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Mother sacrifices self for daughter

PETALING JAYA: A female jogger lost her life when she tried to shield her daughter and herself from two armed robbers.

Ong Ai Sam, 52, did what any mother would do, by pushing her daughter away and shouting at her to run to safety, when they were approached by the robbers armed with knives at Bukit Gasing at 4.30pm on Saturday.

When the 17-year-old girl ran for help, Ong blocked the robbers who then stabbed her several times before escaping but without taking her belongings which were placed into two small plastic bags.

Her daughter, who returned with a pedestrian, found her mother lying in a pool of blood and holding the bags.

Ong was rushed to the University Malaya Medical Centre, but died of her injuries 20 minutes later while being transported to the hospital.

Petaling Jaya OCPD Asst Comm Arjunaidi Mohamad said police are checking images of the incident from CCTV recordings from the nearby houses.

“We hope to identify the suspects soon with the assistance of the victim's daughter and anyone who might have seen the incident,” he said.

News about Ong's death has gone viral in social media websites, such as Facebook, with netizens expressing their outrage and sadness over the tragedy.

In the PJ Community Alert Facebook page, mourners posted condolence messages for Ong, who was known as a social activist, while hoping for the suspects to be caught as soon as possible.

A message read: “I'm so sad and broken...sudden news that a friend lost her life to some brutal and evil robbers today.

“She is such as good person and gives herself to help so many charities.

“My deepest sympathies to her husband, her two daughters, her family and friends.”

Source: Mother sacrifices self for daughter - Nation | The Star Online
Is a sad news to read early morning on Monday Blues...a mother got killed for protecting
her daughter from the robbers. These scumbags are totally cruel and cold-blooded to kill
an old lady! Taken someone's mother away from their life earlier than expected...

Bukit Gasing as everyone know, rich people's area. Just can't imagine that robbers are
getting more daring nowadays!

What I have to say is that, we should show no pity to criminals, if we show pity to them,
that's where our lives have to be exchange by showing mercy to them.

If robbers are spotted in our house, what shall we do? Hide and run when we can but
kill to stay alive when there is no where to run.

I understand the feeling of getting breaks-ins in the our houses. Is terrifying and frustrating.
Boiling in anger that you wished to kill those low life scumbags.

I got lucky and thank god for protecting my family. My house was broken in 3 times
in 27 years.

I just find that we should not pity these cold-blooded animals anymore...:mad:

It just frustrating that some of us out there do not even appreciate our parents at all after all
the effort and love given by them to educate us and raising us as their son/daughter.

Shouting and scolding their parents when they think they are capable of taking care of themselves
or when they think they don't need their parents anymore as they can stand on their own feed.

A lot has forgotten once we succeeded in life. It was our parents who made us who we are today.
If you succeed in life, be thankful that our parents brought us into this world which gave us the
chance to be who we are today..

If you fail in life, don't blame your parents or anyone. Blame yourself.
Your future is decided by you yourself.

Appreciate our parents, we will not know when they will leave us. Maybe tomorrow, the day after tomorrow or next month. Anything can happen.

Is just too late to cry when they are gone and regret for not being a good son or daughter or did not
do enough to give them a better life as to repay them for their love, effort and guidance all this while.


Love your parents.
 
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Malaysia can never be safe as long as they don't send those foreigners back to where they belong. Instead because of GE13,
they are approving ICs for foreigners like serving fast food...
 

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Malaysia can never be safe as long as they don't send those foreigners back to where they belong. Instead because of GE13,
they are approving ICs for foreigners like serving fast food...
That is why getting worse......:mad:

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Seems that she was not robbed, just stabbed and they left?
 

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That is why getting worse......:mad:

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Seems that she was not robbed, just stabbed and they left?
Yup, maybe they freak out after killing her. Hope they get caught soon and sentence
this dangerous animals to death...
 

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This is just damm sad whey. Just imagine that girl's feelings, knowing that her mother sacrificed herself to protect her. This is one of those emotional scars that won't fade away, at least not so easily. This memory will haunt her for the rest of her life just because some retarded robbers decide to stab people like nobodies business. Yeap, Malaysia is safe.
 

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That's a 2-edged sword. Imagine if they found the parangs?
Buy a powerful paint ball gun as a weapon. Don't underestimate it..could cause severe damage at close range and even death of shot in the face or eyes lol
 

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Buy a powerful paint ball gun as a weapon. Don't underestimate it..could cause severe damage at close range and even death of shot in the face or eyes lol
trying to look for it but where to buy ah?

