Can GTI 4G93 with MIVEC head mod up to 200HP on wheel?

[Ceffy_999]

Hi guys,

Just wondering anyone try before on this project?

And can this setup achieve 200hp on wheel?

If anyone tried before mind to share the spec of the engine?

GTI 4G93 engine 1.8L
MIVEC head
high-lift of cam
port-polish
engine balance
hi-comp piston
racing bearing
racing conrod
& etc....

Or any pro mechanic in 1.8L 4G93 MIVEC?

Plan to build this engine....

Hope someone can help out.

 

[dking91]

Hi guys,

Just wondering anyone try before on this project?

And can this setup achieve 200hp on wheel?

If anyone tried before mind to share the spec of the engine?

GTI 4G93 engine 1.8L
MIVEC head
high-lift of cam
port-polish
engine balance
hi-comp piston
racing bearing
racing conrod
& etc....

Or any pro mechanic in 1.8L 4G93 MIVEC?

Plan to build this engine....

Hope someone can help out.

sure can..almost anything possible when u hv thick wallet :)
go search for other mivec 1.8 mod...such as MAG....

 

[heefmy]

i have ask my mechanic build 1 for me. 180hp on wheel. 1.8l mivec, with emanage. but after that i had it turbo charge. now 280hp on wheel.

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with ur stated, with standalone mayb can achieve 200hp on wheel

 

[Ceffy_999]

i have ask my mechanic build 1 for me. 180hp on wheel. 1.8l mivec, with emanage. but after that i had it turbo charge. now 280hp on wheel.

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with ur stated, with standalone mayb can achieve 200hp on wheel

I see. When you got your 180hp on wheel. Is without aftermarket cam. Right?

And also best to match with GTI 1.8L gearbox or MIVEC gearbox?

And without after market high-lift cam, what's d max RPM rev can the engine rev up to safely?

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I see. When you got your 180hp on wheel. Is without aftermarket cam. Right?

And also best to match with GTI 1.8L gearbox or MIVEC gearbox?

And without after market high-lift cam, what's d max RPM rev can the engine rev up to safely?

GTI 4G93 piston size is 81? Let's say I want to upgrade piston to 82.5 size, what need to be done on the block? Need block guard like B16A convert to B20B.....

 

[carent9]

I have a GSR head but am thinking of downgrading back to stock head because my GSR head seems to be giving me less HP... with the stock head, I plan to upgrade the pistons to a 82mm one...

Would it be ideal or should I stick with teh GSR head?

 

[4gbanger]

not sure the gsr head has high lift cam.. i think mivec head setup is better for na. even turbo gsr wants mivec head to increase their power.

 

[Ceffy_999]

Hi guys,

Just curious because when I saw my friend dyno sheet 153hp on wheel at Dyno Dynamics. Below is his car setup.

4G93 block
MIVEC head
MIVEC cam
S90 Throttle Body
Other mod like filter, exhaust & extractor

What I curious is many ppl claim that with above setup they got 180-190hp on wheel. Is this HP figure they provide is on engine? Not on wheel. Right?

Or my friend engine got problem & should not be getting so less HP?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

I have a GSR head but am thinking of downgrading back to stock head because my GSR head seems to be giving me less HP... with the stock head, I plan to upgrade the pistons to a 82mm one...

Would it be ideal or should I stick with teh GSR head?

If u want to change into bigger piston then better stick with the turbo head...

Hi guys,

Just curious because when I saw my friend dyno sheet 153hp on wheel at Dyno Dynamics. Below is his car setup.

4G93 block
MIVEC head
MIVEC cam
S90 Throttle Body
Other mod like filter, exhaust & extractor

What I curious is many ppl claim that with above setup they got 180-190hp on wheel. Is this HP figure they provide is on engine? Not on wheel. Right?

Or my friend engine got problem & should not be getting so less HP?

200hp 4g93mivec was with performance cam..not the stock mivec cam

 

[Ceffy_999]

If u want to change into bigger piston then better stick with the turbo head...




200hp 4g93mivec was with performance cam..not the stock mivec cam

Which mean 4G93 MIVEC with stock MIVEC cam should get around 150hp & above on wheel only la.
So many ppl claim have 180-190hp. I think that HP reading is on engine... Haha...

 

[4gbanger]

sometime different dyno shop different figure also.. dont quickly believe if they has 180-190hp figure unless u know what they done to the engine. if u dont believe, poison some newbie driving stock evo to do dyno and see how much it clocks.. hehe

 

[mADmAN]

Hi guys,

Just curious because when I saw my friend dyno sheet 153hp on wheel at Dyno Dynamics. Below is his car setup.

4G93 block
MIVEC head
MIVEC cam
S90 Throttle Body
Other mod like filter, exhaust & extractor

What I curious is many ppl claim that with above setup they got 180-190hp on wheel. Is this HP figure they provide is on engine? Not on wheel. Right?

