Whats the point of buying alarm system?

[HanJackaL]

Whats the point of spending 1-2 k for an alarm system when the car thief can just cut the wires?Judging from the threads,i have noticed that cars with alarm system still get stolen pretty easily.So why spend money on alarm systems when your car still can get stolen just as easily ??Just for the style ??Please comment...

 

[Gti]

haa...ur pretty...
well,what;s the point of locking ur house doors when a thief can similarly cut ur pad lock or climb from the roof?
expensive alarm have their own functions
some of them,they have immobiliser that u cant start ur car until u disarm it
many more functions
well...not alwiz that expensive is good.
sometimes a cheap steering lock can do wonders.
but they definately have their own advantages and functions
the creator of those products ain't no dumbo...
of course,a tow truck means all hell gonna break loose...unless urs a captor...
so...it's a circular argument

 

[trex92]

:D :D so judging from that even cars with alarm gets stolen, better not invest in an alarm at all. Wait, also since all cars stolen have key, so better to save money and effort and dun use keys for our cars at all and leave all doors just unlocked... :D :D

as i mentioned before, ur car is an asset worth RM50k++, so with a standard alarm, u r just using RM200 to protect RM50k++ which does not makes sense. Better to spend more to protect it...

 

[ken yeang]

to a determined car thief, when there is a will there is alwyas a way. No car alrm in this world is perfect.

 

[pdguy]

come on .... alarm also invented n fabricated by person who is smart so surely thre wil be more smarter people to overcome his system ! so its a never ending story ! just own satisfaction by saying my car protected my this X type alarm that all ........ but always manual lock wil come handy !

 

[b00n]

remember the idiom: Rules Are Meant To Be Broken!........
anything can be cracked! Nuthin in this world is full-proofed, even life is not guaranteed....but alarms and locks do help....but obviously if your car is targeted by professionals....these wouldn't help much lar..

personal 2cents

 

[ixeo]

alarm system can be defeated. definately. but remember the TIME factor. the more TIME it is needed to defeat the system, the less a target you will be.

it is stupid to say just because your car CAN be stolen you decide not to install an alarm system. then, you might as well not lock your doors on your house, cause the padlock can be broken.

an alarm system is NOT a prevention system. it is a deterrent system. and you should do more reading, for example, the Clifford Avantgard G5, paired with the wireless immobilizer, whats there to cut? i always say that an alarm system is only as good as the installation, you can have 3k worth of alarm equipment but if its installed by a joker, the wires expoded, brain not hidden well, then it defeats the purpose. but if its done by a real professional, the thief would probably have issues even if the alarm brain was exposed.

 

[trex92]

it is with no doubt that every single system can be broken into. A computer law i read somewhere does come into mind even applicable to car's security system. The law states basically something like the more effort and security put into the system increases the time and effort needed to hack the system. So by increasing this time and effort, it poses as a deterrent to hackers and it would limit the number of people who has the time and the capability to hack it. So putting a sophisticated car alarm is not to say that the car 100% cannot be stolen, but rather deter the thieves from stealing your car. As already posted many times in this forum and other places, car thieves operated on a time concious basis. They know that the longer time they have to spend to steal ur car, the higher chances of them being discovered and caught. So thieves would definitely choose an easier car to steal.

Also i read somewhere (i believe it was the readers' digest) on snatch thieves. They did a criminal profile on how some snatch thieves think. Basically the snatch thieves would target an easy prey, such as a woman who has got her hands full to give a fight such as talking on the handphone, or carrying many things. So the mentality is the same, thieves choose easier target.

This can be seen in the case of the number of types of cars stolen. No doubt BMW and Mercedes are more expensive than Proton, so how come Proton is stolen more than BMW or Mercedes? It is simply because Proton is easier to steal. You need a more professional car thief to overcome BMW or Mercedes, so the number of people who are professional enough are lesser based on the law of averages.

So basically again, putting an expensive system is a deterrent for ur car to be stolen as it makes ur car not so easy to steal.

 

[trex92]

alarm system can be defeated. definately. but remember the TIME factor. the more TIME it is needed to defeat the system, the less a target you will be.

it is stupid to say just because your car CAN be stolen you decide not to install an alarm system. then, you might as well not lock your doors on your house, cause the padlock can be broken.

an alarm system is NOT a prevention system. it is a deterrent system. and you should do more reading, for example, the Clifford Avantgard G5, paired with the wireless immobilizer, whats there to cut? i always say that an alarm system is only as good as the installation, you can have 3k worth of alarm equipment but if its installed by a joker, the wires expoded, brain not hidden well, then it defeats the purpose. but if its done by a real professional, the thief would probably have issues even if the alarm brain was exposed.

bingo!

 

[HanJackaL]

Thanks for the comments guys..i think i will spend money on a high end alarm system after all. What alarm system do you guys recommend?Something that is hard to break into....How much is that clifford avangarte g5 ?What exactly is a wireless immoboliser ?How does an immoboliser work?

 

[Gti]

since u dun even know what's an immobiliser...
it doesn't amaze me if u post this thread
do some homework dude...

 

[ixeo]

just remember the equipment alone is only 20% of the equation. 80% of how effective the security on your car is depends on the installer/installation.

radiostar is not bad for the price, do check them out. the Clifford G5 is upwards of 2k.. and i personally consider it the best in the market currently.

 

[b00n]

btw, HanJackal....what car ur driving??
a 2 way alarm + steering lock or gear lock would be sufficient......

personally.....I would go for gear lock which is harder and requires more time to crack than steering locks. But than....don't loose your key or you'll regret having a gear lock!

 

[DDgreystar]

I got lubang for a gud n effective CLIFFORD n GSM installer.....interested to on, pls let me know i can get good pricing for u...

 

[Fluffy]

radiostar is good..try them out..
but as a better deterant..use steering locks.!

 

[b00n]

handle lock? is that the one where they insert metals inside your card door?
If that's it...I don't like that lar...

why?...it's because personally I would rather them access into the car easily but still cannot to steal the whole car. If with the metal... they would most probably korek until your car door kemek here kemek there....and most probably smash the window too...more damage.
anuther reason is to prevent for accidently locking own car keys inside. So still got the chance to retrieve it. haha
personal thoughts.

 

[ixeo]

handle lock? is that the one where they insert metals inside your card door?
If that's it...I don't like that lar...

why?...it's because personally I would rather them access into the car easily but still cannot to steal the whole car. If with the metal... they would most probably korek until your car door kemek here kemek there....and most probably smash the window too...more damage.
anuther reason is to prevent for accidently locking own car keys inside. So still got the chance to retrieve it. haha
personal thoughts.

get keyless entry then. shave the door and get some actuators. no keyhole on the door, no door handle on the door. of course, you can't do anything about them smashing your windows, but you could install Lexan..but it scratches rather easily.

actually, only pros will slimjim the car, because they want the car in perfect condition. thieves who smash windows usually just want to steal things and not the car.

 

[Fluffy]

boon : sorry..typo error..i meant stering lock..some potential thieves will be discouraged by the steering locks coz it takes time to break open.

 

[ernie]

IMHO, just get a very visible (brightly coloured) lock, you'll spend much less than more eloborate alarm systems, and no matter how knowledgeble the thief is, he'll need time to cut through the lock. A wise thief will probably forget about your car. There's tons of other cars out there that can be stolen. For example, I've tried before, I need less than 5 seconds to disable my stock Kancil alarm, without key.
If you worry about your ICE, either tint your car or get a cheap alarm with shock sensor. Even a noob thief will shake your car to determine if it's fitted with shock sensor before attemping to BMW(break my window) your car.