Oops!? I poured Bardahl 1 into my auto tranny...

[LesleyAprotto]

In desperation for a smoother ride, I poured in about 100ml of Bardahl One into

my automatic gearbox.....

Total capacity of ATF including the torque converter is about 6.25 litres

After pouring in, I began to feel scared and wonder whats gonna happen?

What are the consequences and what are the effects?

Can you guys out there please advise?

 

[stupidcar]

Im beginning to doubt do you even have a Beetle.

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

In desperation for a smoother ride, I poured in about 100ml of Bardahl One into

my automatic gearbox.....

Total capacity of ATF including the torque converter is about 6.25 litres

After pouring in, I began to feel scared and wonder whats gonna happen?

What are the consequences and what are the effects?

Can you guys out there please advise?

I can't wait to hear what happens. Do only then worry.

 

[Izso]

Understand what Bardahl 1 does and what it's meant for, then figure it out yourself.

 

[DanzEterna]

should be no problem rite?

 

[ehdrian]

Why don't you ask first before pouring?..Too late to be worried

 

[Izso]

100ml isn't much. But looking at the description :

B-1 Oil Supplement maintains new car performance and increases mileage by reducing engine friction and wear. Bardahl's polar attraction formula clings to metal, forming a strong molecular film. Bardahl B-1 helps prevent varnish and sludge from forming on valves and lifters.

I'm thinking if it's enough, it'll probably cause slippage of gears in the worst case scenario and you'll get shitty gear changes/performance.

 

[DanzEterna]

hope u have a thick wallet

 

[cvkit17]

Too much, it'll slip. Too little, just some little help in lubricating the gearbox. Same as Tufoil. They recommend to use Tufoil in MT gearbox but only 10ml. Auto gear box? Less than 10ml. So 100ml? I dont knw. Just tell us what happen.

 

[ixeo]

Didn't realize everybody is an engineer these days.

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Im beginning to doubt do you even have a Beetle.

Beetle only cost a few thousand RM la....

Nowadays few thousand RM you can divert from your smartphone budget & Michelin tyre budget which I did.

Not mentioning names but most probably you guys know who they are, are always suspicious in others whom post, they think others are also liar like him...

I was once being a suspect for being SueLee, Sierra333 or even Ms Loli.

Its also hilarious for me to be suspicious of using these usernames...

Some also suspected Steven Pheng of being trying to sell obat by pretending to be a few members on the Coating Needed thread.

Unfortunately, I also replied in the coating needed thread..

They may also jump into conclusion that I am Steven Pheng as well.

Really you guys let your imaginations run wild!

Some even mentioned "DEAD CORPSE" and BEETLE GRAVEYARD LANE" out of own imaginary bluffs
and lies to avenge his anger and jealousy...(refer Abandoned Cars thread)

So, STPcar, if you really dont believe I have a beetle, why not you get ready the LED 3rd brake light
and I bring my beetle to your place to get it fixed?

Dont tell me you are also like SF, run away after I challenge him to post the 4 VW graveyard lane photo in exchange for my VW beetle photo?

So do you have the guts to take up my sincere challenge or run away with tails between the dogs leg just like your friend did?

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I can't wait to hear what happens. Do only then worry.

Gear changes getting smoother....

More quiet......

More responsive so far....

A slight increase in pickup power....

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Understand what Bardahl 1 does and what it's meant for, then figure it out yourself.

From what I learnt, Bardahl 1 is a protective layer of lubricant that clings onto to metal parts with its
polar attraction technology....

Just like those that the Castrol Magnatec has, but Bardahl 1 is in a more concentrated form & pure,
not mixed into the Castrol engine oil.

I saw the Bardahl oil less challenge, where the test run a Proton Wira from PJ to JB, then to Penang or somewhere north of Malaysia without any engine oil in the engine after treating it with Bardahl 1 and back to PJ again!.

I was so impressed, as it was done by Cycle & Carriage, with AAM officials as inspectors.

So I "guess" it can do some good for my auto transmission as well...

But before this I have tried pouring in one 350ml can into my power steering system.

Wow ! The result is super fantastic!

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should be no problem rite?

Already second day running.....

No problem so far....:hmmmm:

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Why don't you ask first before pouring?..Too late to be worried

Done some homework before, did the same on my power steering system no problem...