Or my friend engine got problem & should not be getting so less HP?

Dyno Dynamics is also known as the "heart breaker" dyno...they report significantly lower figures than the more common DynoJet machine

based on the dyno dynamics figures i would assume it would push above 175whp on a dynojet.. best way to confirm is of course to tell ur friend to strap the car onto a dynojet

 

[heefmy]

I see. When you got your 180hp on wheel. Is without aftermarket cam. Right?

And also best to match with GTI 1.8L gearbox or MIVEC gearbox?

And without after market high-lift cam, what's d max RPM rev can the engine rev up to safely?

Ya i got 180 hp without aftermarket high cam. Match with 1.8l gb. My max rpm rev is 8500.my list of modify as below
Port n polish
Lighten n balancing
Lighten flywheel lighten crank
Emanage
Mivec heaad n wiring

But now is totally diff. Coz i had turbo charge it.
I turbo charge it coz not enough power when at sepang track. Straight road lose to many car. Actually depend u application for track or road use.

---------- Post added at 12:20 AM ---------- 6 hour anti-bump limit - Previous post was at 12:14 AM ----------

I have a GSR head but am thinking of downgrading back to stock head because my GSR head seems to be giving me less HP... with the stock head, I plan to upgrade the pistons to a 82mm one...

Would it be ideal or should I stick with teh GSR head?

Head is no diff bro, gsr cam setting is for turbo, na cam is diff lift n duration. Fully balance the engine help much bro. Compression also need take consideration.

 

[4gbanger]

my friend drives a wira with 1.6L mivec. not much mods like e-manage, ngk cable n plug, 4-1 header + exhaust, open pod clocking 140+ hp can easily tailgate 1.8L turbocharged car.

 

[BudakSiol!]

Isn't there a picture going around right with a 1.8 Mivec producing over 200whp? Of course I don't expect it to be streetable la.

Anyway what are the reputable 4G93/Mivec workshops around KL/PJ? Only know of MH Tuner & Prodrag. Anybody care to add on?


Okay found the picture, here you go.... 236whp! Madness!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=499743333387727&set=pb.100000561938109.-2207520000.1349610003&type=1&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash4%2F384201_499743333387727_1881218965_n.jpg&size=640%2C480

 

[receiver]

Just sharing my setup;

4g93 block with 82mm 1.6 SOHC piston
Engine Balancing done (but no knife edging on the crank)
stock cams & very minor pnp on the mivec head
1.8 stock gbox
lightened crank pulley, adj. cam pulley, fpr
emanage piggyback
honda b16b intake + cusco replica headers

on dynojet 162hp with 175nm.
when comparing against other 1.8 mivec (with stock cams and similar setup) dynocharts, that about the max (max was 162.8hp). Aftermarket cams should add between 10-15hp (peak).

okay la for old guy like me. Usable torque from 2k - 7.5k rpm.. I personally have witnessed a 4g93 mivec on a black wira aeroback (with drapes at the windows!) rolling on 17"s pulling a 204hp on GT Auto dyno a few years back.. dunno la what setan is inside..

 

[BudakSiol!]

Hi receiver,

How much did you pay to install in the B16B intake?

Just sharing my setup;

4g93 block with 82mm 1.6 SOHC piston
Engine Balancing done (but no knife edging on the crank)
stock cams & very minor pnp on the mivec head
1.8 stock gbox
lightened crank pulley, adj. cam pulley, fpr
emanage piggyback
honda b16b intake + cusco replica headers

on dynojet 162hp with 175nm.
when comparing against other 1.8 mivec (with stock cams and similar setup) dynocharts, that about the max (max was 162.8hp). Aftermarket cams should add between 10-15hp (peak).

okay la for old guy like me. Usable torque from 2k - 7.5k rpm.. I personally have witnessed a 4g93 mivec on a black wira aeroback (with drapes at the windows!) rolling on 17"s pulling a 204hp on GT Auto dyno a few years back.. dunno la what setan is inside..

 

[receiver]

This was done way back in 2009, so prices might be different now. The b16b flange was ported to match the mivec head. For pipes no. 1 and 4 there is not much work, but pipes no.2 and 3 requires extensive welding and machining to port match. Total cost then was rm600. Done at that famous machine shop at USJ 1, Ngai Seng.

 

[BudakSiol!]

This was done way back in 2009, so prices might be different now. The b16b flange was ported to match the mivec head. For pipes no. 1 and 4 there is not much work, but pipes no.2 and 3 requires extensive welding and machining to port match. Total cost then was rm600. Done at that famous machine shop at USJ 1, Ngai Seng.

Hey thanks for the reply! Will work a budget for it. =)

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

now skunk replica got the one ready for 4g9X series...no need machining b16 skunk intake anymorre

 

[stm1]

Hi All,

Newbie here. i just completed a transplant 4g93 Mivec. Just wondering how much oil pressure do you guys get during Mivec engagement.

Thanks