Saga FLX issue (help me)

[driftkingII]

Anyone Saga FLX owners here?

I want to clarify a few things before I go to service in Proton.

Car cannot start, I remembered when I learn from JPJ, if car cannot start it is either battery or air.

So the instructor did a demo he disable the air and the car cannot start.

I have changed my battery and so far ok.

Later this problem still come back, cannot start. So what I did was I removed the air filter and pat it to remove the dust and then my car can start. So i suspected it is the air filter issue. So if I cannot start I will do this 1st and it works everytime.
*sometimes this also happens during after service, already 3 times.

Today I called the Proton service, they said no air filter issue and it is luck that the car can start after doing that.

so guys i need to know? is this the air filter or not?

Please advise

*car still under warranty till this November, was thinking to kill the warranty after replacing the power window.

 

[DanzEterna]

check your air flow sensor. does your car crank?

 

[driftkingII]

check your air flow sensor. does your car crank?

not a crank sound but the sound like car no battery, btw i already replaced the battery.

I read in some forums they said immobilizer.

 

[TitanRev]

When you turn ur key to ignition can you hear the fuel pump sound? the car can crank or the starter can't crank at all?

 

[driftkingII]

check your air flow sensor. does your car crank?

When you turn ur key to ignition can you hear the fuel pump sound? the car can crank or the starter can't crank at all?

Sorry for the info about crank but yes my car crank, this cannot start issue does not happen most of the time.

How to know air flow sensor and also Fuel pump sound?

Scary thing is it happens always after servicing at Proton service...

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

have u fit any electrical device such as ICE, aftermarket alarm system etc etc???

i suspect something was draining your battery....


or ask SC to check if the car original grounding was tied properly or not

 

[TitanRev]

Sorry for the info about crank but yes my car crank, this cannot start issue does not happen most of the time.

How to know air flow sensor and also Fuel pump sound?

Scary thing is it happens always after servicing at Proton service...

The fuel pump sound appear when you turn ur key to ignition. You stand beside ur driver door, turn the key to ignition but not start then listen if you can hear a Eeeee sound for a while as the fuel pump pressurized the fuel line. Then it will automatically stop. Try to find a quiet place to do it but the fuel pump sound on saga is quite loud. Also when you crank that time is the cranking sound consistent or during cranking sometimes fast sometimes slow.

 

[driftkingII]

have u fit any electrical device such as ICE, aftermarket alarm system etc etc???

i suspect something was draining your battery....


or ask SC to check if the car original grounding was tied properly or not

No bro, this car i do not want to put all those fancy stuff or modifications. This car i want to keep it stock.

as i said earlier this happens sometime n also after service at proton SC

 

[driftkingII]

Went to SC today.

Proton found the root cause, it is the ECU. They told me ECU upgrade will be ready soon n they will inform me when it is ready.

^pomen_GTR^ u nearly got it right and thanx !!!

bro Titan, Fuel Pump working fine, i tested it

 

[papagoines]

Went to SC today.

Proton found the root cause, it is the ECU. They told me ECU upgrade will be ready soon n they will inform me when it is ready.

^pomen_GTR^ u nearly got it right and thanx !!!

bro Titan, Fuel Pump working fine, i tested it

really? then I must tell my collegues as well... seems lots of my FLX frends suffers the same issue as well

 

[EvolutionZ]

its good that the SC can troubleshoot this. ECU issue? something new. lets hope it work well after the re-programming.
normally your case, if got mileage...its either
- fuel pump faulty
- air flow sensor loose connection
- immobilizer..
but from what i read there...none of the above..then lets share once the SC can settle yr problem.

 

[driftkingII]

its good that the SC can troubleshoot this. ECU issue? something new. lets hope it work well after the re-programming.
normally your case, if got mileage...its either
- fuel pump faulty
- air flow sensor loose connection
- immobilizer..
but from what i read there...none of the above..then lets share once the SC can settle yr problem.

No news from PSC.

but it is a very common issue as well when i googled here.
Saga Flx(a) Engine Can't Start - Autoworld Forum

also i read here, somehow stupidcar issue is something like mine
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/proton/440695-1-6-campro-persona-hard-to-start.html

Anyway guys, i just killed my warranty "car battery died on Merdeka night,"

 

[papagoines]

bro... one of my friend suffers the same issue... and his solution is very simple...

yank out the immobilizer... the car can start with out any issue.... been 1 year plus plus

but then, your warranty is void la

 

[vr2turbo]

No news from PSC.

but it is a very common issue as well when i googled here.
Saga Flx(a) Engine Can't Start - Autoworld Forum

also i read here, somehow stupidcar issue is something like mine
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/proton/440695-1-6-campro-persona-hard-to-start.html

Anyway guys, i just killed my warranty "car battery died on Merdeka night,"

Why car battery die, void warranty? Means cannot change battery outside?

 

[papagoines]

Same as this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVU-xV4bks8

been getting this almost on a daily basis now... but as per video, i just

1. Close the door and lock it via remote
2. wait 10 seconds
3. unlock the car, start it and it cranks like nothing happened

 

[vr2turbo]

Same as this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVU-xV4bks8

been getting this almost on a daily basis now... but as per video, i just

1. Close the door and lock it via remote
2. wait 10 seconds
3. unlock the car, start it and it cranks like nothing happened

Like windows need to reboot........hahhahahhahahahah

 

[papagoines]

Like windows need to reboot........hahhahahhahahahah

yeah... got the idea from that fact

 

[driftkingII]

Same as this right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVU-xV4bks8

been getting this almost on a daily basis now... but as per video, i just

1. Close the door and lock it via remote
2. wait 10 seconds
3. unlock the car, start it and it cranks like nothing happened

YEp that is RIGHT !!! Just like that !!

btw i just bumped this bcoz it happens at Nu Sentral today at the parking Valet.

One indian bro cannot start his new Proton Exec, the parking valet guy tried pushing n everything but did not work !! Bcoz i knew the problem. I helped him.

so I told him what to do.. in the end... He manages to start the car n thanx me including the valet guy.

Else this dude kena tow...

damn la proton this small issue cannot solve !!!

 

[papagoines]

YEp that is RIGHT !!! Just like that !!

btw i just bumped this bcoz it happens at Nu Sentral today at the parking Valet.

One indian bro cannot start his new Proton Exec, the parking valet guy tried pushing n everything but did not work !! Bcoz i knew the problem. I helped him.

so I told him what to do.. in the end... He manages to start the car n thanx me including the valet guy.

Else this dude kena tow...

damn la proton this small issue cannot solve !!!

Dunno if I mentioned this previously... there's a friend claims that he solved this by yanking out the immobilizer out and the issue never surfaced since

but, I don't think that the solution since I don't think SV model have immobilizer installed

 

[driftkingII]

Dunno if I mentioned this previously... there's a friend claims that he solved this by yanking out the immobilizer out and the issue never surfaced since

but, I don't think that the solution since I don't think SV model have immobilizer installed

Ahhhhhh

This problem just came back again !!!!

damn, i love my car and i dunno what to do... feels like want to trade in but i feel to sad to let it go. Will try remove immobilizer 1st...

*according to my last service, the pomen said Proton did gave me NOT ORIGINAL spark plug wires (something)

*trade in, i dont want vios or Mivi...