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Too much, it'll slip. Too little, just some little help in lubricating the gearbox. Same as Tufoil. They recommend to use Tufoil in MT gearbox but only 10ml. Auto gear box? Less than 10ml. So 100ml? I dont knw. Just tell us what happen.

Total ATF capacity is 6.25 litres

I only poured 100ml

In percentage wise its only 100/6,250 which is barely 1.6% of the content.

Probably I hope so.... its only a drip in the ocean...

Do you think its OK?

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Didn't realize everybody is an engineer these days.

Yeah....

Times are bad....

Got to get to know the cheapest way of getting the best run for my cars...

Little bit send to specialist and wait in the comfort of the aircond customer lounge is not my cup of tea.

Sometimes got to be engineer, got to be doctor as well...

Thats what internet is for!

 

[stupidcar]

Btw, my leds are still prototype.
Er, dude, why do you need to exchange? Why can't you show your ride here?

 

[Izso]

Lesley - this is why people always complain. You are already adamant / firm on what you're doing is 'correct' and yet you ask the obvious question when you already are dead set on your response being the correct one.

If it works for you then good for you. Share your experience and just tell it as it is. Not ask an obvious question that will result in people firing you or questioning your sincerity.

So right now - if you ask me - Magnatec is rubbish. Clinging onto engine internals like that cannot be a good thing. Everything has a lifespan especially when exposed to extreme heats you get in the engine. So say this clingy thing clings on and eventually wears out, what happens to it? Can you say : very-hard-to-remove-sludge?

 

[kazukimy]

wah, until challenge here and there ady,

 

[kcng]

i sense a super troll here....

 

[stupidcar]

Because you are influenced by SomeFellow, you are brain washed to be suspicious of my claim that I have a beetle.

Just want you to know that I dont post lies and made up cock & bull stories like SomeFellow !

He may be jealous of me, but made you to be scapegoat of his jealousy attitude.

He knew that Im gonna cornered him so he used you, so next time be smart, dont be influenced by bad mouthing pm he sent you.....

Anyway if you really want to see my beetle, it will cost you something...

If you wanna talk no cents and nonsense, then let your suspicious be.....

Just wanna make you learn that Im not like the liar, posting 4VW beetle graveyard dead corpse nonsense.....(refer Abandoned Cars thread)

He may be able to pull a fast one on others, but not me....:thumpdown:

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Its my first trial, so I didnt know how the effects gonna be OK?

Didnt hear anyone complaining....

Cant you quote some post reference on that? Probably I overlooked and didnt read it....

Now look, this Bardahl One has been around for many years....

If there should be any "very hard to remove sludge" or bad effects, it would have been removed from the shelves long long time ago....:flybye:

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Sorry Kimi if I sounded raw and rude...

Just wanted to exchange something for something....

hahaha....:proud:

Just like poker game....

He had not seen my card, but I upped, he backed out saying got no time, so I can laugh the hell
out of his cowardness....

hahaha....

But this dude is the victim, the mastermind is behind this poker game where the mastermind is damn frustrated now!

I still don't get it. Why do you have to exchange something for something. Unless you are hiding something. So you said he is a coward, then come, show me your Beetle as soon as you saw my post, right now.
Come one, you are 44 years old, don't be childish. Calling people childish but you are actually worse.
I have known SF for awhile now, even met him in person, he isn't bad.
One can judge a reception of a person by seeing the likes or dislikes, just go and see how SF fares in this. Pretty amazing i'd say.
Talking about age, 44 years old should be able to read the instructions and think before one do something. Btw, I have my own type of common sense, i don't need someone to lecture be to do this or do that.

Cheers and have a good day.

 

[vr2turbo]

From what I learnt, Bardahl 1 is a protective layer of lubricant that clings onto to metal parts with its
polar attraction technology....

Just like those that the Castrol Magnatec has, but Bardahl 1 is in a more concentrated form & pure,
not mixed into the Castrol engine oil.

I saw the Bardahl oil less challenge, where the test run a Proton Wira from PJ to JB, then to Penang or somewhere north of Malaysia without any engine oil in the engine after treating it with Bardahl 1 and back to PJ again!.

I was so impressed, as it was done by Cycle & Carriage, with AAM officials as inspectors.

So I "guess" it can do some good for my auto transmission as well...

But before this I have tried pouring in one 350ml can into my power steering system.

Wow ! The result is super fantastic!

