Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

Talks is useless.....

Wanna know more, meet at TT......test drive n see the real thing is better than forum lah......

I oredy fedup explaining in forum n kena flame from others

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

as far as i remembe.r. powersone sage that produce almost 150. are super-charged.

i once talk to one of their dumbo sales man in sunway... during the youth festival... darn.. brainless shit! i feel more stupid talking to him..
my last question after i i piss off is..
" hmm.. so .. have you all done any of my car model before? hyundai scoupe?? "
" yes yes, never do before.. "
" and.. after talking to you for so long... what you are trying to tell me that i SHOULD NOT SEND MY CAR for you all to do tuning and so on??"
" YES"
" alright.. thank you.. now i know what you are capable of..." while i leave the booth which they proudly shows their super charged saga and perdana..

hahahahh idiot sales... whoever the owner , please just sack this guy..

Bear in mind, the new Mivec 4G15 engine terbalik in the new Colt, produce 100bhp ++

Our normal saga and wira with 4G15 produce shit power, coz using shit system maaaa

Just like "Got brawns, no brains".......cannot fully utilized 4G15 power.....

 

[tofu_manic]

Your vocabulary of 4G15 is not DEEP enough......have u heard of SUPER SAGA tuning in the 95's ?

haha

You are not qualified coz you're not a MME racer/tuner. Nor for me to say 4G15 canot make 130bhp.....

Please lah, u only say masuk stroker kit then can hit 130 hp edi! YOU are not being specific...YOU are being MISLEADING! As obviously u have MISLED retrofit into thinking that by just putting in a stroker kit, you can instantly get a total of 130hp.

This is not what is needed in a forum. We need clearer statements. If u want to say that you can hit 130 hp with a stroker kit with mods, why not say you can hit a blardy 142 hp with stroker kit kit with mods as proven by the powerzone iswara? Dont tell me you didnt know about this iswara, if you didnt, then YOU dont have a deep enough 4g15 vocabulary

I have heard of supersaga, and yes, it wasd rumoured to make 190 hp....and is in a league none of us can achieve, and it was using many custom parts, which i felt was not worth mentioning as not many ppl know the complete details....so why would i want to talk about something im unsure of? Unlike you, i only talk about things that i really know about, (unless i mention otherwise) or talk about things that I HAVE DONE, comprende?

So, if you are uncertain or unsure, plz donot make statements too fast, no a very good way to post in forums.

Besides what you have said :
"1. proper PnP
2. full balancing
3. blueprinting
4. ideal exhaust setup (4-2-1 tuned-length header/1.8 inch piping/ori wira backbox)
5. 26x degree cam profile"

There are so many things you missed out, what you have stated are puny upgrades of what normal civillian do. Find a real tuner that have experience to share with u, that will be better for you before u post again.

I have posted the above modifications as this was what was needed to achieve the 142 hp, as proven by the powerzone iswara. So what was wrong with it? I made it specific and so that retrofit knows what is needed to achieve such a figure.

Hohoho puny upgrades? So the 142 hp is 'PUNY'? YOUR sentra how many hp ?

After all, learn from the right ppl, not GUESSING or ASSUMING.

UNLIKE YOU, I TALK ABOUT MODS WHICH I HAVE ALREADY DONE MYSELF, AND NOT PULL STUFF OUTTA MY @$$ and say

"Eh my fren say ah, do this do that can hit 130 hp..." and then misled forumers into thinking that by just using a stroker kit u can whack 130 hp....as obviously proven by how retrofit was misled

Please lah, i am genuinely trying to help 4g15 ppl and telling them stuff which can be done, which i have done, not simply hearsay, which i myself learnt over many years, do not waste forum space with your rambling and no genuine facts....

Please, do check my posts and compare them to ur own, generally urs include just flaming/racism/no contribution at all, which ultimately led to the deletion of your own thread, have some humility, dont be so proud

 

[tofu_manic]

Talks is useless.....

Wanna know more, meet at TT......test drive n see the real thing is better than forum lah......

I oredy fedup explaining in forum n kena flame from others

Who flamed you? Care to say?

retrofit, Here are some additional info regarding what u can do to ur 4g15

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...2-4g15p-can-do-something-on-this-plant-3.html

Eh, coincidentally, are some posts made by soyouthinkyoucandrive = proton63t

So based to sytucd, what makes YOU so qualified to type such meaningless posts? with so many questions i asked yet unanswered?

 

[K_Takuya]

To all,

Its not wrong to share what we hear or what we experienced, but if theres a conflict between opinions or methods, please discuss in a very gentlemen way, this is what i hope forumners did. Do not say who are right or wrong. If we feel that the other party is wrong, keep asking him questions, politely, until that party is proven wrong by himself.

Every threads have no limits of pages to use/discuss, so we can ask questions as much as we want, but again,please don't say who is right or wrong..it may hurt feelings..


Have a nice day

K_Takuya

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

I only salute to ppl talks real, drives real car that I can see with me EYES, TOUCH THE ENGINE WITH MY HANDS.

So, tofu, you got your own ideas, and talk your theory.

I dont talk ideas, I talk with real life experience.

As I said, if u think N/A 4G15 canot produce 130bhp, and misleading. I challege you for a big FEED at Jagoya, deal ? At least good food is worth the debate with ppl like you.

