Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[SkYwAlKeR]

stock nia... heheh

yo guan tomolo i coming bung cheong....

 

[afmarsyal]

good day sifoos, fellow friends and loyal thread visitors..recently i've been fooling around with my throttle position sensor..my current injectors is 210cc and tb is 4g92p soch..because my spark plug is always heavily carbon sooted, so i think maybe 210cc injector is to big for my 4g13 with 1.5 displacement..so after taken 4g92p tps apart and study which way is retard and advance, i retarded it, but to no satisfaction..luckily i have spare 4g15p tps and install it to 4g92p tb and as before retard it to some degree i don't know, i just adjust, test, smell the fume, observe water vapour coming out from exhaust when cold start, and oso carbon build up at muffler tips..when everything is beautiful (got power, got water vapour, significant reduce of carbon build up at muffler tip, considerate fuel consumption, except for the spark plug, not yet check) all that is left for me to know is,
a. is there any different between 1.6 and 1.5 tps or my 1.6 tps broken oredi?
b. what is the best spark plug kaler? white or light black or blonde?
can anyone inform me? thanx in advance..peace

 

[easymustard]

yeah i know im a bit short tempered but at least dont say bout the naive thing, i know im a noob, ii stated that before, and thats why i asked for your help. at least you can just ask bout what i want, or what i mean. and plus, who wants to get to anyone nerves? im juz asking and you called me naive for that?is it wrong to ask?so, im sorry if my words is really bad, coz someone made me angry first. so im better check with real life mechanics, coz they mind their words while talking.

 

[ettm_14]

easymustard you are from kotabahru?hehe...i always go kota bahru once a month, always stay near Hayaki there,

 

[easymustard]

yeah..i always been there too..well im sorry for this sky, i just wanna learn from ppl around KL, not much you can get here in KB

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

good day sifoos, fellow friends and loyal thread visitors..recently i've been fooling around with my throttle position sensor..my current injectors is 210cc and tb is 4g92p soch..because my spark plug is always heavily carbon sooted, so i think maybe 210cc injector is to big for my 4g13 with 1.5 displacement..so after taken 4g92p tps apart and study which way is retard and advance, i retarded it, but to no satisfaction..luckily i have spare 4g15p tps and install it to 4g92p tb and as before retard it to some degree i don't know, i just adjust, test, smell the fume, observe water vapour coming out from exhaust when cold start, and oso carbon build up at muffler tips..when everything is beautiful (got power, got water vapour, significant reduce of carbon build up at muffler tip, considerate fuel consumption, except for the spark plug, not yet check) all that is left for me to know is,
a. is there any different between 1.6 and 1.5 tps or my 1.6 tps broken oredi?
b. what is the best spark plug kaler? white or light black or blonde?
can anyone inform me? thanx in advance..peace

210cc injectors in 1.5 engine sure running rich lo... i running 1.6 with perdana sei throttle body, using 210cc also AF mixture rich... for ur application, 182cc injectors will be enough (or even abit overkill)....

as for the TPS, i not vr sure as i still finding it out myself... how many pin-out does 1.5 TPS and 1.6 TPS has anyway??...

sparkplug color should be brownish in color... white means running lean... black means rich mixture....

yeah i know im a bit short tempered but at least dont say bout the naive thing, i know im a noob, ii stated that before, and thats why i asked for your help. at least you can just ask bout what i want, or what i mean. and plus, who wants to get to anyone nerves? im juz asking and you called me naive for that?is it wrong to ask?so, im sorry if my words is really bad, coz someone made me angry first. so im better check with real life mechanics, coz they mind their words while talking.

so, can u rephrase ur question??...

 

[Wira_lover]

yeah..i always been there too..well im sorry for this sky, i just wanna learn from ppl around KL, not much you can get here in KB

Bro,

we are willing to guide you bro...that's what forums are for...

let bygones be bygones ... So kindly advise us?

We need a lil bit more info from you so we can provide much relevant help to bring your setup to life.

Chill Bro.

Bump:

yeah..i always been there too..well im sorry for this sky, i just wanna learn from ppl around KL, not much you can get here in KB

Bro,

we are willing to guide you bro...that's what forums are for...

let bygones be bygones ... So kindly advise us?

We need a lil bit more info from you so we can provide much relevant help to bring your setup to life.

Chill Bro.

 

[easymustard]

ok:rolleyes: well firstly im driving stock 4g15(daily car).and im not doing anything yet to my car, coz i want a smart mod (so i dont have to change parts a few times).i still wanna use the same engine, but with more power.so i just wanna know, what should i do to max my 4g15?i oredi read this thread through.and now i wanna know the best brand for the parts i have to install.for ex, the best clutch to use with 4g15. or the best suspension for wira.(coz some ppl said tein is harsh,gab is not good).please just list it.coz im a real stock noob T_T

 

[biz-da-tech]

easymustard.

simple and more horsepower is change cam pulley mayb crank pulley since they took out there parts of thing and den u will get a few HP and good respond and a bit save fuel.~

comfort clutch a bit better is i know using supertouring 1.6cc flywheel and 1.6 clutch ?
if not get racing semi clutch from exedy and can also change flywheel too.

suspention if change adjustable sure will bumping ~~ :) or else get sport absorber.

well this is all i learn from here~ haha thx all the sifus

 

[easymustard]

adjustable is bumpy eh?well thx for that.

