GSR or EVO1-wats the best

[S1997]

S1997,
Now how do u think mitsu used evo on lancer bodies to win championships? hehehe... =Þ Handling wise on a wira is fine... on a satria, a bit susah... coz' the weight not very balanced... satria no backside mar, so like almost 70-80% of the weight is at the front. Satria will understeer significantly more compared to a wira.

GSR engine not that heavy, so on a satria it handles significantly better. But on a wira, it'll feel a bit more sluggish compared to a satria due to the weight difference. =Þ

Hope this info helps!

alvin, u running on gsr or evo?
whats ur setup for handling?

 

[alvin24]

S1997,
I was on a GSR (kind of... 4G91 turbo to be exact, but whooped 170hp on wheels)... now on an EVO.

I'm using koni shocks with kgmm springs... works great on the previous engine... but now with the evo... i'm still scratching my head. Understeer damn kau on track.

I'm still waiting to get a set of customized teins... have to wait till N1 Racing has the equipment arriving mid this year, then see if that would be better for my handling.



ben_gsr2s,
suspension setup can only bring u so far... weight distribution does matter a lot. =Þ Still think the EVO handles better on a wira... putra with a GSR should handle pretty darn good as well.

 

[S1997]

S1997,
I was on a GSR (kind of... 4G91 turbo to be exact, but whooped 170hp on wheels)... now on an EVO.

I'm using koni shocks with kgmm springs... works great on the previous engine... but now with the evo... i'm still scratching my head. Understeer damn kau on track.

I'm still waiting to get a set of customized teins... have to wait till N1 Racing has the equipment arriving mid this year, then see if that would be better for my handling.



ben_gsr2s,
suspension setup can only bring u so far... weight distribution does matter a lot. =Þ Still think the EVO handles better on a wira... putra with a GSR should handle pretty darn good as well.

alvin, how come u never consider titan or hwl? done research on that?Thanks

 

[dolly]

hehe alvin, i'm always at ah thongs place, and if i'm there i always bitch about 4g63 on satrias. I have a couple of thigns left to try and rid the car of _some_ understeer, if not i have a 4g93t block waiting at home. also another thing i need to improve is driver skills la :P

to the poster, i suggest you decide on what you want to do, track or drag? if track the lighter the better since we are limited to 2 wheels (different story all together if you go 4wd)

 

[iswara204]

wow..so many new info bro's..really app that..but im still curious on afew matters..

Is the any diff with GSR and Libero(other than the big intercooler)?which is powerful?

It is also a talk by people saying EVO is a older engine..GSR is newer..but overhauling will prevent probs...Roughly,how much will a standard overhauling will cost? Wat will be done for a overhaul? As i know there is 2 types. Top overhaul and full overhaul but never knew wat does that actually mean..

What is the best setup for handling for a wira that uses a GSR? and also EVO?
if can specify the brand...

S1997-how come ur car stuck there?if tak jadi approve, they(JPJ) wont give back the car huh?this is bad la..then how to percaya the runner and after we spent that much of money in converting a EVO...made me to think bro..

alvin24-true also, never seen or heard lately abt people converting to EVO...now im thinking harder to convert a EVO but the enormuos power produced by EVO making me think even harder..hehe..i'll go crazy la like this...

dolly-planning it more for a drag street use...

 

[alvin24]

S1997,
Titans aren't cheap... for that price i'd rather get teins. HWL i've considered before... i might get a set of HWL if I don't get my Teins... still waiting to see how it goes, coz' i was originally supposed to get sponsors for the Teins... now not so sure if the sponsorship will come through.
But then again, if wanna get HWL... I might as well buy a set of 2nd hand Teins and send for full servicing at N1 Racing once the equipment arrives from Japan... then they'd be good as new! =Þ

dolly,
Hahaha... i'm not surprised i'm not the only satria bitchin' bout the heavy front. I'm sure all 4G63 Satria owners feel the same way too. =Þ but 'sai erm sai' downgrade back to 93t oh? Dun la... so sayang. =Þ Summore i heard now 1.8 oso they dun allow 2.0 conversion (Dunno how true laaa).


iswara204,
I've always adviced people... don't jump into something you don't know.
Or in other words... if u wanna mod the car... you better LEARN all there is to know before you do something. The internet got a lotta info... all u gotta do is dig it! =Þ Try dig up and read up all there is to know about overhauling, etc etc. Don't expect people to teach u every single thing. =Þ
Please don't take this the wrong way though... just a friendly advice.