You want facts, come out and TT, dun argue so much here, pain to the eyes only. :stupid:

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

UNLIKE YOU, I TALK ABOUT MODS WHICH I HAVE ALREADY DONE MYSELF, AND NOT PULL STUFF OUTTA MY @$$ and say

"Eh my fren say ah, do this do that can hit 130 hp..." and then misled forumers into thinking that by just using a stroker kit u can whack 130 hp....as obviously proven by how retrofit was misled

Please lah, i am genuinely trying to help 4g15 ppl and telling them stuff which can be done, which i have done, not simply hearsay, which i myself learnt over many years, do not waste forum space with your rambling and no genuine facts....

Please, do check my posts and compare them to ur own, generally urs include just flaming/racism/no contribution at all, which ultimately led to the deletion of your own thread, have some humility, dont be so proud

HOW MUCH MONEY U SPENT ? 100k ?

 

[tofu_manic]

K_takuya, i apologise sincerely if anything i typed was ungentlemanly, i have realised that it is useless to reply to this fella, i have actually done what u are suggesting: which is to ask questions, till the other side shaddap but there has been no changes, and as such i feel that it is no longer worth my time to re-act to what this guys sez, and instead focus more on the topic at hand

Thank you, though, for being fair

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

K_takuya, i apologise sincerely if anything i typed was ungentlemanly, i have realised that it is useless to reply to this fella, i have actually done what u are suggesting: which is to ask questions, till the other side shaddap but there has been no changes, and as such i feel that it is no longer worth my time to re-act to what this guys sez, and instead focus more on the topic at hand

Thank you, though, for being fair

Plz donot use CAPS....You are shouting, making a scene of yourself....

ARE YOU A TUNER FOR MITSUBISHI ENGINES ?

 

[tofu_manic]

I only salute to ppl talks real, drives real car that I can see with me EYES, TOUCH THE ENGINE WITH MY HANDS.

So, tofu, you got your own ideas, and talk your theory.

I dont talk ideas, I talk with real life experience.

As I said, if u think N/A 4G15 canot produce 130bhp, and misleading. I challege you for a big FEED at Jagoya, deal ? At least good food is worth the debate with ppl like you.

You want facts, come out and TT, dun argue so much here, pain to the eyes only. :stupid:

As adviced by k_takuya, i will tok nicely

1. I dont talk ideas. I talk with what i have done with my car. The same cannot be sed about u, who fitted a tupperware under your hood.

2. Please improve your understanding of the english language, then you will see that i have never meant that NA 4g15 cannot produce 130bhp.

3. I do not need facts. I know facts. Real-life facts. I do not become rich by forcing you to believe that i have done up my ride, hence i will not bother.

 

[tofu_manic]

HOW MUCH MONEY U SPENT ? 100k ?

Please do not tell others not to use CAPS when you yourself obviously enjoy using it as well. Influenced by you.

How much money i have spent is none of your business and i do not become richer by telling you how much i have spent. Hence i feel no need to tell you how much i have spent.

 

[tofu_manic]

Plz donot use CAPS....You are shouting, making a scene of yourself....

ARE YOU A TUNER FOR MITSUBISHI ENGINES ?

Oh my god, this is very funny! You have just told me not to use CAPS, then very blatantly used CAPS yourself? haha omigod im rolling on the floor laffing hope boss dont catch me

Im not a tuner for mitsubishi engines, but neither are you, and yes i do know more about 4g15 than you ever will, as i see potential in it, unlike you who look down on it, saying it is a useless and ancient engine, eversince you started driving a nissan sentra

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

IS YOUR CAR A TRACK CAR ? :hmmmm:

 

[tofu_manic]

no it is not and stop going off topic

 

[azrin95]

Wow...wow...Bro....calm down....

All suggestion are most welcome from our senior....

Just want to ask....is turbo pempered?......that need look and take care of it seldomly....

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

no it is not and stop going off topic

Ur car is a puny daily car and u says 4G15 canot make 130bhp.

Ok, for ur mentality, I can accept.....Enjoy ur car

Sorry, I thought ur level have reached track/rally tuning

I personally owns a 4G15, highcam, PNP, skimmed, and some secret ingredient and I already made 90bhp.

If u say 4G18 stroker kit only produce 108bhp, and that the best the tuner can get.....Only 2 possiblities.....

Either the tuner dont have skills, or the owner doesnt have money to invest.

 

[tofu_manic]

Ur car is a puny daily car and u says 4G15 canot make 130bhp.

Ok, for ur mentality, I can accept.....Enjoy ur car

Sorry, I thought ur level have reached track/rally tuning

I personally owns a 4G15, highcam, PNP, skimmed, and some secret ingredient and I already made 90bhp.

If u say 4G18 stroker kit only produce 108bhp, and that the best the tuner can get.....Only 2 possiblities.....

Either the tuner dont have skills, or the owner doesnt have money to invest.

Omigod this is really funny! heeheehee

Why?

1. You really do not understand english do you? I have never mentioned a stroked 4g15 cannot hit 130 hp? If so, then wat for la i mention powerzone one can whack 142 hp? I sed a stroker kit alone will not net you 130 hp? Isit so hard to understand? heeheehee

 

[tofu_manic]

and yes, it will see some dragstrip action

 

[williamclw]

my car no need mod also 86hp

 

[tofu_manic]

my car no need mod also 86hp