Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[azrin95]

Hai all for proton 1.3 & 1.5 driver....:wavey:

What else can we do to upgrade this engine become more powerful....either than convert to the highest capacity engine.

 

[sreeman]

You can change your air filter, do your exhaust

 

[arrowhead]

basic mod :
1. if manual install open pod air filter. if auto trans put drop in k&n or any other high flow filter brand.
2. change plug to iridium
3. extractor change to 421
4. throw away the mid mufler. put bullet. rear mufler chg to s flow is auto trans, if manual put straight flow.
5. use lighten flywheel.
6. use semi racing clutch
7. use lighten cam pulley and adjustable crankpulley.
8. use high performance cam.
9. head port n polish
10. blue printing and balancing.
11. stroker kit (not sure avaiable for campro or not)

advance mod:
1. bolt on turbo setup

super advance mod:
1. bolt on turbo + NOS


*taken from another thread i read - Author: Northiswara*

 

[azrin95]

Last two month i just convert my engine from 1.3 carb to 1.5 injection....the fuel save a little bit right know compare than the old engine....

I've changed flywheel to 1.6.......got pick up a bit la..

My friend said if you want more satisfaction, turbo is the most one.Is it turbo pamper?

 

[biz-da-tech]

yea everything will TUrbo! save cost and u will have the power stright away :)

when u on turbo dont forget ur engine management. that would be needed example Emanage.

 

[retrofit1]

1.5 block with 1.6 stroker kit is one way to go also to increase power.consider cheap than swap engine.

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

change to DOHC lah.....

 

[azrin95]

Yeah...stroker kit is the cheapest one...I've search the market...to put in the stroker kit is around 1.5k is enough...

To bot in is around 3k and above...

My friend recommend to bot the engine....

 

[unknown1x]

bot engine is the fastest way to produce highest power.. but bare in mind.. to bot your engine. these are few things that happen or you need to bare;

- changing to lower cr.
- piggy back or new ecu to support the changes.
- new cooling system to support the heat.

most important in any mods is.. decides how much u wants to produce and how far you willing to spend...

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

Here's some facts from a sifu share with me last nite

STROKER KIT for 4G15 (RM 2000+-)
With proper tuning and modifications, able to produce 130bhp from this little 1.6 stroker kit upgrade, a very rough but durable engine.

4G92 (Sohc) RM3000+-
Stock condition is good and produce about 95bhp, with good torque and FC wise. After proper modification, able to output 160bhp after 2.0 stroker kit is installed.

BOT (Instant power) RM2000+-
This is the ultimate, BOT has no limit, so depending on how much u can afford, and the maximum cablity your engine can take, your boost has no limitation. But FC will be high.....Remember its RM2.70 now

G-Reddy Emanage Blue (RM900)
Forget about whatever engine first, this E-Manage, with proper 3D tuning through out the powerband range, a good tuner will do their best to balance out every RPM range, mapping the best balanced AirFuel Ratio, so your engine perform near to perfect condition, smooth, less stress.....That means more power, more FC saving and more accuraccy.

So, tk a calculator n figure out how u gonna spend for the mod, and the future maintenance factor.

IMHO, I'd get a 4G92 first, the stroke it to 2000cc, then get E-Manage, is a pretty good combination for a daily use car

 

[azrin95]

Wow...really impressive the idea given by our senior...

Tq...all....Hehhehe 2.70 now....hope will reduce this September.....:)

 

[retrofit1]

Here's some facts from a sifu share with me last nite

STROKER KIT for 4G15 (RM 2000+-)
With proper tuning and modifications, able to produce 130bhp from this little 1.6 stroker kit upgrade, a very rough but durable engine.

4G92 (Sohc) RM3000+-
Stock condition is good and produce about 95bhp, with good torque and FC wise. After proper modification, able to output 160bhp after 2.0 stroker kit is installed.

BOT (Instant power) RM2000+-
This is the ultimate, BOT has no limit, so depending on how much u can afford, and the maximum cablity your engine can take, your boost has no limitation. But FC will be high.....Remember its RM2.70 now

G-Reddy Emanage Blue (RM900)
Forget about whatever engine first, this E-Manage, with proper 3D tuning through out the powerband range, a good tuner will do their best to balance out every RPM range, mapping the best balanced AirFuel Ratio, so your engine perform near to perfect condition, smooth, less stress.....That means more power, more FC saving and more accuraccy.

So, tk a calculator n figure out how u gonna spend for the mod, and the future maintenance factor.

IMHO, I'd get a 4G92 first, the stroke it to 2000cc, then get E-Manage, is a pretty good combination for a daily use car

Is it true with stroker kit can get 130 bhp?Thinking of doing that....