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That's a 2-edged sword. Imagine if they found the parangs?
gotta hide it & hopefully i get to it 1st before they do. normally thieves when they break into a hse, they will go to the kitchen to get a knife 1st.
 

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gotta hide it & hopefully i get to it 1st before they do. normally thieves when they break into a hse, they will go to the kitchen to get a knife 1st.
Brother, thieves come in and look for knifes? they will bring their own leh!
Moreover if they break in should be wee hours most of the time, so keep the parang in your room.
I went for fire seminar, they ask also where to keep the fire extinguisher? I say Kitchen, so they answer No, Even though kitchen most of the time easier to start fire, and if fire extinguisher is there how are you going to use it? Moreover if at night got fire any where in the house if extinguisher in your room you can get to it the fastest, like wise the parang.....:rolleyes:

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Yup, maybe they freak out after killing her. Hope they get caught soon and sentence
this dangerous animals to death...
That route up the temple where she was killed, is very quiet one. I have used many times for my walk, even though most of the time I go into the forest area. That is why nowadays I use walking stick (old already mah!) but good against dogs and likewise if got robbers.....:biggrin:
 

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Malaysia can never be safe as long as they don't send those foreigners back to where they belong. Instead because of GE13,
they are approving ICs for foreigners like serving fast food...
Lots of foreigners here because they are our labourers. Unless local Malaysians want to work as labourers, these foreign helpers are essential to our economy, so it isn't as easy as sending them all back home.


It is the same as foreign students. Malaysia wants to be an educational hub but unfortunately, the takers are, erhm, gangster students. I've seen these students driving brand new Mercs!


Buy a powerful paint ball gun as a weapon. Don't underestimate it..could cause severe damage at close range and even death of shot in the face or eyes lol
Believe it or not, I bought the Bear Pepper Spray and keep it at home. It comes in a large tin and can shoot 35 feet!



Unfortunately, very expensive and too big to put in handbag. :biggrin:
 
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trying to look for it but where to buy ah?


Erm...search for paint ball tactical shop..or go direct to the paint ball game places. They do sell masks, guns, bullets, etc. Those electric powered guns are really powerful but heavier. I saw a person tried his gun...the bullets are damn straight and fast, unlike mine (rent) which is pneumatic, the bullet sometimes fly left la, sometimes right la, sometimes here and there :thefinger:
 

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Believe it or not, I bought the Bear Pepper Spray and keep it at home. It comes in a large tin and can shoot 35 feet!



Unfortunately, very expensive and too big to put in handbag. :biggrin:
Because that is for bears.....:biggrin:
You can buy those smaller ones for handbags from some pharmacies....
 

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In cyberspace, a daughter remembers ‘mother, hero’

April 22, 2013

People trek on a hiking trail at Bukit Gasing, in Petaling Jaya February 22, 2011.—File pic KUALA LUMPUR, April 22 — On Saturday, Ong Ai Sam, 52, fended off two robbers in a desperate bid to buy her daughter time to escape. She succeeded, but paid for it with her life.

This is the message her daughter wishes she could hear.

My mother, my hero

I remember. I remember everything.

A few months ago in English class, my teacher asked us to write about the person who we admire. I wrote about my mum. A month ago for my English March Test paper, the topic I wrote about was “My Hero”. I wrote about my mum. During my test, I had writer’s block so I simply wrote out everything i knew about my mum: her childhood, achievements, etc. My mum is my hero. She always has been, she always will be.

20th April 2013.

Mama left early in the morning for some event her Kiwanis Club’s K-Kids had planned. She came back home with lunch for me and Milo ais. I remember grumbling to her because I didn’t want to follow my parents jungle trekking. I did anyway. We had to set up a trail for my father’s running group so mama was carrying a bag with just plain paper in it. I remember grumbling to my mum as we went up and down the hills of Gasing. She told me we’d be out soon. After two hours of trekking in the jungle, we finally hit the road. It was the road in Gasing leading up to the temple. We decided to walk back down to the car.

As we walked down the steep road, there was nobody there. No people, no cars. Just the two of us. As we nearly reached the first house, we heard a motorbike sound from behind. We turned around and saw two men on a motorbike. Mama said walk further in onto the pavement so we did. As the motorbike drove past us, they stopped. The man from behind jumped off. My mum pushed me to the back and told me to go. The man attacked my mum straight away, without saying any words. The knife he used was just a normal kitchen knife, the blade was about 10cm long. As my mum tried to protect herself, she turned to her left, only to be stabbed twice on the back of her right shoulder. She was struggling to escape. The attacker then proceeded to stab the back of her left shoulder. Mama tried so hard to escape. She fell on the ground and the attacker pulled her on the road and stabbed her thigh. I tried to help but the attacker thrust the knife my way so I ran back further. I couldn’t do anything but scream at the top of my lungs. I screamed and screamed. The attacker hopped on the bike and rode off.

