Lol... Not complaining but the response here is overwhelming. Thanks to all.
I decided to test the handling again this evening. Then, I had a crazy thought while coming back from work. I am comparing my DB8 handling with a Satria R3 handling. Yes, I admit in the R3 I was more comfortable and confident in corners. But then, I was not as fast in the R3 as I was in my DB8. For example, I took a corner in the R3 at about 110km/h easily. In my DB8, it was difficult but I was travelling at about 130km/h. Not a sharp corner. It's a long corner. I started questioning myself, would I have felt that confident in the R3 at the same speed? I honestly don't know.
Ok, I see many are asking what is the car for, track or street. Here is my answer. My car is not going to be on the tracks. If I ever had the chance, then maybe. But most of the time or all of the time, it is going to be a street car. So, what I actually expect is for the suspension to be good on the street. Like I mentioned above, in a long high speed corner, I should be able to take it at a higher speed confidently. If now I can take that corner 130km/h, with a better suspension, I want to feel easy taking that corner at 130km/h or faster. Same for sharper corners, I don't want that feel like I'm gonna be thrown to one side of the road.
GAB's price doesn't differ much from Tein bro, if not mistaken. If Tein is around 4k, then GAB is 3.5k++, If not mistaken, GAB Japan is good. GAB over here is made in Malaysia or Taiwan I don't know, licensed by GAB Japan, something like that and no offense, the ride quality decreases a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've tested both GAB and TEIN, comfort wise, handling wise, TEIN is better, if.....u compare both the street type laaa..as I said before Tein HA/Super Street are ok for street use as it's name suggests, but not in tracks, and again..no offense to both brands, Im just giving my opinion based on my experience.
The price is up because of the currency exchange. I bought my Tein 1.5 years ago for 3.6k. Now the price is more than 4k. U might want to consider Tanabe?? or a hybrid suspension set up. I've tested Koni absorbers with H&R springs. good on streets and tracks. Anyway Koni adjustables only have Soft-Hard, no hi-lo...dunno if they've produced the hi-lo soft-hard now, but H&R springs is one of the best if available for your car. tested GAB with H&R, didn't get the best feeling as I put in Koni with H&R.
I heard that D2 is building it's reputations now. Few of my frens are using. Springs are harder than Tein, better on tracks.
U might want to look into that.
Anyway, it's all based on your preferences...street use or wherever else.
I don't know whether madman meant GAB Japan or Malaysia. Will check with him on this.
I see that you have tried many different set-ups and I appreciate how you have put your experience in words here. Thanks. If a brand new Tein is about RM4000, I can get it, although it's gonna need more time. I also think it's wiser to get a brand new set then getting a used one and refurbishing it. I won't know how it was abused previously. But when I refurbish, will it be as good as new?
tein super street very 'comfy"...meaning too soft bro..handling ok ok only.
tein HA, very good handling, even on the softest setting, still quite hard..but i think considered still comfy la..i liked this one.
i also tried Zeal...toooo stiff...but freaking good handling and makes you have balls of steel.
the best of all is FLex...this is by far the best...but the cost is not the same bro.. even halfcut/2nd hand. flex not so easy to get also.
Okay, now I know that Super Street is not so good in handling. HA and Flex is better. But may I know why you say Flex is better than HA bro? What are you using now?
ok....whatever brand doesn't matter as long as it has a reputation..
even locally made brand like HWL,titan,rcs can give u the best result provided u choosen the correct spring rate and experiment on suitable bump/rebound rate....
so my choice would be hi-lo+soft hard suspension....personally i like the HWL....but RCS product so tempting since it utilizing slow/fast bump rebound intelligent damping valve.....awesome handling when u need it and comfort when u want it...
Bro, you said that it's ok to even go for local brands. Not to say I'm looking down on them but how about the quality of these local brands? In terms of durability? Rust (I just found out that we need to be careful on this as well)??
Another question bro, how to know the correct spring rate? I know those are some figures and I have also googled what those figures mean. Still don't understand. Mind to educate me more?
Bro TS, i read through this article last time b4 i decided on my coilover. I think u should too...
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For me personally, i strongly agree with bro "pomen_GTR", as long as u know exactly what u want, i.e. the spring rate etc and for what purpose is ur coilover? track or daily driving? etc...
Brand doesn't matter! Im using GAB SS and so far no complaint. And its cheap to service as well if u need to
Thank you for the link. It certainly taught me what I need to look for in a suspension. Btw, how long have you been using this GAB SS and how many times have you serviced them so far?
ddv : I think suspension is a personal preference thing. Some folks here have said Tein is comfy and yet I've never come across a Tein-ed car that I think is comfy. Better you go for a test run in a Tein car and decide for yourself what it is you want to achieve.
I've sat in a GAB HA (M'sia mari model) EK Civic and the fella purposely drove over potholes and speed bumps and such at break neck speeds to show the capability of the suspension. Not bad if I may say so myself.
But my ultimate favorite is the Koni Yellow + Eibach prokit combination. What it feels like is comfort at slow speeds but once you really give it the beans, the koni seems to stiffen up. I suspect it has a control valve that stiffens up the abs under pressure and works normally when no pressure. Eibach lowers the car too.
I've yet to try this but local brand RCS custom makes your suspension and it even come with a bumpsteer kit. That's a good thing!
Thanks for the clarification. You are suggesting that I sit in other cars to feel them myself. I don't know if this is relevant but I'm still asking. Let's say a Perdana with Tein SS. I sit in it and I happen to like it and I decide to get it. I install it in my DB8, will the feeling be the same assuming everything else that plays a part are the same? I mean what I want to know is will the effect of the exact same Brand and Series be the same on 2 different cars?
Any idea what is the price range for the RCS suspensions?
The Koni Yellow, is this the one:
Adjustable koni depan belakang honda ferio eg sr4 - Car Accessories & Parts for sale Selangor - Mudah.my
For me, i would say Tein Type HA as i'm using it currently for 6 years already.. no problem at all.. no leaking or whatever.. comfort sometimes it depends to your tyre too bro... if you are having low profile tyres i guess comfort sure gone.. like mine, when go through those yellow lines, was the most headache ones.. but taking cornering was good with the type HA.. like bro AD said, even the softest setting will still feel hard.. haha.. but i've tried to sit in bro mines998's car where he also had Tein type HA, but his car's comfort was good.. why? I think mainly because he is using 245/45/17 semi slick while i'm on 225/35/20..So no doubt ride will be also harder..
Another Tein HA fan... Starting to feel that HA is the way I should go.
if u wanna buy refurbished TEIN HA... can check this out:
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this is forumer BESIXTEEN in this forum. quite reasonably priced imho....comes with 6 months warranty somemore
im using flex in my EG.....at softest setting its not too bad.. quite comfy.. but still significantly stiffer than my kenari's stock suspension :P
yes, u can use EG suspension. if u change to aftermarket rear lower control arm like hardrace, skunk2, blox, etc etc....ull have to use EK suspension
as for GAB....i asked GAB SS for EK its about 2.2k at kakimotor some time ago...not 3.5k. for EGs price should be roughly the same. and like i said in some other thread... i have considered selling off my Tein Flex (for EK) and get me a set of GAB SS with 12/10kgmm spring rates heh heh heh
RCS....good....but expect to pay around RM5k.
Bro, are you referring to GAB SS Japan or Malaysia?
Why do you prefer the GAB SS compared to the Tein Flex? Why and how do you choose 12/10kgmm spring rates?
dude, im on tein superstreet...... i can give u a a feel-ride if u want.... maybe can help u a bit on ur decision....
Very nice of you bro. Where are you located?
How nice if everyone is like you?
Everyone with these suspensions, angkat tangan:
1. Tein HA
2. Tein Super Street
3. Tein Flex
4. Tein Mono Flex
5. GAB SS
6. Koni Yellow + Eibach spring
7. Aragosta (don't know why but I like the name)
8. Spoon
9. Any other suspension you think is good and recommend me
You let me sit in your car and test the handling, I belanja you makan at mamak as long as less than RM10. Hehe.