 

[biz-da-tech]

cause of too stiff. also cause of the spring rates but mostly people complain lo.

mine is very stiff so very bumppy slight a few hole in the road u will feel like riding horses but me and my wife are fine with that so im glad that i no need to change because of her hahaha~

 

[joev8796]

haha, my dad is complainin bout car stiffness just now but my mum back me up although mine is da daily n onli car in my home.

my dad oso not hapi wit da ride height as every bump wil scratch my car, thn again my mum said it is becoz of illegal built speed bump tat below par means da height of da bumps is 2 high thn those local authorities stated, thn she went 2 complain bout da bump 2 da resident office

 

[Wira_lover]

Easymustard,

in my opinion,Get the Exedy Semi Racing Clutch,at the same time lighten your flywheel.

Get a K& N Open Pod Filter.

Lighten Crank Pulley.

4-1 extractor/header.Hi Flow exhaust setup,if im not mistaken should be 1.8"..sifu's please correct me if im wrong.

Lightweight 15" rims

You should be able to see a decent amount of improvement for accelaration.In terms of handling,adjustables are still the best if you ask me,Tien yes,tends to be a lil too stiff even in the softest setting,however you can always opt for other brands, like cusco/hks available 2nd hand adjustables at Halfcut shops.

Can i know if youre using Wira SE or?What year is your Wira?Siemens Ecu? or Mitsubishi?

 

[ettm_14]

yeap i second lighten crank pulley, well can feel abit more pick up,

open pod must comes with heatshield if not you will have to suffer the consequence of hot air...

maybe you can try monroe sensatrac for suspension, pretty good i will say, cornering is ok and ride comfort not sacrificed!

maybe performance cam and adjustable cam pulley can come in later when you want more mid to high end power,

depends on your year of your car, maybe get a guang dao stabilizer/ spark earth, or hot inazma mr, all these are dyno proven device...( abit little pricey though) pivot spark earth rm180 and guang dao about Rm360!)

then when you are tired of all these mods, you can go serious with 1.6 stroker kit, port and polish and high cams!

just my humble opinion!

Bump: yeap i second lighten crank pulley, well can feel abit more pick up,

open pod must comes with heatshield if not you will have to suffer the consequence of hot air...

maybe you can try monroe sensatrac for suspension, pretty good i will say, cornering is ok and ride comfort not sacrificed!

maybe performance cam and adjustable cam pulley can come in later when you want more mid to high end power,

depends on your year of your car, maybe get a guang dao stabilizer/ spark earth, or hot inazma mr, all these are dyno proven device...( abit little pricey though) pivot spark earth rm180 and guang dao about Rm360!)

then when you are tired of all these mods, you can go serious with 1.6 stroker kit, port and polish and high cams!

just my humble opinion!

Bump: yeap i second lighten crank pulley, well can feel abit more pick up,

open pod must comes with heatshield if not you will have to suffer the consequence of hot air...

maybe you can try monroe sensatrac for suspension, pretty good i will say, cornering is ok and ride comfort not sacrificed!

maybe performance cam and adjustable cam pulley can come in later when you want more mid to high end power,

depends on your year of your car, maybe get a guang dao stabilizer/ spark earth, or hot inazma mr, all these are dyno proven device...( abit little pricey though) pivot spark earth rm180 and guang dao about Rm360!)

then when you are tired of all these mods, you can go serious with 1.6 stroker kit, port and polish and high cams!

just my humble opinion!

 

[easymustard]

thats a nice explainaton.thx a lot.well im driving wira saloon,2007 lol stock to the top.i've done my exhaust.but,the top speed i can reach only 160kmh.used to be higher than that before.im getting a new open pod a.filtr, but dont know which brand is better.now i will opt for K&N.i dont know a lot bout engine,but maybe i'll go for clutch first.can i use the exedy racing clutch?or just semi racing?because im not sure the racing one can fit into 4g15 or not.tq.

 

[biz-da-tech]

if not mistaken exedy only have 1 type for 4g13/15 and also is only semi racing clutch only.

 

[easymustard]

ooh ok.i asked someone but he not sure coz the size is diff

 

[meltan7]

since your car is a 2007 model, it should be running on siemens ECU. you could try the basic mods such as air intake and exhaust system. that should free up some ponies for you. but due to the "uniqueness" of the siemens ECU, any major mods will not benefit as much.

for now, just stick to the basic mods. later on, when you start to itch, and want more power. go for high degree cams, PnP, oversized pistons and so forth. you will also need a piggyback/standalone ECU to accommodate all that power.

so be wise, and plan out your mods carefully.

cheers!

 

[easymustard]

thx a lot for that

 

[afmarsyal]

210cc injectors in 1.5 engine sure running rich lo... i running 1.6 with perdana sei throttle body, using 210cc also AF mixture rich... for ur application, 182cc injectors will be enough (or even abit overkill)....

as for the TPS, i not vr sure as i still finding it out myself... how many pin-out does 1.5 TPS and 1.6 TPS has anyway??...

sparkplug color should be brownish in color... white means running lean... black means rich mixture....


so, can u rephrase ur question??...

that's why i'm fooling around with the tps seting..which i learn that for greater torque retard it (anticlockwise) and fuel consumption quite high but petrol smell very less, and advancing (clockwise) it fuel consumption improve but petrol smell very significant..we can advance it to only certain extent just before the butterfly valve opens, when it opens timing will shoot to 1+++ rpm..car accelerate smoother without much torque..next i'll check the spark plug..thanx for the info..1.5/1.6 tps is very identical and oso have same number of pins..now i'm using an original apm made tps instead of recond tps which come with the 1.6 tb..thanx bro:cheers: