Rotary have to redline regularly?

[woaychee]

hi TS, your air cond issue i faced that before, perhaps try to ask the tuner to tune the idling with air cond on. it solved my ex-car engine stall problem.

kk13, thats good to have 2 ways, but you will have the annoying sound when you turning corner.. unless you enjoy these sound.

 

[benyeap]

The facelifted RX-8 got lsd according to the brochure.

So recon 8 got traction control also?

 

[phat7]

KK13 the car has an lsd, factory or not,i'm not sure.

Woaychee - the new generation is not noisy anymore. i like 1.5lock.

 

[effie]

The facelifted RX-8 got lsd according to the brochure.

So recon 8 got traction control also?

All 6MT Rx8 comes fitted with LSD. 4AT doesn't get LSD. However, the new facelifted 6AT has LSD fitted.

And yea, recon Rx8 got Traction Control and DSC (Directional Stability Control).....But not all..... As long as you see the DSC button on the Rx8 than it has all those driver aids. Beauty is, you can switch it all off. Switching driver aids off allows you to drift and/or do donuts. Leaving aids on, makes it nearly impossible.

 

[Yong_5290]

so all sifu,the spinning out prob is bcoz of lsd?

 

[kk13]

KK13 the car has an lsd, factory or not,i'm not sure.

Woaychee - the new generation is not noisy anymore. i like 1.5lock.

how much does it cost for an fd??

also, how come you dont like 2 way phat7??

 

[hachiroku clan]

Lsd is 1 of my favourite subject to learn, but bear in mind that i have no experience hands on, but mere theory.. So sifus here help me if im wrong kay..
Usually 2way is used in drifting because on off-accel, the wheels still spin together at same speed.. Its easier to drift than a 1.5 because with a 1.5, sudden off-accel will not maintain wheel spin speed on both wheels.. Meaning if u were to make a right turn while off-accel, the outer wheel (left) spins slower than inner (right) wheel.. This translate to lesser speed because the left wheel is slower, as the weight of the car is transfered to to the left, much grip is added..
With 1way, the speed is much2 slower coz the left wheel could even stop spinning..

2way has high tendency to understeer, so for normal road use with occasional sports driving, 1.5 is perfect, safety n performance wise..
I hope this explanation makes it easier to understand how it works..

 

[Yong_5290]

yea yea...this lsd thing i try on gran turismo onli....so the basic of 1 way,1.5, and 2 way also know theory onli

 

[l18m]

almost every FR car can wheel spin in wet esp nr redline as close to redline (peak power is prob about 1.5k rpm b4 redline)

not sure on your setup but can reduce the risk if:
1) turn down your boost
2) check your tyres, pressure, tread etc. get some good tyres for wet also (toyo t1r's good in wet and dry, toyo 888 rubbish in wet) this will help reduce change of wheel spin

i dont know too much about lt10 but on pfc it has auto learn function which idles higher when fans and a/c is turned on. maybe there is auto learn on lt10 also? or maybe needs to be mapped in?

redling is gd for engine but if u just redline for a couple of secs it wont do much. if u redline at idle ur engine will get hot and there wont be much air entering to cool the engine down effectively. if its wet can acc slowly to about 5-6k revs and hold it there for a bit, does similar thing as redline plus you wont get crazy boost so more manageable.

hope this helps

 

[kk13]

Lsd is 1 of my favourite subject to learn, but bear in mind that i have no experience hands on, but mere theory.. So sifus here help me if im wrong kay..
Usually 2way is used in drifting because on off-accel, the wheels still spin together at same speed.. Its easier to drift than a 1.5 because with a 1.5, sudden off-accel will not maintain wheel spin speed on both wheels.. Meaning if u were to make a right turn while off-accel, the outer wheel (left) spins slower than inner (right) wheel.. This translate to lesser speed because the left wheel is slower, as the weight of the car is transfered to to the left, much grip is added..
With 1way, the speed is much2 slower coz the left wheel could even stop spinning..

2way has high tendency to under steer, so for normal road use with occasional sports driving, 1.5 is perfect, safety n performance wise..
I hope this explanation makes it easier to understand how it works..

so that would mean that 1.5 is safer but slower in the corners than a 2 way...but what difference would it make during acceleration or deceleration in a straight line?...also 2 way has a tendency to under steer or over steer? it should be under steer for rear wheel drive cars right...

