Experienced Tuner in KK/Brunei/Miri

[ashabmy]

Friends,

I'm thinking of installing e-manage/SAFCII, but worry about any good tuner in KK. Heard about JC, but they seems to close their shop already. Any other alternative? KK will be prority, but dont mind to go to Brunei or Miri.

thanx..

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

try to go for Hamid...0198336800

 

[reintel]

JC moved to inanam.

 

[ashabmy]

Daihatsu Mira/reintel,

TQ. Can I have JC phone number? or Hamid is working with JC?
Will visit them in my next trip to KK:regular_smile:

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

no,hamid doesn't work in JC...he does own himself workshop...and he is a good tuner...he is expert in Haltech...
and he also the winner of 2nd tawau drag race...
he also can tune SAFC,EMANAGE,MICROTECH...etc...
try to contact him lah...
he is a very nice person...
cheers...
hope u can get good tune there...

 

[cyborgsabah]

can try Ah Tet (Speedway)... manage to get 2nd place of the first tawau drag race and winner of 2nd drag race (group A)... he can install and tune e-manage, s-afc & haltech... his contact no. 019-8297721, tell him man white evo2 intro...

 

[ashabmy]

Tawau drag racing?

Wah... didn't know that they organised drag racing in Tawau! I came from Sabah East Coast, but only go back there twice a year.

thanx guys.. will see them in my next trip to KK. actually, two of us plan to install the SAFCII... for my Focus & for his Lynx RS.

cheers

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

ah tet ...is one good tuner too...
u can try to call them both...
cheers

 

[nova]

I think my contribution to this thread was lost during processing by zerotohundred yesterday. So have to repost my message.

Sorry guys I can't agree with your recommendation to ashabmy about going for those tuners who happen to have won championship in drag races. What I wanted to say is that before ashabmy decide on which tuner to use, he should understand what purpose he is going to use his car for. For example, if you are merely going to turn your car into an all-out drag race car, I am sure you won't have much problem with the present tuners in Sabah.

However, if ashabmy is thinking of a daily driving car to go to work, ferrying gf/bf, etc and of course the power, you will have to look for an 'all rounder' tuner who can guarantee your car run like a factory car with all the usual comforts like air-con control, fuel economy, good starting in the morning, no spark plug fouling, and many more, but also get you the torque and power when you want to go racing once in a while to redline. According to freinds who have gone through the experience in Sabah, there is no such all round tuner in Sabah yet.

So when you want to use any tuner, make sure they can do the job properly. It pays if you don't rush yourself into this before checking out from your friends who have their cars done up recently by the same tuners.

And don't go for the tuners who say they can do it at very cheapy price like RM300 for all on a standalone computer. The actual cost for a proper job is much more than RM300. The reason why they charge cheap is they are still trying to get experience from experimenting with your cars and at the same time, they also do it cheap for advertising themselves first. A good respectable and confident tuner does not sell himself cheap. Neither do they do charity work as a living. Imagine what they wil say when your engine is blown during tuning. For RM300 tuning fee, what do you expect them to compensate your loss?

 

[reintel]

wahhh,soo long ar ur explaination? like that, send to me lah, i charge RM100 for tuning, then can save RM200 for hotel stay! hehehe......

 

[phoenixpower]

I think my contribution to this thread was lost during processing by zerotohundred yesterday. So have to repost my message.

However, if ashabmy is thinking of a daily driving car to go to work, ferrying gf/bf, etc and of course the power, you will have to look for an 'all rounder' tuner who can guarantee your car run like a factory car with all the usual comforts like air-con control, fuel economy, good starting in the morning, no spark plug fouling, and many more, but also get you the torque and power when you want to go racing once in a while to redline. According to freinds who have gone through the experience in Sabah, there is no such all round tuner in Sabah yet.

Nicely put.

I would assume that your mods on your Focus is very minimal unless you have a WRC spec Zetec engine:regular_smile: .

IMO, I dont mind spending my cash on upgraded ECU chip(e.g Superchip, BBR's starchip) than allowing someone destroy my engine. It's not easy sourcing your engine parts when sh*t happens plus the time wasted.

Just my two cents.