 

[tofu_manic]

sorry to say but it is unlikely the stroker kit alone will bring the hp to 130

just think about it: the stroker kit, from a waja 4g18 which originally gives out 106 hp...and this is with a better breathing head, a 4-valve per cylinder setup

from this alone u can see that is not probable that just by swapping a 4g18's crank and pistons, u can make a 4g15 with just 3-valve per cylinder suddenly outperform the 4g18 by 24 hp

u need many mods which will complement each other (meaning every mod u do is designed for a particular rev range)

stroking ur 4g15 will result in a slitely weaker high end, but a fatter powerband curve; this is due to the nature of longer stroke engines

complementing mods would mean the right exhaust setup, cam profile, head PnP, carburettor size (venturi/main jet/air corrector)

do check out powerzone's 142 hp iswara and see what was done to achieve such a figure...

what they did:
1. proper PnP
2. full balancing
3. blueprinting
4. ideal exhaust setup (4-2-1 tuned-length header/1.8 inch piping/ori wira backbox)
5. 26x degree cam profile

 

[tofu_manic]

Is it true with stroker kit can get 130 bhp?Thinking of doing that....

like i sed earlier, unlikely to hit the figure, but what i can tell u is, even though u are increasing the displacement by just approx. 100 cc over the 4g15, it feels like u increase more than that

driveability will improve, car has more torque from low-to-mid, u will have power on tap whenever u want it...u will downshift less as there is more available torque to lug u around

fc diff from the 4g15 is negligible, so nothing to worry there

it will be a very good mod for ur daily ride

 

[retrofit1]

like i sed earlier, unlikely to hit the figure, but what i can tell u is, even though u are increasing the displacement by just approx. 100 cc over the 4g15, it feels like u increase more than that

driveability will improve, car has more torque from low-to-mid, u will have power on tap whenever u want it...u will downshift less as there is more available torque to lug u around

fc diff from the 4g15 is negligible, so nothing to worry there

it will be a very good mod for ur daily ride

Thanks Tofu for your reply...I checked with my mechanic,he said that i dun need to change the injector,ecu & wiring if i do stoker kit. But i think have to change la.got confusedAny comments guys?:hmmmm:

 

[retrofit1]

How much it will cost to do wiring plus everthing.Can i get it from halfcut shop? Thanks

 

[tofu_manic]

im not too sure bout that, y dun u give powerzone a call, and chat with them a bit, ask them about the stroker mod...

on the other hand, make things simple lah, just throw in a weber or 2 webers

 

[SoYouThinkYouCanDrive]

sorry to say but it is unlikely the stroker kit alone will bring the hp to 130

just think about it: the stroker kit, from a waja 4g18 which originally gives out 106 hp...and this is with a better breathing head, a 4-valve per cylinder setup

from this alone u can see that is not probable that just by swapping a 4g18's crank and pistons, u can make a 4g15 with just 3-valve per cylinder suddenly outperform the 4g18 by 24 hp

u need many mods which will complement each other (meaning every mod u do is designed for a particular rev range)

stroking ur 4g15 will result in a slitely weaker high end, but a fatter powerband curve; this is due to the nature of longer stroke engines

complementing mods would mean the right exhaust setup, cam profile, head PnP, carburettor size (venturi/main jet/air corrector)

do check out powerzone's 142 hp iswara and see what was done to achieve such a figure...

what they did:
1. proper PnP
2. full balancing
3. blueprinting
4. ideal exhaust setup (4-2-1 tuned-length header/1.8 inch piping/ori wira backbox)
5. 26x degree cam profile

Your vocabulary of 4G15 is not DEEP enough......have u heard of SUPER SAGA tuning in the 95's ?

haha

You are not qualified coz you're not a MME racer/tuner. Nor for me to say 4G15 canot make 130bhp.....

So, if you are uncertain or unsure, plz donot make statements too fast, no a very good way to post in forums.

Besides what you have said :
"1. proper PnP
2. full balancing
3. blueprinting
4. ideal exhaust setup (4-2-1 tuned-length header/1.8 inch piping/ori wira backbox)
5. 26x degree cam profile"

There are so many things you missed out, what you have stated are puny upgrades of what normal civillian do. Find a real tuner that have experience to share with u, that will be better for you before u post again.

After all, learn from the right ppl, not GUESSING or ASSUMING.

 

[unknown1x]

as far as i remembe.r. powersone sage that produce almost 150. are super-charged.

i once talk to one of their dumbo sales man in sunway... during the youth festival... darn.. brainless shit! i feel more stupid talking to him..
my last question after i i piss off is..
" hmm.. so .. have you all done any of my car model before? hyundai scoupe?? "
" yes yes, never do before.. "
" and.. after talking to you for so long... what you are trying to tell me that i SHOULD NOT SEND MY CAR for you all to do tuning and so on??"
" YES"
" alright.. thank you.. now i know what you are capable of..." while i leave the booth which they proudly shows their super charged saga and perdana..

hahahahh idiot sales... whoever the owner , please just sack this guy..

 

[retrofit1]

Here's some facts from a sifu share with me last nite

STROKER KIT for 4G15 (RM 2000+-)
With proper tuning and modifications, able to produce 130bhp from this little 1.6 stroker kit upgrade, a very rough but durable engine.

4G92 (Sohc) RM3000+-
Stock condition is good and produce about 95bhp, with good torque and FC wise. After proper modification, able to output 160bhp after 2.0 stroker kit is installed.

BOT (Instant power) RM2000+-
This is the ultimate, BOT has no limit, so depending on how much u can afford, and the maximum cablity your engine can take, your boost has no limitation. But FC will be high.....Remember its RM2.70 now

G-Reddy Emanage Blue (RM900)
Forget about whatever engine first, this E-Manage, with proper 3D tuning through out the powerband range, a good tuner will do their best to balance out every RPM range, mapping the best balanced AirFuel Ratio, so your engine perform near to perfect condition, smooth, less stress.....That means more power, more FC saving and more accuraccy.

So, tk a calculator n figure out how u gonna spend for the mod, and the future maintenance factor.

IMHO, I'd get a 4G92 first, the stroke it to 2000cc, then get E-Manage, is a pretty good combination for a daily use car

Any secret for the stroker kit that sifoo told you? share it here....if you dont mind la