 

[hachiroku clan]

In a straight line, 1.5 is enough i guess.. Other factors could make ur car spin, e.g big boost, slippery road or bad tires.. Im not too sure about this, im sorry..
About under/over steer, for 2way lsd in:
ff- understeer, imagine both front wheels running at same speed at a corner.. (inner wheel should be abit slower than outer wheel)

fr- oversteer, coz both rear wheels spin at the same speed, the inner wheels that is supposed to slow abit is spinning at the same rate as the outer one.. Making the rear 'throw' outwards..

Pro drifters use 2way lsd coz whey want to maintain speed while drifting.. If use 1.5, the speed is sacrifised abit.. The cheap way is drifters tend to weld the rear diffrentials together, making it lock fully..

How strong the under/oversteer depends on the type of lsd.. Some are activated by speed (viscous)
or torque/power sensitive depending on the load n power that is transfred to the diffrentials (helical gear)

if there is any mistakes, please correct me..

 

[kk13]

In a straight line, 1.5 is enough i guess.. Other factors could make ur car spin, e.g big boost, slippery road or bad tires.. Im not too sure about this, im sorry..
About under/over steer, for 2way lsd in:
ff- understeer, imagine both front wheels running at same speed at a corner.. (inner wheel should be abit slower than outer wheel)

fr- oversteer, coz both rear wheels spin at the same speed, the inner wheels that is supposed to slow abit is spinning at the same rate as the outer one.. Making the rear 'throw' outwards..

Pro drifters use 2way lsd coz whey want to maintain speed while drifting.. If use 1.5, the speed is sacrifised abit.. The cheap way is drifters tend to weld the rear diffrentials together, making it lock fully..

How strong the under/oversteer depends on the type of lsd.. Some are activated by speed (viscous)
or torque/power sensitive depending on the load n power that is transfred to the diffrentials (helical gear)

if there is any mistakes, please correct me..

thanks bro...

will look into it more...i think 1.5 should be good or maybe 2...lol...wonder how much it cost for an fd...

 

[hachiroku clan]

No prob.. I dont own an fd or any mazda.. I envy u guys.. Huhu

 

[kk13]

No prob.. I dont own an fd or any mazda.. I envy u guys.. Huhu

nvm, one day bro...do u go for the meets?

 

[hachiroku clan]

Meets? The closest i've been to an fd is when i pass by my neighbour's house! Hahaha very 'cham' lah..
That fd doesnt move, but only gets the occassional warm up.. Bet there's tons of carbon buildup in it.. An uncle warms it up.. Maybe it belongs to his son who is studying?
Im from seremban btw, not many fd but seen quite a number of 8's tho..

 

[kk13]

lol...im also from seremban bro...

but not since an workin here so stayin in kl now...but i occasionally got bac to see my parents or grand parents...did know there was an fd in sban...never seen one there...

if u come of 2 kl give me a call...can meet up...your workin or studyin?

 

[SideWaysGrey]

kk13, sban kaki eh? im from Rasah. therez a black FC in Senawang, driven by a very friendly malay guy. Therez also a white FC in Oakland, but hardly ever driven, so-so condition only.
Ill be back this weekend, lets meet up and we can see to ure car. pm me ure no dude

 

[hachiroku clan]

Kk, im working here in sban.. Hey sidewaygrey, which part of rasah r u from?

 

[kk13]

hey sidewaysgrey,

yala bro...sban kaki...somewhere near senawang also bro...but i'm mostly in kl now?...your goin back to sban from kl?...

we can meet in kl or sban...let me know la, can drive down...

your drivin an rx ar bro??

hachiroku clan,

u too bro...maybe we can meet up...i'll pm u guys my number...just send me a text...

:wavey:

 

[SideWaysGrey]

hachiroku clan,

Im in tmn klana jubli, near kg baru rasah? pm me ure no, lets meet up this Sat nite, maybe can join the Sban ZTH group too.

KK, no la, dont drive a RX (yet) :p but I have the RE in a TE72
btw, sms'ed u earlier.