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

wahhh,soo long ar ur explaination? like that, send to me lah, i charge RM100 for tuning, then can save RM200 for hotel stay! hehehe......

haha...agree with reintel...
long explaination...
in sabah...who's else can tuned those standalone ecu?
can someone list out here...
but i know some can seriously can tuned mircotech and haltech and some branded aftermarket ecu...
there are :
1.chris(mircotech dealer in kk)
2.ringo(mircotech dealer in tawau)
3.hamid(haltech dealer in kk)
4.ah tet (experience mechanic in kk)
5. ?
6.
who can help me to filled the following ...

almost all the above are quite famous tuner in sabah...
if u want to install aftemarket ecu then wanna run ur engine like factory setting..what i can said is ,it is POSSIBLE..coz tuning is from the tuner...
try to found out tuning with hamid...some of my frens had install haltech with him ,then get satified with his tuning...
their car also can run with aircond when the traffic is jam...
morning start also okay...
what the problem u facing not mean they cant fix it ,just depends on them want to do the best or not...
all the function are in the ecu.but some of them just fully tune it...
and not all the people who install aftermarket and go ferrying their gf/bf...
some of them install aftermarket ecu is for RACING purpose only ,so their dont ask to fully tuned...
and for those who wnat to race and want to daily use car can asked for good tune....
but if u guys request for it then they can help to done it...
example:my fren wira install evo2 engine and install haltech with hamid...
then i sak him any different with the ori ecu...then he's answer is the fuel is more economy...and get more power gain...

so before u install a aftermarket ecu better ask...
then compare first ,and think deeply...
cheers...

 

[nova]

Tuning engineers of car manufactuerers in the world spent thousands of manhours in getting the production car to run optimal in all roads conditions so that they can sell their cars. They are also mindful of fuel economy and no one factory wants to their products to be a gas guzzler. For RM300 and a few hours of road tunes and don't know how many times to arrange for the car to ulangi balik workshop, I don't think anyone can call it a good tune.Sorry. :)

 

[ashabmy]

Wow... didn't expect this thread will be this "hot". BTW, thanks all for the input.

For info, me & my friend just would like to have a bit of power & satisfaction for modification. Not intended for racing purposes. If for racing, I would buy the an old japanesse car & modify kaw-kaw. Dont think I will risk my Focus for racing:_: So far our mods (Focus & Lynx RS):
1) CAI intake
2) Hotbit full exhaust system
3) e-manage (soon) + dyno test
Next plan will be light turbo or supercharge.

I've searching for SAFCII & other mods stuffs in KK. Went to Empire (Bukit Padang), G-Power (P'pang) & other shops, most of them recommended JC for the tuning. Good thing about JC is they have a Dyno & so called "experienced". Some other friends also told me incident of mechanic blown the engine during tuning, but they cant confirm the mechanic/shop name.

Will definitely visit those guys & find out more. Dont mind to pay extra but the quality & confidence.

cheers

 

[reintel]

Nova,

i can agree your long statement. however, please for heaven sake! KK Bah ni !! firstly we dont have machine to test, we dont have place to learn, we dont have circuit for road test. if for jalan2 and some increase in power, i think those tuner can do it. u have to bear in mind, any changes such as intake system, fuel delivery system would need a proper tune up to match back on watever gadget they have installed. if like that, i suggest u to start writing, 'Why don't we ban performance shop'. most of the tuners using wideband AFR to ensure right mixture before they head off for road tuning. u can't trust 100% from dyno machine to give a good setup as there are much other things u have to take consideration and it can be a major one such as wind velocity, engine bay temp, road temp, baro thing.. blah,blah,blah...........

judging from ur statement, im sure u found a great tuner, right? wudn't mind to reveal here so i too can send my car there??

 

[reintel]

ashabmy,

SAFC2 now price are getting lower as apexi NEO already came out wif more selection. kk price slight expensive. KL more option.

 

[nova]

Hi Reintel,
I don't doubt the capability of the tuners in Sabah when tuning for power for drag races and they are respectable in this respect. However, when it comes to all round tuning, it is a different story. It is always a good thing to share and raise the awareness of our forum members on the pros and cons of aftermarket tuning and in the wrong hands, it can be costly and frustrating to the end users . The decision making task rests with the end users.

Maybe the increasing popularity of piggybacks like SAFC,E-manage, etc also indicates the bad experience from using aftermarket standalone ecu (either limited ecu capability or tuner factor). Piggyback still retains the factory mappings and settings and therefore the comfy factors. This is more suited to people like ashabmy who wants to retain quality of rides and driving but also want to have some mods done to his car which require some recalibration.