I have no time for your other side topics in this topic but I will reply to the actual topic at hand if it helps.
As mentioned by you Bardahl 1 was tested by C&C but that is as an engine oil additive not ATF. If usable in ATF wouldn't they test it that way and advertise it too?
Here is why. Engine internals are all moving metal parts and if it works as said, good for the engine. It might even be good for manual gear boxes as the internal are about the same and using almost similar oil except thicker viscosity.
Having said that, Auto boxes works differently. They have wet clutch submerged in the ATF and ATF is made that way to protect and run the AT boxes. Using some oil meant for other application, well I don't know what will happen. But since you have already poured that in and testing it and runs well then good for you.
However there are ATF additives in the market too, so if you require something for your Auto box, should have gone for that. Eg. Lubeguard....

 

[Izso]

Its my first trial, so I didnt know how the effects gonna be OK?

Didnt hear anyone complaining....

Cant you quote some post reference on that? Probably I overlooked and didnt read it....

Now look, this Bardahl One has been around for many years....

If there should be any "very hard to remove sludge" or bad effects, it would have been removed from the shelves long long time ago....:flybye:

I don't know what problem you have with other members but this stops here. Any more and warnings will be issued. If you truly are 44 years old, talking to 2 much young 20+ blokes and challenging them is kinda childish. Act your age and be done with this argumentative attitude.

Engine temperatures are much higher than ATF so if this additive was designed for the engine, then it should stay in the engine. You must know by now that ATF has much thicker viscosity compared to engine oil. Ever ask yourself why? Adding in something that increases the viscosity or modifies the oil properties, or even 'cling' onto metal (I have no idea how it works, i'm just quoting you) means it'll probably run smoother. True. Slip more too. Clutch probably will wear out faster too since it can't engage properly. If you read about how Lubeguard and other ATF additives work, they prevent slippage and all. A little slippery additive in the engine might be useful but in the atf.. good luck.

So you ask if you should add another 100ml more? Sure. Add it. I'm very interested to know when it'll break down.

 

[vr2turbo]

To be frank, I had already tested on manual gearbox with Bardahl 2 already...(Bardahl 2 is of thicker viscocity)

The results are very promising, in terms of reducing noise and responsiveness, not to mention the protection on the metal parts especially the bearings and gear itself.

The viscocity of Bardahl 1 is only slightly thicker than the ATF, so I "guess" it wont generate much
damage as it flows just as quickly as the ATF

After running it for more than 3 days, I now intend to add another 100ml ....

What do you guys think?

Based on what they were made for, I would have tried Bardahl 1 in my MT box but not Bardahl 2. Manual Gear oil used to be straight 90 viscosity, now is 80w-90 and I am paying good money to get 75w-90 and then add Bardahl 2 to thicken it again?
Bardahl 2 is of thick viscosity to prevent oil burning, means getting through worn pistons and rings.

Well, it is your auto box, add what you want. Your box could break down or run better, then you would have made a great discovery, probably can sell the idea back to C&C....

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I don't know what problem you have with other members but this stops here. Any more and warnings will be issued. If you truly are 44 years old, talking to 2 much young 20+ blokes and challenging them is kinda childish. Act your age and be done with this argumentative attitude.

Engine temperatures are much higher than ATF so if this additive was designed for the engine, then it should stay in the engine. You must know by now that ATF has much thicker viscosity compared to engine oil. Ever ask yourself why? Adding in something that increases the viscosity or modifies the oil properties, or even 'cling' onto metal (I have no idea how it works, i'm just quoting you) means it'll probably run smoother. True. Slip more too. Clutch probably will wear out faster too since it can't engage properly. If you read about how Lubeguard and other ATF additives work, they prevent slippage and all. A little slippery additive in the engine might be useful but in the atf.. good luck.

So you ask if you should add another 100ml more? Sure. Add it. I'm very interested to know when it'll break down.

Yup, was trying to explain on the clutch slipping. My cars are manuals but seen too many damaged auto boxes at my mechanics place, so my latest addition is an auto for my wifey, so have to really take care...

 

[fazidk]

Adoooiiiii x need to 'fight2' lor..we all in zth like 'family' so if one disagree then x point posting in d 1st place..purpose of opening a certain subject is for DISCUSSIONS n OPINIONS...thus d latter being various both positive n negative (some wld agree others may x)...that's d whole idea rite..

Bro Lesley...since ur already trying d oil out n u say so far x problems just give us feedback here..I x try :) it but it'll b interesting to know d outcome on ur part...cheers