I remember.

I remember watching my mum’s body lying on the road, all the blood oozing out. The attacker did not manage to get any of my mum’s belongings. She told me to call my dad. I ran down the hill looking for help. The first house I went to, the maid (who saw everything that happened) ran in and did not even try to help me. I ran further down and saw a car. They saw me and stopped. And I told them what happened. The driver, Mr Lai, told me to get in and we drive up to my mum. Mr Lai called the ambulance and the police while I tried to keep my mum conscious. There was blood everywhere. My mum just kept saying “save me”. Her voice was so week. My dad reached the site 10 minutes later, after running all the way. Mama kept telling us that she couldn’t breathe. I prayed and prayed. She was slowly losing herself. We tried our best to keep her awake and conscious. The police arrived. We put her in the police car since the ambulance hadn’t arrived. As we reached down the road, the ambulance was there so they transferred mum into the ambulance.

I remember.

I remember sitting in the ambulance, holding my mum’s hand and trying to talk to her but she didn’t respond. I remember crying. The paramedics were doing all they could do at that point. I remember calling Eu Lim, who was at church to pray for my mum. We reached the hospital in three minutes. They rushed my mum to the emergency was. I wasn’t allowed to enter and I was so, so scared. My dad had followed Mr Lai’s car and they hadn’t reached yet. I had to settle my mum’s registration and then I had to talk to the police. My dad arrived. Then my friends arrived. I sat at the doorway of the hospital, praying and praying. 10 minutes later, my dad came out and told me my mum didn’t make it. I dropped in the middle of the hospital floor, screaming. Everyone was looking at me, but I didn’t care. A bunch of doctors came out to get me; they took me to a special room. They questioned me and they told me about how my mum was already gone when we were in the ambulance. They tried their best to revive her.

I remember.

I remember coming home. My friends just sat in silence. I just sat in silence. I was covered in blood, mama’s blood. I had to get myself together. I had to bathe. We broke the news to my sister through Face Time and that was really hard to do. Slowly, people started coming. It was hard seeing my aunts and uncles cry, my parent’s close friends, my close friends and to know I had to keep it all together. It was really hard, telling my story to everyone. It’s really hard to even close my eyes for awhile because i see it replaying in my head over and over again. Watching my mum lying in her pool of blood and not being able to do anything. Not being able to save her.

People come, then people leave. All I hear is “I’m so sorry for your loss” or “my condolences”. All I hear is people questioning me about what happened, since I was the sole witness. But I am so tired of telling this story over and over again. I am so tired of hearing other people tell this story. This is my story. This is the truth. Newspapers and reporters may twist it around and exaggerate to the whole world, but this story will remain the truth forever.

I am truly grateful and appreciative to everyone who came, whether it was for a short period, or a long time. Thank you to those who’ve brought a little bit more of hope and joy to me, even though you guys didn’t try. Thank you to those who’ve brought food and drinks, and flowers. Thank you to everyone who called, texted, Whatsapped, Facebook-ed and tweeted me. I don’t know how i became a trending topic overnight (#prayforhuiwei). I was mad at first, but then I realised how much my family had all of your love and support. Whether i know you or not, whether you knew my mum or not, all your kind words really helped. My mother was such an amazing and beautiful person.

I remember.

My mum’s last words to me were “I love you so much” dying there, on the road. I watched it all. I watched it all slip out of my hands. Now my life feels so empty. I keep thinking to myself that this is all a dream. Maybe I’d wake up and be able to avoid this from happening. Maybe if someone pinched me I’d wake up from this nightmare. But this is reality, and I have to face the facts. I have to face the fact that I’m alone now. I have to face the sounds of crying and wailing from the other room. I have to face the facts that I’m going to grow up motherless, clueless and confused. It won’t be easy, but I will get through this.

Ma,

I love you so much. And I am so sorry I had to watch you die. I am so sorry I couldn’t save you. But you’re with God now. Ma you’re such a great person. Beautiful inside and out. And I thank you for teaching me your ways. Thank you for always teaching (scolding) me to be a better person. Even though we’ve had our moments, and times we didn’t see eye to eye, you’ll always be my best friend. Who’s going to pick me up from school now? Who am I going to say “HEY MA” to and tell them about my day? Who’s going to cuddle up with me on the couch and be lazy for awhile?

Ma,

Remember how you used to come into my room while I was studying, and hug me then tickle me. Remember how you used to sing me to sleep when I was young. Or how you used sing when you’re happy. You had a beautiful voice. Remember how we sat on the couch, looking for coloured beads to do arts and crafts. Remember every single day we spent together.

Ma,

I just saw your body, lying in the coffin. You look so beautiful, peaceful, just like you’re sleeping. And I have the biggest urge to scream “wake up”. Thank you, Ma. For giving me life, for giving me love. You taught me everything good in my life. You were always selfless, God-fearing. You were my strong pillar of hope and love. And even though you’re no longer here with us, you’re with God. And you’re happy, just like how you appeared in Lissa’s dream. And I do hope justice will be served. They’re working on finding the criminals, ma. They will be caught.

We all miss you, ma, we miss you so much. Goh Ee and Sar Ee has already appointed themselves as my “mama” and I see you so much of you in them. And it’s not going to be the same anymore. Nothing will be the same anymore. You’re not going to watch me graduate, you’re not going to watch me get married. You’re not going to be there to take care of my children. But I know you are with us in spirit, and you’re always watching over us. Please give me the strength and courage to move forward with my life. Please give me the motivation to be better. To be more like you. To spread the love and joy. Papa, Tache and I will always be grateful for you are the biggest blessing God has given. And maybe you’ve done too much good so The Lord called you home. And you are safe now, safe with God. He will watch over you (and us) and protect you. You are safe from all the evil now.

I will make you proud, mama. I will make everyone proud. I love you so much. I’ll love you every single day of my life, and I’ll never forget whatever you’ve done for me. Thank you so much. Rest in peace, mama, I love you.

* This is a post written by Hui Wei on the blog, “the ugly truth”.

Main - Malaysia - In cyberspace, a daughter remembers ?mother, hero? @ Mon Apr 22 2013


...then i read news like this and my blood boils...

PETALING JAYA: Crime rate is down but Malaysians still do not feel so, hence the focus will be on improving public confidence on safety, says the Government Transforma*tion Programme (GTP) report.

It stated that the country’s crime index had decreased by 26.8% since the first phase of the GTP began in 2009.

Malaysia has been ranked the safest and most peaceful country in South East-Asia according to the Global Peace Index, said the GTP report.

It also recorded around 550.1 criminal incidents per 100,000 population, placing Malaysia lower than Singapore, Hong Kong, Britain and the United States.

However, it added that “public feeling of security remained low”, based on surveys.

The Reducing Crime National Key Results Area (NKRA) team surmised that this could be because positive action and initiatives under the first GTP had “little visibility compared to highly-publicised instances of crime itself”.

It cited the spate of snatch theft and assault cases in public parking lots, which were highlighted.

“Thus, there is a need to better engage the public and raise awareness about the NKRA, as well as to equip the rakyat to minimise the risk of becoming victims,” the report said.

It said that the second phase of the GTP would see the continuation of several initiatives like the “omnipresence programme”, which successfully reduced the overall street crime and index crime by 41.3% and 7.6% respectively in 2012.

The programme would see increased police personnel on patrol in areas like schools, shopping centres, markets and transport terminals to create a better perception of safety.

The United Against Crime public engagement campaign under the first GTP would be expanded to include dialogues with key groups like women and residents’ associations on how to protect themselves.

The report said that safety perception surveys, crime awareness days and women’s awareness programmes would be organised to increase the safety perception index.

There would also be more volunteer community policing initiatives with police support to get the public involved in crime fighting.
 

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This is just damm sad whey. Just imagine that girl's feelings, knowing that her mother sacrificed herself to protect her. This is one of those emotional scars that won't fade away, at least not so easily. This memory will haunt her for the rest of her life just because some retarded robbers decide to stab people like nobodies business. Yeap, Malaysia is safe.
Yes, is true. Is looks like those in the movies but this is reality. It really did happened somehow.
Those cold-blooded scumbags!

That's a 2-edged sword. Imagine if they found the parangs?
Yup, have to keep it in the room or somewhere really hidden

Buy a powerful paint ball gun as a weapon. Don't underestimate it..could cause severe damage at close range and even death of shot in the face or eyes lol
Agree, within far range hitting right to my thigh, i had blue blacks on my thigh and only fade away
after 2 weeks.

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trying to look for it but where to buy ah?

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gotta hide it & hopefully i get to it 1st before they do. normally thieves when they break into a hse, they will go to the kitchen to get a knife 1st.
Got a friend selling if you want. my ex-schoolmate working for one company selling paintball guns.
Is a good idea since is legal

Brother, thieves come in and look for knifes? they will bring their own leh!
Moreover if they break in should be wee hours most of the time, so keep the parang in your room.
I went for fire seminar, they ask also where to keep the fire extinguisher? I say Kitchen, so they answer No, Even though kitchen most of the time easier to start fire, and if fire extinguisher is there how are you going to use it? Moreover if at night got fire any where in the house if extinguisher in your room you can get to it the fastest, like wise the parang.....:rolleyes:

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That route up the temple where she was killed, is very quiet one. I have used many times for my walk, even though most of the time I go into the forest area. That is why nowadays I use walking stick (old already mah!) but good against dogs and likewise if got robbers.....:biggrin:
Walking they wont rob u gua, unless u wearing an underwear sew with swaroski/diamonds. :rofl:

Lots of foreigners here because they are our labourers. Unless local Malaysians want to work as labourers, these foreign helpers are essential to our economy, so it isn't as easy as sending them all back home.


It is the same as foreign students. Malaysia wants to be an educational hub but unfortunately, the takers are, erhm, gangster students. I've seen these students driving brand new Mercs!

Believe it or not, I bought the Bear Pepper Spray and keep it at home. It comes in a large tin and can shoot 35 feet!



Unfortunately, very expensive and too big to put in handbag. :biggrin:
Yup, is true, cheaper labour and work that they do are not something Malaysians would do. A job
where the pay is just way too low to live in Malaysia while for them after converting the currency
is quite a lot to them.

Where do u put that bear spray? :stoned: Looks heavy and looks lethal. If a bear cant
stand that spray, I think humans are gonna suffer more :rofl:

Get a small pepperspray and put in ur handbag. But then a car key can be real lethal
as well...

Arturo:

Crime rate lower than Singapore? Lower my ass, wanna compare how many cases reported in the Star about Malaysia with Singapore newspaper? This is totally trying to deceive us in believing
crime rate is low...

How to feel safe when someone just got killed
 
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Oh, I didn't know one can "Like" posts here...like Facebook!

Because that is for bears.....:biggrin:
You can buy those smaller ones for handbags from some pharmacies....
Already got the small "lipstick" size too.

The crime rate here is worrying. Recently, a male friend of mine got robbed near a large shopping mall here. He was walking to his car, talking on his handphone, when two men (wearing helmets and ski masks!) on a bike approached him, demanding for phone and money.

My friend put up a fight. He's quite big sized like a UFC fighter, but he got punched fully in the face during the fight. My friend did wallop those two robbers nicely. They rode off, nothing stolen but my friend got a nice blue black eye. He was on MC for a week.

In another story, my friend's handbag was stolen right off beside her in the car. Aware of this smash and grab, she put her handbag on the floor (not on seat) but it was still stolen when a bike came over during a traffic light stop.

She now puts her handbag in the trunk. She only brings in her purse with her in the car cabin.

Shudder....
 

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Oh, I didn't know one can "Like" posts here...like Facebook!

Already got the small "lipstick" size too.

The crime rate here is worrying. Recently, a male friend of mine got robbed near a large shopping mall here. He was walking to his car, talking on his handphone, when two men (wearing helmets and ski masks!) on a bike approached him, demanding for phone and money.

My friend put up a fight. He's quite big sized like a UFC fighter, but he got punched fully in the face during the fight. My friend did wallop those two robbers nicely. They rode off, nothing stolen but my friend got a nice blue black eye. He was on MC for a week.

In another story, my friend's handbag was stolen right off beside her in the car. Aware of this smash and grab, she put her handbag on the floor (not on seat) but it was still stolen when a bike came over during a traffic light stop.

She now puts her handbag in the trunk. She only brings in her purse with her in the car cabin.

Shudder....
What I can say is that, whenever we are walking to our cars, try not to talk when you walk.
Because you won't be 100% alert of your surroundings.

2ndly, you can hold on to your car keys where the sharp point is in between your fingers.
Gripping it as if you have Claws like Wolverine. Guarantee is deadly and can either slash
or strive it up to the criminals. Slash vital points like neck and eyes.

Putting up a fight is not a wise choice as well, you won't know how unlucky you can be
even if you're a good fighter unless your life is at stake and no where to run.

Best weapon is to run.

Only one Bruce Lee in the world and no other.

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Ah! but the robbers killed that woman who was walking also. Her stuffs in plastic bag she was carrying....:banghead:
Maybe what she carries was obvious. U carry a stick only ma..unless is gold plated walking stick haha
 

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