Which 1.6L used car to go?

[RENESIS VIII]

Ya... budget is my main concern.
BTW, If I go to SEG with maybe 4AGE inside, is the engine internal spare part still available? easy to get?
Please advise... Thx

4A-GE is not that old, parts should be widely available. If you are looking for 4A-GE, I suggest you get 4A-GE 20 Valve Blacktop.

We have a few 4A-GE sifus over here like D7zul. Can ask him for more info.

 

[bera]

Ya... budget is my main concern.
BTW, If I go to SEG with maybe 4AGE inside, is the engine internal spare part still available? easy to get?
Please advise... Thx

4age is not old...its already considered ancient by japanese standard...last production roll out the factory last 10 years ago give or take...and this is the era when toyota still make a reliable no fuss power unit...the same era where 1j and 2j are made,and we all know those engines are built like tanks...but sadly to this day there is still no direct replacement (unlike honda replacing B-series with K-series engine) since toyota policy already shift toward making a more environment friendly engine...

4age still have somewhat of a cult status following all over the world today...parts are still being developed, made and readily available...you still can see this engine almost in every engine swap imaginable from ff,fr,mr to kit cars...and still giving competitors a run for their money in races...

 

[vr2turbo]

Was surprised too. Even the limited edition Neo R3 Clubsport is RM35K I think it can fetch better price than the R3 Lotus...maybe is true or is just a hoax. Clubsport urgent sale though but already about 6 years 1/2 month car

If cheap then R3 can be considered, fits TS priorities.....

 

[Izso]

But just a note - 4AGE in a SEG is a bit of a tight fit. It's PNP but makes DIYs and accessing parts of your engine quite tight.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

But just a note - 4AGE in a SEG is a bit of a tight fit. It's PNP but makes DIYs and accessing parts of your engine quite tight.

I thought they fit in nicely since 4A-GE and their original 4A-FE is almost the same size. Or is it even the 4A-FE is tightly fitted?

 

[KenDiriwan]

I thought they fit in nicely since 4A-GE and their original 4A-FE is almost the same size. Or is it even the 4A-FE is tightly fitted?

Because engine and components of 4age are way bigger.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Because engine and components of 4age are way bigger.

The engine bay size for AE101 and AE111 Sprinter Trueno/Levin are also larger than their SEG counterparts then?

 

[bera]

tight fit yes...but i dont think there to much differences...engine mount practically the same although not interchangeable between 4afe and 4age (only apply to 1.6 chassis...1.3 need to mod a bit)

some JDM corolla model come factory equipped with 4age...come to think of it manufacturer wont meddle around with chassis to much...they prep the chassis to be equipped with different type of engine setup...

 

[KenDiriwan]

Only difference ae111 trueno/levin has bigger upfront space of radiator fan due to front nose(bumper+grill+headlamp) design. The rest are same.

Some even mod ae111 levin bzr nosecut into ae101 body

 

[ixeo]

Guys,

Plan to bring in an used car for my mid range distance travel.
Due to budget concern,
yrs 1993 7th gen Toyota 1.6L SEG (M) and 5th gen Honda Civic 1.6L EFI (M) are short listed in my plan.

Need opinion here:

- Which car have

1) Cheaper maintenance cost
2) Handling
3) Better fuel consumption
4) After market performance parts
5) Better Chassis quality
6) Accessories support such power window, central locking etc.

Please advise... Thx

R3 Satria Neo. And i mean the real R3 Satria Neo and not the one with r3 bodykit as cosmetics only.

145hp and 168nm of torque..for a 1.6L what's more can we ask for

If not then SEG with Blacktop 4AGE.

I agree with Supra_Fanatics. Especially that RM35k Satria Neo Clubsport! Its literally all bells and whistles already in. Those Toyota SEGs are too old la. Ever head of metal fatigue? Halfway round a corner the car patah in 2 not funny lor. Those old AE86 you see on track in Japan are already reinforced, probably spot welded.

1. Cheap maintenance cost. Its a Proton, plenty of parts, it is a N/A Campro, straightforward engine.
2. Track ready Lotus tuned, what do you think?
3. Its a N/A with Haltech interceptor. You don't floor the pedal you will get decent FC. Its a manual so no loss of fuel economy from torque converter.
4. After market performance parts? Already installed.
5. Its chassis is newer than the cars you shortlisted. It has a semi-permanent rollcage included. As they say.. apa lagi u mau?
6. Not sure if the power window and central locking still there, but can be easily installed back.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

tight fit yes...but i dont think there to much differences...engine mount practically the same although not interchangeable between 4afe and 4age (only apply to 1.6 chassis...1.3 need to mod a bit)

some JDM corolla model come factory equipped with 4age...come to think of it manufacturer wont meddle around with chassis to much...they prep the chassis to be equipped with different type of engine setup...

Those are called Corolla Ceres or Sprinter Marino if I am not mistaken. Comes with frameless doors. Looks nice and sporty but difficult to find those here.

Only difference ae111 trueno/levin has bigger upfront space of radiator fan due to front nose(bumper+grill+headlamp) design. The rest are same.

Some even mod ae111 levin bzr nosecut into ae101 body

Haha, I've seen those nosecut conversion before. Looks good. AE101 Trueno/Levin can do it too right? This is the one I saw before.

 

[boyzone]

These several days are busy to survey the car. However, I did notice a 97' proton putra with milage at 65k km only..
is rare and hard to find a 100% stock for Putra... :)

 

[john_unai]

how about honda accord sv4 with h22a engine from d same era with corolla seg 1.6?
price is almost same but with bigger engine cc, part reliability i dunno la but dis car cheap leh. oth than that i dunno.. dis car no good ar? :hmmmm2::questionmark:

 

[Izso]

how about honda accord sv4 with h22a engine from d same era with corolla seg 1.6?
price is almost same but with bigger engine cc, part reliability i dunno la but dis car cheap leh. oth than that i dunno.. dis car no good ar? :hmmmm2::questionmark:

SV4 is a good car, but parts are very hard to come by. H22A is a good engine too, but prepare loads of cash to repair it when it breaks, it's not a cheap engine to maintain mainly because of its age!

 

[RENESIS VIII]

SV4 is heavier than Civic and Corolla. Might not be as agile than the both of them. Stability at high speed might be better though. Roadtax also more expensive for 2.2 litre...