perodua kelisa 1000T

[djario69]

hello guys, im a newbies here :P , wish you guys could help me with this,
spec: kancil with kelisa engine, but i plan to turbo charge it later on with mild turbo, i.e 0.6bars, what do i have to do? fuel system? oil system? hope the sifu would help me with this. do i hv to buy a coure turbo engine and then kahwin? some other questions will pop up later i think, but i guess only these for now. thanks a million guys. :)

 

[reubenlee]

i think you have to buy greddy e-manage 1st(it controls fuel and air flow)
than change piston l2s will do
then buy l2s turbo kit

 

[yoel]

L2s cannot fit leee....
try to fing L5 or L6 or L9 with 3 cylinder type TWIN CAM
then , can use the intake manifold, turbo manifold, etc
pendek kata, turbo kit with three cylinder TWIN cam

 

[reubenlee]

wat i know is manifold have to custom liao..
my mech garage got 1 l500s then he bought the l512 turbo with manifold ,,he said cannot fit have to adjust

 

[fable_faiz]

erm.. mind if i ask..? how much is e-manage and tuning costs?
it's a piggy back right?

 

[reubenlee]

rm1500 with installation but no tuning......

i can get for 1350 but without installation

software hav to add about 200

 

[stroker_kit]

Originally posted by yoel@Dec 22 2004, 10:06
L2s cannot fit leee....
try to fing L5 or L6 or L9 with 3 cylinder type TWIN CAM
then , can use the intake manifold, turbo manifold, etc
pendek kata, turbo kit with three cylinder TWIN cam

cannot la my fren.... turbo pistons L5.L6.L9 is way TOO small to fit into kelisa original engine laaa, especially the 4cylinder turbo engine, very small....
the idea is how to keep the kelisa engine 1000c with turbo using the same hi comp standard pistons....

 

[polyxtroy]

Same comp, but safest to boost below 0.4 bar. Either that, change to thicker gasket to lower compression. Plain & simple. Ask taiko ghost, he's been there done that.

 

[djario69]

calling mr GHOST!! help!!! err stroker_KIT got what im getting at. how to reduce the compresion lah? thats what im worried bout. my initial target is 0.5-0.6bars, then experiment frm there on. i bet a lot of kenarianz and kelisan out there love this idea, right guys? please angkat tangan hehheh, thanks a lot for replying to this post guys.errr what does e-manage do again?

 

[reubenlee]

e-manage is something like apexi safc but it has more function..
it can add on profec-b as boost controller

 

[stroker_kit]

kcarlife.com project kenari runs safely on 0.6bar...all internal standard....if u wish to run higher, solve the compression matters first... the problem is, how to bring it down to 9 at least from the original 11 if u stil want to use the ori pistons.... surely there are other ways to work it out besides thicker gasket right???

 

[fable_faiz]

Originally posted by reubenlee@Dec 22 2004, 13:57
e-manage is something like apexi safc but it has more function..
it can add on profec-b as boost controller

u mean it can act as profec b as well?
sounds like a good buy to me
;)

 

[fable_faiz]

how bout this Q.
how much does the bolt-on mod normaly costs?

 

[polyxtroy]

anywhere between 800 - 1.5k depends on waht u 1.

 

[dedicool]

it is not easy to turbocharge kelisa engine.. the pistons need to change to low comp. such as 2e piston.. although kelisa piston is considered as low comp. one, but the material is not hard enough to cope the heat combustions when running more than 0.7 bar..

 

[reubenlee]

Originally posted by fable_faiz+Dec 22 2004, 18:50 --></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (fable_faiz @ Dec 22 2004, 18:50 )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-reubenlee@Dec 22 2004, 13:57
e-manage is something like apexi safc but it has more function..
it can add on profec-b as boost controller

u mean it can act as profec b as well?
sounds like a good buy to me
;) [/b][/quote]
nope..
profec b is just an add on for emange for viewing and control boost....
if you seriously want to add on you have to buy the chip that controls ignition as well....

adding on with low boost needs more than 2k coz you have to customize the turbo manifold extractor(at least 800)....

 

[equin0x]

i did turbocharged my friend's kenari production engine.. currently stock internals.. using turbo header from Daihatsu with L5 turbo and did fueling upgrade to it.

 

[flamefox850]

better use L2 head, Gtti pistons/2E pistons, GSR or VR4 injectors, SAFC (if got enough money..buy programmable ECU like motec/haltech or else), adj. fuel regulator, L2 wiring and ECU (if dun want to use piggyback like SAFC only), metal gasket for L2, bigger turbo (TD04/RHF4 above), front mount intercooler, ignition retard a bit for better safety..later can adjust and better clutch

'some people' use kembara pistons..and dunno how the get rid of high compression. maybe cut the 'head' of the piston and coat with ceramic.

with that...i believe 1.0bar above is safe

 

[djario69]

im looking at turbo charging it with production internal first, if possible lah. im thinking to use either gtti punya turbine or rhf4 ( any ideas guys?) and any low comp piston that i could just drop into the kelisa without rebore?

1 question, how bout fuelling? i heard stock 1 tak compatible ngan turbo hi pressure punya kan?

any workshop that has done this kinda mod b4?

thanks guys

 

[flamefox850]

ok dude..like this, if u r not in a very good budget, i wont suggest u hybriding ur engine...else ur engine have some problem in reliablity and of cos power not much la.
and..if u r getting bolt-on turbo (not changing ooher stock part) only..then want to upgrade later, u r wasting ur money...but it's ur choice. if u want slowly mod or R&D..then wasting money is not a problem hehe

ok..let see if i can help u getting bolt-on turbo. first, u have to custom made a extractor and flange for turbo..i dun really know if L2's extractor fit nicely or not. RHF4 is ok for ur setup..not too big. good for mid torque. and mind getting at least SAFC to control ur fuel and adj. fuel regulator (someone says kelisa dun have stock fuel reg and return line...true or not? :blink: ). if kelisa head, dunno what injector fit..if L2 head, can fit GSR injector nicely. for piston..i dun think there is any low comp piston that dun need reboring kelisa's block..dun think so

for worksyop..i can't help. i'm in kelantan. ask Ghost or Equinox