion?

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Hello Friend, can give you some suggestionGen 2 - Performance = ok
Fuel Consumption = ok 1.6
Price = ok
Quality = not so good

Vios - Performance = ok
Fuel Consumption = ok 1.5
Price = expensive
Quality = good

well its up to your choice/financial anyway.

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I will go for vios :D
 

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But what i know gen-2 fc is more saver than kia spectra.

what abt Vios?
Is it Vios less pickup in low rev just like gen-2?

any expertise, guys?
 

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n did u all notice that KIA Spectra Headlight cover become blurr n yellow just like they use the low quality plastics that cant stand to heat although just 1 year time.

ada perasan kaa??
 

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yea...i know what u mean for the headlight..i tot the car with that headlight has been years!

I can say Vios got more power that the rest of two but in term of fc, really not sure. For fuel consumption, i vote for Honda City IDS-i hahaha :D
 

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but honda city ids have gear problem right?
that why they stop the selling n change to honda city Vtec? is it true?

for vios and gen-2, in terms of stability, which one is better?
 

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Vios & Gen2 stability
Never drive a Vios but Gen2 you will have a good handling on a sharp corner
(50-80 km/ph) Exp =Genting up/down hill Still good (Manual lah)

Maybe should ask a Vios driver around here.

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azuan_man81 said:
but honda city ids have gear problem right?
that why they stop the selling n change to honda city Vtec? is it true?

for vios and gen-2, in terms of stability, which one is better?
Nola..disagree with the statement. VTEC and IDS-i is targetted to different audience, one aims for fuel econ one for performence. Some more, VTEC seems like limited to 150 units only. Even if it's true, it doesn't have anything to do with the engine also. VTEC also using the same gear box as IDS-i model, if not mistaken, it's the stageless CVT or i'm mistaken?

Gen-2 is lotus tuned while Toyota is famous for reliable, this one u might need some other ppl to answer you already.
 

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I drive Vios for a few months before, err...what i can say is, it's definitely comfortable but in term of stability, i feel like i was being above the center of gravity, because the seating is quite tall. In the corner, i daren't to do sharp bend on speed like i do on my saga because i feel like quite a body roll on Vios. Or because i get used to drop to 2nd or 3rd gear during sharp corner on manual transmission .
 

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wahhh respect, i bet u holding the spec with price list
 

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wat i vote is Gen-2
Fuel Consumption = better than vios and spectra
Price = ok very good compare to vios and spectra
Quality = not so good this is the only bad bad thing

Vios - Performance = ok
Fuel Consumption = higher than gen-2 RM 50 for about 400++ only at RM 1.42 /L
Price = expensive
Quality = good

Spectra - Performance = ok
Fuel Consumption = higher than gen-2 and higher than VIOS (wat i can say Korean car are suck in FC all suck and one 4wd had been voted as most higher FC in the world)
Price = expensive
Quality = ok a bit better than Gen-2 abit only (abang adik lah)


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Not sure about this but the Gen2 gives better fuel economy only if its a manual, is it?

The Vios has very good pickup at low rpms. Good for city drive. Above 100kmh you'll find it abit disappointing... but overall very good for a 1.5. Handling is quite a joke, lots of body roll despite somewhat sporty suspension.
Quality wise I would say not so good for a Toyota. Common faults are unclear reception of radio, noisy air-con compressor and my family's unit has interior rattling...

I would still pick the Vios though.
 

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VIOs is better... im driving a vios... good car... smooth engine.. more powerful... good quality... n most important is there is a lot of choice in kits for the car... its quite stable too eventhough its tall... (lower then city) famous toyota suspension... and most most important is its safety... GOA body... voted safest in its class... go for VIOS you wont regret.. i've had a serious accident USJ 2 months ago.. if anyone saw tht (was posted in ZTH) they will knoe how safe is VIOS.... 2 VIOs+1 iswara totaled 100m apart within 5 minutes... iswara's boot is gone till back seat n my car is still not very serious...
 

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Me too sure pick VIOS.
Much more nicer is terms of design.
More modding option.
Very powerful car.
Reliability is asure.
My family owns 3 toyotas and they never failed to serve us.
:) LOve Toyota car a lot.
 

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jaywat said:
Nola..disagree with the statement. VTEC and IDS-i is targetted to different audience, one aims for fuel econ one for performence. Some more, VTEC seems like limited to 150 units only. Even if it's true, it doesn't have anything to do with the engine also. VTEC also using the same gear box as IDS-i model, if not mistaken, it's the stageless CVT or i'm mistaken?

Gen-2 is lotus tuned while Toyota is famous for reliable, this one u might need some other ppl to answer you already.
thats the limited edition model you're talking about, the VTEC honda City has been available for more than half a year now iirc. Just like the VTEC Jazz, the City has a few more things than just a different engine, most obvious is the rear disc brake instead of drums on the i-dsi. And yes, all City's and Jazz's share the same stageless CVT transmisision.

As for jentu vs kia spectra vs vios?

Spectra shouldn't even be on the list because just like the Accent, it's an even bigger piece of shit than most Proton's :p.

Vios if you can afford it is the best car in this group, but Gen2 has highest price-to-performance/satisfaction ratio i think, if you discount the little knick knacks of QC that proton is famous for :P. But you're paying what, 20 grand less anyway?

Either way i'm not a fan of either cars interior, i figure you spend a lot of time INSIDE a car everday you should be comfortable in the interior, and if you compared the plastics and overall interior design, the City is a much better car. You only have to get used to the eccentric design on the outside hehe. The interior of the gen2 has been such a deal breaker that I was considering buying it until I sat in it and drove a gen2 a few times and realized I really can't stand the interior :P. might just get another Waja in the family :-\.
 

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i definitely vote for Vios. after some bodykit, lowered and sport rim it look marvellous. low fuel consumption.110hp.

i have heard ppl driving waja n gen2 tat always say they never buy back the same car. spectra is definitely high FC. all korean car have high FC. i heard they say it's less powerful for 1.6 dohc.
 

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leave spectra alone.

if 60K is ur budget limit, then no choice go for gen2 with ABS.
if can stretch to 80K go for VIOS. dont opt for VIOS E (there is no SE), go for G spec instead. U need EBD and VSC during corners as VIOS centre of gravity is quite high. performance from 1.5 VVTI is good, equivalent to a 1.6 without VVTI. As City i-DSI lost to VIOS in terms of power (at least on paper), its fuel consumption is simply unbelievable and those 7 speed CVT is fun to use. In order to woo more customers Honda was quick to bring in the VTEC version... its all becoz of that - MORE POWER!

City is also good on exploiting interior space with its flexible rear seat design. but exterior looks a bit feminine. he he I will go for muscular VIOS look.

p/s oh yeah, VIOS 1.5E comes with rear drum brakes compare to all disc setup on 1.5G.
 

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