As for overhaul... it means opening up the whole engine... and reassembling it all over again... and at the same time replacing all parts that have worn off or needs replacement. After overhaul... its as good as new. Both me and dolly are on overhauled evo engines... and i haven't come across a SINGLE problem with it so far... i'm sure dolly haven't either.

GSR newer or not... as I said... depends on mileage... coz' u'll NEVER know what car the car was manufactured. =Þ unless so happen u found the car's registration card in the glove compartment.. and u knew how to read japanese! hahahaha... =Þ

GSR and Libero have the same HP if i'm not mistaken. But like what I tell everyone else la... GSR or Libero... RS or non RS... evo1 or evo2 or evo3... doesn't make a difference once u start modying it.
Coz' the likeliness is... you'd have changed the parts that makes them different in the first place to upgrade to aftermarket parts anyways !! =)

 

[S1997]

S1997-how come ur car stuck there?if tak jadi approve, they(JPJ) wont give back the car huh?this is bad la..then how to percaya the runner and after we spent that much of money in converting a EVO...made me to think bro..

what i meant by stuck is not able to go on the street legally. So stuck at home cant drive. thats what i meant.

How to percaya? I think the best is to see the road tax of those ppl that he
has done.

You can also buy the halfcut. Before putting the engine in, let the runner apply for kawal selia if he is doing the kawal selia way. I think the best is still to see prove lar.

Or just go for gsr lar, save the hassle :)

 

[iswara204]

ermmm..

no worries..i always take things positively...i'll buy that advise..talking abt modding, yeah i agree each individual who wants to get in modding their ride must know this and that..so yeah, im in the learning process...hehe...u guys are the expert and sifu 1's la...so must show the correct path to the upcommers..hehe..kiddin man...cheerzz...

 

[iswara204]

ermm...yeah i think i'll check on his car..he claimed that vr4 convertion was done to his 1.3....

 

[alvin24]

Don't forget that.... maybe his conversion was done years ago when it was still legal to do so? =)

 

[evo3]

i done the conversion from 1.6 to 2.0 last time... but that is almost 3 years ago...hehehe

i spend about 2-3k to overhaul the whole engine before putting it in...from timing belt to ball bearing....pulley go for balancing...but in the end, got conned by mechanic cos he use Mitsuboshi timing belt and it putus less then 1 year during hi revving..the engine top all gone...

alot of ppl say 4G63 (vr4 - evo) are old engine and problematic..but if u overhaul the whole engine and by changing the parts that are worn out if will be good as new... :) most ppl from what i see in the workshop, they just buy the engine, put it on, then boost to 1.0 bar , of cos go kaboom la.....the parts are worn from previous owner in Japan, and imagine how long does the half cut sit in Japan, then ship to Malaysia, cleared by customs and then to chop shop....

 

[alvin24]

Precisely lor... after overhaul... good as new. =)

 

[iswara204]

so overhauling will the best medicine la...well, juzz wanna check, how much will a top overhaul cost for a GSR?

 

[alvin24]

SkyZone charges RM450 on workmanship alone for a top overhaul... excluding the parts that u'll need (if any). So i guess market price should be somewhere around there, plus minus la.

 

[AsianBookie]

same question again

aga aga how much for the overhauling??

lets say like is a 12 to 13 years engine with 200000km mileage

how much u need to overhaul

 

[alvin24]

depends on your luck... open the engine... then only can see what needs replacement merr... kinda like a lucky draw! hahaha... u'll never know whut u're gonna get till u dig inside the bag.

Anywayz... wormanship for rebuilding engine is usually around 1.5k like that... the parts that usually needs to be change will be all the seals, gasket and piston rings. If u're lucky... thats all that needs changing... if u not lucky, maybe open up found out tappens a bit worn, piston edges a bit cracked, maybe even valves a bit dented... ahha. =Þ

Like I said... depends on your luck. =)

 

[Cek Pit]

just get an NA engine...anything with massive torque the turbo produce wouldnt be good on a stupif FF cheap budget car...or else make it 4WD.period..

 

[alvin24]

just get an NA engine...anything with massive torque the turbo produce wouldnt be good on a stupif FF cheap budget car...or else make it 4WD.period..

Pretty BOLD words u have there...

 

[AsianBookie]

lol relac dude

trying to learn something here

from china ?

u ride a bicycle issit