Supercharger Vs Turbocharger

[Wilson13B]

I believe this question had been asked over and over already,but i just find the answer ~

Comparing between a similar size of Turbocharger and a Centrifugal Supercharger,which one is better?

Thanks =)

 

[D7zul]

this is going to be a poll.. hahaha..

i'm a supercharger fan..

actually, both have pros & cons..

supercharger = more power at mid rev.. (can do a willy with this setup.. FR only)

turbocharger = more power at high rev..

but i love Supercharger.. coz less overheating problem..

 

[DanzEterna]

i choose turbocharged.....
havent tried supercharged yet though......

 

[lonelylilpig]

Turbocharged, less mechanical moving parts hence less loss power due to frictional energy = more kick !

 

[MiniMooqs]

I think if you put two cars that has supercharged and the other turbo on track. One windy roads, supercharge rules but on straight line, turbocharge kicks in and goes better. Thats why rally some cars still use supercharger

 

[judean]

cant hinder myself frm loving em both... ~
ngeeeee ~

 

[Wilson13B]

But alot of my friend says Supercharge no OMMPH .....

It just like driving a large CC vehicle cause the power delivery is very smooth.......

And the Supercharge had a uncontrollable boost,turbo can install EBC to control the boost level on the fly but Supercharge need to replace pulley to adjust the boost press + if turbo and supercharge on the same type of car and engine is tuned to have same amount of boost press at 5000 rpm,let say 1 Bar and the engine can run up to 8000rpm,turbo can have full boost at 5000rpm "means 1bar is turbo full boost" and if the supercharge need to do the same,it need a smaller pulley,it reach 1 bar at 5000rpm and when rev til 8000,how many boost press the supercharged already generated? so supercharge definitely have the less OMMPH then turbocharge,ONLY if the engine can support the extra overboost from the supercharge at 8000rpm ~

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cant hinder myself frm loving em both... ~
ngeeeee ~

Then u should get the VW Polo....it HAVE BOTH

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I think if you put two cars that has supercharged and the other turbo on track. One windy roads, supercharge rules but on straight line, turbocharge kicks in and goes better. Thats why rally some cars still use supercharger

Yeah...on Genting road,if drive properly,Supercharge and VTEC are the king.....

But guess what,there is a technique for turbocharge to be par with Supercharged and VTEC

 

[VectorX2]

Twincharge!

 

[C99D-MMC5537]

nowadays, turbo charger also can function like supercharger. just depend on how u tune it. plonk in not so big turbo with a bit higher compression ratio, the engine will rev not so high (maybe around 5500-6000rpm only) and u'll feel the boost from 1500rpm with very linear torque curve. (see golf GTi, Audi, or 335i engine) put in bigger turbo, a bit lower compression ratio, the engine may rev higher with very high bhp. may lag in low rpm but once the boost come, u may drive in longkang if u cant handle it. 1st u must know how much traction ur car have (either FWD, RWD or 4WD), and ask professional tuner tune your turbo accordingly. NA, supercharger or whatever sure eat dust. my opinion only..

 

[Wilson13B]

nowadays, turbo charger also can function like supercharger. just depend on how u tune it. plonk in not so big turbo with a bit higher compression ratio, the engine will rev not so high (maybe around 5500-6000rpm only) and u'll feel the boost from 1500rpm with very linear torque curve. (see golf GTi, Audi, or 335i engine) put in bigger turbo, a bit lower compression ratio, the engine may rev higher with very high bhp. may lag in low rpm but once the boost come, u may drive in longkang if u cant handle it. 1st u must know how much traction ur car have (either FWD, RWD or 4WD), and ask professional tuner tune your turbo accordingly. NA, supercharger or whatever sure eat dust. my opinion only..

Yeah...about the ditching longkang issue,i nearly tried it when driving my uncle B8 210 Turbo....using AR80 the thing had chruns out more then 400WHP....it got fullboost at around 4K rpm at 1.6Bar,before it fullboost the car feel lumpy to go but once the boost gauge needle spike to 1.6Kg/cm the whole car just like a snake,sway to the left and right,pretty scary but at the same time it was exciting and fun,just fall in love with that wild monster it just gave me a on my face ~

For my ride,few Swift with the same engine have turbocharged already,seems like a AR48 or a TD04H is a suitable turbine for DD,not too small nor too big.....it can generate more then 200WHP on 1.2 Bar.....another one is more hardcore using AR60 or TD06HL which chruns out over 300WHP at the same boost pressure ~ anyway,the smaller the boost pressure the quicker the turbine will spool up especially on a small turbo so it is comparable with Supercharge plus turbo got a "scavenging effect" on the exhaust gases as when the turbine spins it sucks exhaust gasses out of combustion chamber which in turns make it more clean,so it is more efficient then Supercharge ~

 

[YYC]

Aiyaaa... why the dilemma now? Use variable geometry turbocharger you can get almost instant boost from low end and still have good pulling at high end. Supercharger is bad for the environment.

 

[vh-101]

Aiyaaa... why the dilemma now? Use variable geometry turbocharger you can get almost instant boost from low end and still have good pulling at high end. Supercharger is bad for the environment.

oh i see.. can you explain why.?

 

[D7zul]

i think it's VW Scirocco that has twincharger (supercharge + turbo)

 

[YYC]

i think it's VW Scirocco that has twincharger (supercharge + turbo)

Good one, Scirocco 160PS!

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oh i see.. can you explain why.?

The boost of supercharger comes from power of engine while boost is derived from the exhaust gas in a turbocharger.

The thermal efficiency, or fraction of the fuel/air energy that is converted to output power, is less with a mechanically driven supercharger than with a turbocharger, because turbochargers are using energy from the exhaust gases that would normally be wasted. For this reason, both the economy and the power of a turbocharged engine are usually better than with superchargers. The main advantage of an engine with a mechanically driven supercharger is better throttle response, as well as the ability to reach full-boost pressure instantaneously.
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[Wilson13B]

Aiyaaa... why the dilemma now? Use variable geometry turbocharger you can get almost instant boost from low end and still have good pulling at high end. Supercharger is bad for the environment.

But this one is hard to BOT into a non-VGT engine ~ it require a ECU to control the vane ~

 

[D7zul]

Any engine will produce Carbon Monoxide.. NA, Supercharge or Turbo.. and it's harmful to d environment.. no need to argue on that..

get a Catalyc Converter.. and it will convert Carbon Monoxide to Carbon Dioxide..

read all about it here



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[vh-101]

Any engine will produce Carbon Monoxide.. NA, Supercharge or Turbo.. and it's harmful to d environment.. no need to argue on that..

get a Catalyc Converter.. and it will convert Carbon Monoxide to Carbon Dioxide..

read all about it here



Catalytic converter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

if you get it your car will loose power la

 

[VectorX2]

if you get it your car will loose power la

if everybody were to remove cat con, then the environment kills faster and there will be no more environment left to play with cars...

 

[YYC]

Aiyaaa... like that use full electric motor, you get flat torque from 0-100! And it's greener.

 

[D7zul]

HYBRID!!!!