Which is the MOST durable car wax / sealant ?

[LesleyAprotto]

Anyone got any suggestion as to which brand is THE MOST durable wax / sealant ?

My repainter suggested ...

NU FINISH,

a US product claiming to be able to last ONE year or 50 plus washes...

The other is COLLINITE which I think is not locally available...

All suggestions welcomed, professional detailers comments most welcomed with thanks!:top:

(sorry durable mis-spelt, couldnt edit)

 

[Veloc]

Re: Which is the MOST drable car wax / sealant ?

50 washes or 1 year? That is sky high claims. And even if true, only applicable to US climate (and i mean the best US climate). For protection, for me, I get something fast and easy like optimum car wax. But if you are a waxer and love to experiment on boutique waxes, like how i've been poisoned, go and try everything endlessly. Or if money is not a problem, get swisswax. I've seen it last 6 months in Malaysia climate. The higher range ones, that it.

 

[vr2turbo]

Re: Which is the MOST drable car wax / sealant ?

50 washes or 1 year? That is sky high claims. And even if true, only applicable to US climate (and i mean the best US climate). For protection, for me, I get something fast and easy like optimum car wax. But if you are a waxer and love to experiment on boutique waxes, like how i've been poisoned, go and try everything endlessly. Or if money is not a problem, get swisswax. I've seen it last 6 months in Malaysia climate. The higher range ones, that it.

Carnauba wax will melt in our hot weather. Will not last that long. Best is to DIY and apply more often, whether wax and/or sealants....

 

[cvkit17]

Re: Which is the MOST drable car wax / sealant ?

Carnauba wax will melt in our hot weather. Will not last that long. Best is to DIY and apply more often, whether wax and/or sealants....

Carnauba wax only last for 2 weeks on my car, max. Working time the car is exposed to weather most of the time. Car parked in hse porch with carnauba wax can last for 1-2 months. Dats also because its a weekend car, very seldom use.

 

[Veloc]

Came across a car that uses Swissvax mystery. Forgot the carnauba content but its one of the very high content ones. The wax last aobut 5 months. Even OCW last up to one month when I use it. Driven everyday with ridiculous rain and hell tropical sun.

 

[6UE5t]

I'm just using cheap ones, Soft 99 product. Lucky if it lasts 1 mth. :)
Btw what's the best value to remove watermarks/spots? By best value I mean cheap ones but works and easy to apply without any risks! Don't tell me those expensive ones like Maguire's stuff, not interested to spend that much. :)

 

[Izso]

How do you guys determine the length of usefulness for a wax or sealant?

Let me compare my own tests with yours. I am using NXT2.0 from Meguairs and initial application shows very nice water beading. But after a week it just turns into mush instead of beading. It can't be that bad right?

 

[cvkit17]

How do you guys determine the length of usefulness for a wax or sealant?

Let me compare my own tests with yours. I am using NXT2.0 from Meguairs and initial application shows very nice water beading. But after a week it just turns into mush instead of beading. It can't be that bad right?

After 1 week, u'll notice water on some surface of your car beads better than other surfaces. Dat means the wax at those surface where water doesn't beads is running out of protection. I've read from somewhere that said if you rub your finger across the surface and there is squeaking sound, means no more wax left on that surface.

 

[vr2turbo]

How do you guys determine the length of usefulness for a wax or sealant?

Let me compare my own tests with yours. I am using NXT2.0 from Meguairs and initial application shows very nice water beading. But after a week it just turns into mush instead of beading. It can't be that bad right?

Does not bead means no more wax, but is this effect after your wash? What shampoo are you using?
Like bro. eohl mention use a topper after wash to bring back the shine and beading. I do that after every wash...

 

[LesleyAprotto]

Sincere thanks to our moderator, PocketRocket for the spelling correction.......

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Does not bead means no more wax, but is this effect after your wash? What shampoo are you using?
Like bro. eohl mention use a topper after wash to bring back the shine and beading. I do that after every wash...

Bro VR2,

What do you mean by a topper?

Is it like the spray wax?

 

[Izso]

Does not bead means no more wax, but is this effect after your wash? What shampoo are you using?
Like bro. eohl mention use a topper after wash to bring back the shine and beading. I do that after every wash...

I use optimum no rinse to wash my car most of the time. It's supposedly ultra mild and does not affect any top coating or wax. After waxing and curing for a good 20hrs, the wax does an excellent job of beading, but after a week instead of beading it just splatters all over. I don't think NXT2.0 is that bad right? What am I doing wrong?

 

[vr2turbo]

Sincere thanks to our moderator, PocketRocket for the spelling correction.......

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Bro VR2,

What do you mean by a topper?

Is it like the spray wax?

Yup, something that is easy to apply on, even though mild protection against the normal wax/sealant application.