Wibeband AF meter is a good start but not the only tool used by pro tuners. I know wideband AF meter is nowadays so cheap that even the not so knowledgeable but well-to-do also install one in their cars for the 'cool' factor, something as common as a boost-meter. I am not talking about those narrow band oxygen sensor readers either. A good wideband in the wrong hand can also lead to disaster.

Dyno is just a part of tuning. But for some very experienced tuners, they can even do a proper job on the dyno without getting on the roads. Good thing with the right dyno is that it allows you to run through more different load conditions than you can encounter on the roads near your workshop. In addition, it is probably safer. :regular_smile:

 

[reintel]

Nova,

firstly u have to understand of the use of piggyback and standalone fuel management system. The reason for piggyback invented is for the car to retain some of its original function such as airbag, traction control and other stuff. A standalone fuel management system also are highly overrated and it was meant for user to fully adjust its engine capability 100% or even more. the pro tuner mention here has done using standalone ecu to be use for daily driven car. i myself have few frens currently using it and goes to work to and fro. unless u intend for serious competition, i suppose this would be a good option.

Ah tet himself promote emanage ( piggyback mention by u) and few of his customer using it. so it he one of the so called 'all-rounder tuner' or the pro tuner as u describe them? using piggyback was NOT the reason or indication of bad experience using standalone. it is merely a reason to keep originality of the more ever popular expensive cars. Even ah tet after such time promotes e-manage, he see's some limitation thus goes back to standalone ecu. the 2nd reason would be due to price factor whereby piggyback still much cheaper than a standalone.

hmm.... how cum this discussion from 'asking tuners in sabah' bcums 'piggyback against standalone ecu' topics? hehehhee.................

 

[phoenixpower]

Wow... didn't expect this thread will be this "hot". BTW, thanks all for the input.

For info, me & my friend just would like to have a bit of power & satisfaction for modification. Not intended for racing purposes. If for racing, I would buy the an old japanesse car & modify kaw-kaw. Dont think I will risk my Focus for racing:_: So far our mods (Focus & Lynx RS):
1) CAI intake
2) Hotbit full exhaust system
3) e-manage (soon) + dyno test
Next plan will be light turbo or supercharge.

I've searching for SAFCII & other mods stuffs in KK. Went to Empire (Bukit Padang), G-Power (P'pang) & other shops, most of them recommended JC for the tuning. Good thing about JC is they have a Dyno & so called "experienced". Some other friends also told me incident of mechanic blown the engine during tuning, but they cant confirm the mechanic/shop name.

Will definitely visit those guys & find out more. Dont mind to pay extra but the quality & confidence.

cheers

Looking at the application chart below(attached), some of the engine's listed may share the same setup(trigger system,etc) with your Ford Focus but..are you willing to take the risk if you fry your ECU? It would make a huge hole in your pocket you know.. Furthermore, what sort of gains are you expecting? With those mods you mentioned, don't expect a 50lbs/ft torque or 50hp increase..

There may be some increase somewhere in the torque/horsepower when you're on the dyno but I can tell you that the gains a pretty minimal with your butt dyno with the sort of bolt on stuff you have ..the real deal starts when you go deep technical. That's where it separates the boys from the man.:regular_smile:

To prove me wrong, you'd have to have the sh*ttiest intake and exhaust system from factory and then only that would be a different story all together.

 

[Daihatsu Mira]

Nova,

firstly u have to understand of the use of piggyback and standalone fuel management system. The reason for piggyback invented is for the car to retain some of its original function such as airbag, traction control and other stuff. A standalone fuel management system also are highly overrated and it was meant for user to fully adjust its engine capability 100% or even more. the pro tuner mention here has done using standalone ecu to be use for daily driven car. i myself have few frens currently using it and goes to work to and fro. unless u intend for serious competition, i suppose this would be a good option.

Ah tet himself promote emanage ( piggyback mention by u) and few of his customer using it. so it he one of the so called 'all-rounder tuner' or the pro tuner as u describe them? using piggyback was NOT the reason or indication of bad experience using standalone. it is merely a reason to keep originality of the more ever popular expensive cars. Even ah tet after such time promotes e-manage, he see's some limitation thus goes back to standalone ecu. the 2nd reason would be due to price factor whereby piggyback still much cheaper than a standalone.

hmm.... how cum this discussion from 'asking tuners in sabah' bcums 'piggyback against standalone ecu' topics? hehehhee.................

hmmm,i think we are off topic there...
come on back to topic here...
we are not here to argue lah...
ashabmy...hope u get the right tuner,good luck to u dude...
share ur result here after u upgrade...
cheers