NGV for Turbo engines

wwwyakuzamy

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Adakah NGV sesuai untuk kereta engin turbo (4G93T & 4G63T)? Berapakah harga set NGV untuk kereta engin turbo dan dimana saya boleh memperolehinya? Saya dengar dari kawan2 NGV tidak sesuai untuk engin turbo. Betulkah fakta itu? Kalau betul apa sebabnya dan apa akan berlaku pada engin dalam jangkamasa pendek dan panjang?
 

xtremeleo

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Re: NGV Untuk Kereta Engin Turbo

okie, its a good question, so i beg admin not to delete this post.

u can charge any ngv equipped vehicle safely, but boost has to be limited. the thing is, i dont think the ngv pump is able to pump enough gas up if u boost it higher. if u can get a higher capacity pump, maybe u'll be able to fuel up accordingly at higher boost, but for now, the pump isnt sufficient imo. decreasing the compression will help to make the engine more reliable, and cooling system may need an upgrade to make sure the temperature stays cool on long journeys/operations.

i have a fren dat feeds ngv gas to his kancil turbo drag setup, and was able to gain high horses at high boost application. dont get me wrong, dis is a drag car, dat applies max power at most 14sec, so it may lasts longer den street vehicles. this shows dat u can have similar result nonetheless, if everything else is set accordingly. tq sir
 

wwwyakuzamy

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terima kasih banyak2 xtremeleo di atas penjelasan ini. Saya bukan kaki lumba atau drag. Engin evo 3 terpaksa saya tukar kerana saya selalu travel jauh (urusan perniagaan). Drive engin wira standard kurang memuaskan. Oleh kerana harga petrol pun semakin naik, sebab itu saya nak tukar NGV. Sekarang saya guna management E MANAGE. Boost kereta saya pun 0.8 - 1.0 bar sahaja. NGV jenis apa yang sesuai untuk kegunaan macam saya? berapa harga kosnya untuk pasang?
 

APTuning

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There is some matter that should be changed as NGV injectors, main jets for carburetor and NGV pump system for boosting.
As my friend from CAPA, has turbo system to run at Holden and 13B rotary engine
Beware, you must be a professional on tuning and setup system
lean causing engine damage
most of the LPG system in Malaysia comes from China


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YouTube - Blow Through Turbo LPG Guide
 
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egb18c

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terdapat dua jenis ngv system, yang pertama ialah seperti di atas dimana ia menggunakan diaphragm dan terdapat system yg lebih baru dan effisien iaitu sequential.
untuk keterangan lanjut silalalah ke kedai yang lebih arif, terdapat satu kedai specialist iaitu di bandar baru bangi,area puspakom bangi.disana terdapat system sequential ini,ianya adalah seperti injector di dlm kenderaan cik.

Saya juga pernah mengguanakan LPG atapupon tong gas masak didalam system NGV untuk proton TIARA.Penggunaannya adalah sama tetapi tune agak berbeza kerana AFR adalah berbeza dan saya dapati bahawa system ini tidak memerlukan PUMP kerana NGV/LPG menggunakan pressure dari tong mereka sendiri untuk masuk ke dlm combustion chamber.untuk kereta lebih berkuasa, saya rasa AIR FLOW RATE adalah yang penting untuk memastikan ngv yg mencukupi memasuki ke engine.

Selain itu, minyak NGV itu sendiri adalah dry type dan tidak sesuai untuk kenderaan kerana minyak petrol yg kita gunakan adalah wet type.ada juga masalah sy dengar mengenai perbezaan ini dan cik harus juga menggunakan minyak petrol sekali sekala untuk menjaga engine.Saya juga dapati bahawa terdapat MINYAK HITAM NGV, ini adalah untuk mengesyorkan engine lebih selamat kerana dengan menggunkana NGV,engine kenderaan cik akan bergerak dengan lebih panas kerana latent heat ke apetah sy dah lupa adalah lebih tinggi dari petrol.Oleh itu cooling system juga perlu dititik beratkan.

terima kasih.
 

midship

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So this sounds like a bit of a dysfuntional topic where you wanted big power gains in your car by swapping a turbo engine but on the other you want the frugalness from the other end of the equation by installing NGV???... in one word to describe what will happens is... KABOOOM!!!!

You should also probably fall into the category of the type of people who wants a 9 sec quarter mile dragster but will also be the most fuel saving car in the neighbourhood when you go to your favorite hypermarket to pick up weekly groceries with your family and once in a while the in-laws as well.
 
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D7zul

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Malaysia produce NGV & petroleum..

but why do u think we doesn't produce new NGV cars?

Neither Proton nor Perodua produce it..

not reliable? too expensive? .. :dontknow:

lets discuss..
 

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they wan to re-route all to use petrol and diesel so they can choke us whenever they like as usual..... :biggrin:
 

xtremeleo

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i think its more towards giving the aftermarket ngv industry a chance, a lot of cars and commercial fleets are equipped with ngv systems nowadays, i think dats just awesome
 

D7zul

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or mayb they concentrate on electric vehicle?

lots of mayb.. hahahaha :rofl:

:thefinger:
 

D7zul

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i've read sumwhere that NGV is RON 120 or above..

serious? i got to get myself a NGV kit

:biggrin:
 

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