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I use optimum no rinse to wash my car most of the time. It's supposedly ultra mild and does not affect any top coating or wax. After waxing and curing for a good 20hrs, the wax does an excellent job of beading, but after a week instead of beading it just splatters all over. I don't think NXT2.0 is that bad right? What am I doing wrong?

Have not tried the NXT 2.0 but have tried the one before, the MG#21 synthetic sealant. Since synthetic sealant thought it would last but actually not, however like yours it beads very well, and is very slick after application. I bought 1 liter of it, but after a year the chemical in it split into liquid and paste and cannot be used anymore....

 

[cvkit17]

I use optimum no rinse to wash my car most of the time. It's supposedly ultra mild and does not affect any top coating or wax. After waxing and curing for a good 20hrs, the wax does an excellent job of beading, but after a week instead of beading it just splatters all over. I don't think NXT2.0 is that bad right? What am I doing wrong?

When you mean splatter, do u mean water begin to sheet only after a week? My KiT wax although cant last for more than 2 weeks, water sheeting is still nowhere to be seen. It's just that the water that beads on the surface become larger beads.

V2r: Wah..1 liter gone lor? Is it exposed to humid air? Dat means it literally "expires" :hmmmm:

 

[Izso]

When you mean splatter, do u mean water begin to sheet only after a week? My KiT wax although cant last for more than 2 weeks, water sheeting is still nowhere to be seen. It's just that the water that beads on the surface become larger beads.

V2r: Wah..1 liter gone lor? Is it exposed to humid air? Dat means it literally "expires" :hmmmm:

It doesn't sheet water as well. Beads don't form as readily anymore. And irritatingly the beads that are on the car collect so much dust in it that when it dries my car looks like it has chicken pox


V2R : your expensive stuff needs expensive users la. You too kiamsiap to use it that's why expire so fast! Can you just shake shake shake the thing to mix it up?

 

[cvkit17]

It doesn't sheet water as well. Beads don't form as readily anymore. And irritatingly the beads that are on the car collect so much dust in it that when it dries my car looks like it has chicken pox


V2R : your expensive stuff needs expensive users la. You too kiamsiap to use it that's why expire so fast! Can you just shake shake shake the thing to mix it up?

If the chicken pox is easily removed when you wash your car, that means the dust isn't stucked into the paint as there's a layer of wax beneath it.

 

[vr2turbo]

When you mean splatter, do u mean water begin to sheet only after a week? My KiT wax although cant last for more than 2 weeks, water sheeting is still nowhere to be seen. It's just that the water that beads on the surface become larger beads.

V2r: Wah..1 liter gone lor? Is it exposed to humid air? Dat means it literally "expires" :hmmmm:

Not 1 liter gone lah! Have been using for the year, probably 1/3 gone.....

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It doesn't sheet water as well. Beads don't form as readily anymore. And irritatingly the beads that are on the car collect so much dust in it that when it dries my car looks like it has chicken pox


V2R : your expensive stuff needs expensive users la. You too kiamsiap to use it that's why expire so fast! Can you just shake shake shake the thing to mix it up?

Got use brother. Many others who has this MG#21 had the same problem. These are kept indoor at staircase area where it is cool. I don't have other products breaking down like this.
All of us tried shaking it to mix them again, but it remained clear liquid and paste....

 

[g88]

a good/durable wax would be upon long exposure contamination (e.g Malaysia hotsun and acid rain) even dirt film is built-up, upon washing the surface will be smooth and beading again, and you may simply just top up with any quickwax to further prolong the surface protection....+ contamination on surface should be easy to get off (that is what majority of coating offering now)

Do bear in mind that If you leave the dirt film or watermark stay too long on the surface, it will somehow penetrate the layer which make harder to get off...thats is why alot ppl would 'think', after coating or wax...car wax is not need for the next 1-2 months...

If you ask me which wax/sealant provide longer protection, i would say FK1000P, FK2180, M16, Colinite476...

Again surface preparation is truly important.

Some of my product been with me more than 2-3 years and all still in good shape.

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perhaps you guys can share what wax/sealant u using too...

 

[eohl79]

Wax/sealant:
Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Wax/Sealant
Dodo Juice Iron Gloss
Dodo Juice Supernatural Acrylic Spritz
Menzerna Power Lock Sealant

Maintenance:
DG Aquawax

 

[vr2turbo]

Wax/sealant:
Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid Wax/Sealant
Dodo Juice Iron Gloss
Dodo Juice Supernatural Acrylic Spritz
Menzerna Power Lock Sealant

Maintenance:
DG Aquawax

Ini sifu standard wax.....

 

[eohl79]

Ini sifu standard wax.....

I'm no sifu-la. Not even a "guru". Try here and there.

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If I need to choose one sealant and nothing else IMO, I would go with Menz Power Lock. I got mine from Mudah.my via Borneo Autodetailer @ Tim. It is the best sealant that I've used so far. No arm breaking application and buffing off, easy to apply.
See the following thread...
Menzerna Powerlock - a little test - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum