Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[K_Takuya]

nice discussion :)

 

[kipasa]

Hi there,

Just manage to find this forum :p

Need advice on which cams to go for:-

1) matspeed 272/280/282/288
2) squirt cams 288
3) powerzone 264

Current Setup 4g15 with :-

- stroker kit
- iridium plugs
- drop in wire mesh
- 4-2-1 hotbits
- customs 2 inch center pipping with built-in bullet (not sure of this setup)
- back box s-flow (changing to hotbits straight flow back box)
- afc neo (changing to e-manage blue)
- Injectors are standard (thinking of changing to mivec injectors 240cc)

Do let me know if my setup can be improved.

Thanks in advance.

Kipasa

 

[sptham30]

yessir cams are interchangeable

nop sorry cant help u there...me from land of hornbill hehe

mau bawa laju laju jimat masa...masa itu emas hehe

hornbill? sibu or miri?
any good service or mechanic for saga 4g15 8V 1.5 magma? just drove it all the way from sabah. I think carb need tuning. and i'm no expert in that. small small things like pipe change those i can do myself. but tuning is out of my league...

 

[funnymanmk]

hello guys noob here too. got a 4g13 saga carb and want to do a couple of small mods to get better pickup and FC. does anyone have any experience with drop in air filters for these engines? brands ie k&n or redline or hks + shops that sell them + plus any experience with intakes with 4g13 would be damn helpful. or just point me in the right direction would be great too. thanks

 

[kipasa]

try www.speedworks.com.my

go for the knn and the hotbits extractor.

speedworks also has knn cleaning service. cheap

spark plug try bosch super four.

go to a normal exhaust shop and change your center box with a bullet. got extra budget change your back box.

upgrade the front brakes to 1.5 and use mintex or metal king titanium break pads.

have fun.

kipasa



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[vr2turbo]

hello guys noob here too. got a 4g13 saga carb and want to do a couple of small mods to get better pickup and FC. does anyone have any experience with drop in air filters for these engines? brands ie k&n or redline or hks + shops that sell them + plus any experience with intakes with 4g13 would be damn helpful. or just point me in the right direction would be great too. thanks

Just want to mention with better pick up, more power, FC will increase.....

 

[funnymanmk]

thanks for the input guys. i really appreciate it. went to the speedworks website but it seems they dont have any k&n air filters for my car. will try giving them a call later this evening and see what they have. thing is i was only planning on installing the following mods.

1) voltage stabilizer + grounding
2) air intake
3) irridium plugs
4) ignition/ spark plug cables
5) light weight 15" rims

nothing crazy la you know. just enough to get a little more out of the engine without sacrificing FC. i dont need this car to fly like a bat out of hell or anything but it would be nice to have it go to bout 140km without pushing the rpms. any thoughts on best places to purchase the above items or just your input in general would be nice.

possible phase 2 mods (if im feeling like a million bucks la)

1)alluminium radiator
2) light wieght stuff (crank & cam pulleys, con rods )
3) light weight battery
4) light weight fly wheel
5) port polish of course hahaha
6) bigger TB
7) 421 extractor possibly
8) chassis streghtening stuff like struts, bars and such for both upper and lower la

hahaha like i said only if i feel like a million bucks la. anyways im ranting.... but yeah please let me know yeah for the phase 1 stuff. no ones 2 cents is worth no cents

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thanks for the input guys. i really appreciate it. went to the speedworks website but it seems they dont have any k&n air filters for my car. will try giving them a call later this evening and see what they have. thing is i was only planning on installing the following mods.

1) voltage stabilizer + grounding
2) air intake
3) irridium plugs
4) ignition/ spark plug cables
5) light weight 15" rims

nothing crazy la you know. just enough to get a little more out of the engine without sacrificing FC. i dont need this car to fly like a bat out of hell or anything but it would be nice to have it go to bout 140km without pushing the rpms. any thoughts on best places to purchase the above items or just your input in general would be nice.

possible phase 2 mods (if im feeling like a million bucks la)

1)alluminium radiator
2) light wieght stuff (crank & cam pulleys, con rods )
3) light weight battery
4) light weight fly wheel
5) port polish of course hahaha
6) bigger TB
7) 421 extractor possibly
8) chassis streghtening stuff like struts, bars and such for both upper and lower la

hahaha like i said only if i feel like a million bucks la. anyways im ranting.... but yeah please let me know yeah for the phase 1 stuff. no ones 2 cents is worth no cents

apologize for the spamming but i forgot to mention. i saw this voltage stabilizer in brothers called pivot raizin both blue and purple. any thoughts on it or exp with ppl that have used it? any reccomendations?

 

[vr2turbo]

Get Platinum plugs enough lah! Iridium cost much more but won't give you much more....you know what I mean....

The Pivot sold in brothers, original or not?

 

[funnymanmk]

Get Platinum plugs enough lah! Iridium cost much more but won't give you much more....you know what I mean....

The Pivot sold in brothers, original or not?

hahahaha i have no experience with the plat plugs but i know theres a nice response between the normal and irridium plugs. any diff between the irridium and plat asides the price hahaha.

also im not sure if its ori or not. i went to the pivot site to check out how to tell fakes but i havent tested it yet. i know brothers also carries the hks stabilizers. any reccomendations chief?

 

[vr2turbo]

hahahaha i have no experience with the plat plugs but i know theres a nice response between the normal and irridium plugs. any diff between the irridium and plat asides the price hahaha.

also im not sure if its ori or not. i went to the pivot site to check out how to tell fakes but i havent tested it yet. i know brothers also carries the hks stabilizers. any reccomendations chief?

As far as I know, Iridium are more long lasting than normal plugs, slightly longer then Platinum, but price wise a lot more. For my turbo, my club mechanic fitted platinum for me as they cost around RM50 only, Iridium is like 3 times more. To me they work the same. Just get the right heat range.

There are many VS around, many brands also. Have tried them, and for me better lights, meaning like flicker and slightly better audio that is all. Mine is Pivot blue for battery and I got them from N1 Racing

 

[teksikl4g15]

hello i am noobies here..

FYI

aku ni pakai teksi wira 4g15 laa
recently i replace my exhaust system and open air pod filter (betul ke ape aku taip)
supprisingly peh pickup not bad.. last weekend i test with some other pranggg satria and wira.. either they menganjing aku atau they cant go away from me or potong me...

i use 4-2-1 extractor, CAT aku buang ganti yg macam bullet tu kan, muffler s type..

*before that my TB dah replace with new TB yg dah recond or ntah la
and my block has been overhaul la because my timing belt snap daaaa...

top aku tak try lagi.. my third gear can go to nearly 115-120 la, if i`m not wrong

 

[rottenkings]

Hi everyone. Im driving iswara 4g13 carb. Recently i changed my engine oil 15w-40 and the proton oil filter. And one week after that i check my oil level, tiba2 tinggal setengah. During service i fill it full. No oil leaking sign dekat nut oil sump kat bawah engine and also the oil filter. Is my block leaking , or any gasket and sealing problem ? I need help.

 

[issuzark]

Hi everyone. Im driving iswara 4g13 carb. Recently i changed my engine oil 15w-40 and the proton oil filter. And one week after that i check my oil level, tiba2 tinggal setengah. During service i fill it full. No oil leaking sign dekat nut oil sump kat bawah engine and also the oil filter. Is my block leaking , or any gasket and sealing problem ? I need help.

That, you will need to look at it yourself for signs under the car. Are there oil spots on your usual parking spot?

 

[vr2turbo]

Hi everyone. Im driving iswara 4g13 carb. Recently i changed my engine oil 15w-40 and the proton oil filter. And one week after that i check my oil level, tiba2 tinggal setengah. During service i fill it full. No oil leaking sign dekat nut oil sump kat bawah engine and also the oil filter. Is my block leaking , or any gasket and sealing problem ? I need help.

One week is very fast. Check your engine in engine bay for leaks.
If not, top up full again in the morning before you start, then check again in one week also in the morning before you start.

 

[N/A Proton Brudder]

sorry abit off topic here, my 4g13 in my wira kong recently and the the rocker arm assembly completely snapped along with the bolt groves that held it in, cracking the head. im planning to transplant a bigger 4g15 block. the doner engine im planning to get is a 4g15 carburetor engine from an old saga. Assuming i can get the 4g15 injectors, can i still use the ecu on the new block ? its a stock original SVDO . If not mistaken 4g13 and 4g15 use the exact same svdo ecu right ? maybe with a different mapping. can it adapt the mapping to the bigger engine ? any recomendations accepted.

 

[gunnerzz]

sorry abit off topic here, my 4g13 in my wira kong recently and the the rocker arm assembly completely snapped along with the bolt groves that held it in, cracking the head. im planning to transplant a bigger 4g15 block. the doner engine im planning to get is a 4g15 carburetor engine from an old saga. Assuming i can get the 4g15 injectors, can i still use the ecu on the new block ? its a stock original SVDO . If not mistaken 4g13 and 4g15 use the exact same svdo ecu right ? maybe with a different mapping. can it adapt the mapping to the bigger engine ? any recomendations accepted.

get a complete 4g15 injection engine as is easier and lesser headache in future.

no need to complicate an easy job.

 

[vr2turbo]

get a complete 4g15 injection engine as is easier and lesser headache in future.

no need to complicate an easy job.

Yah! agree, this way everything is complete. Frankenstein, later more problem......

 

[N/A Proton Brudder]

gunnerzz and vr2turbo thanks, maybe ill go searching for halfcut that include ecu and all.

 

[N/A Proton Brudder]

hey guys. found a donor car to transplant my new 4g15 efi engine. but i wasnt sure if the ecu that came with the new one is MMC or SVDO. you think i can still use back my old SVDO from the 4g13 that was blown ? will the ecu tune conflict if go from 1.3> 1.5 ?

 

[N/A Proton Brudder]

also will the wiring from ecu to engine be same between mmc and SVDO variant?