Dynos in M'sia

[pop6335]

is ipoh or pg have dyno tuning ?

 

[Joeker]

If not mistaken each dynos runs only different systems.

I've heard several jargons about dynos using "water brake", "retarder", "DOS based system", etc but the person who gave me those information did'nt know much about dynos neither.

And then some claims that their dynos are more accurate than the other.

And some dyno models need to input ambient parameters manually while some were dialled in by default.

I think it hi time we educate ourselves before strapping down our cars for dyno again.

Yes, Millenium using Dyno Dynamic. It was previously from Quartermile. Heard a rumour Millenium dynoed a 1,000 whp Skyline :shocked:

That means Speedworks using Dynamic DTS or is it?

anybody dynoed their car in Speedworks before? Can confirm whether its Dynamic DTS or Dyno Dynamic?

 

[llsaw]

Still waiting for Penang's 1st dyno..

 

[V-Spec]

So in the sifu's opinion which dyno in the Klang Valley is the most up todate, well maintained, accurate & parameter correctly setup for a dyno run?:regular_smile:

 

[Joeker]

At the present moment, Amoil's Dynojet dyno is the latest version and using most up to date software.

 

[Speed Demon]

Heard a rumour Millenium dynoed a 1,000 whp Skyline :shocked:

Yes, its a fact. I've seen the car and the chart. The chart is laminated & displayed for all to see at Millenium. From what I've read in the articles I think most dynos here use the same method, which is the load is generated by the drum, which is rotated by the wheels of the car.

I think dynos with a more wide open space should provide a more accurate reading as on the road the car is not enclosed by walls. Ambient temperature I guess remains about the same. Again this would be affected by the space around the dyno.

So I think what is most important is calibration. Calibration of the load to the amount of hp required to move it. This will then provide the most accurate reading.

 

[Joeker]

From what I've read in the articles I think most dynos here use the same method, which is the load is generated by the drum, which is rotated by the wheels of the car.

So I think what is most important is calibration. Calibration of the load to the amount of hp required to move it. This will then provide the most accurate reading.

I think you might have underestimated the differences between each dyno company. Apparently, every dyno looks similar and one might assume it works similarly as well.

But in actual fact, THEY DON'T.

I only have vague infoormation at this point in time that some dynoe uses water brakes and heat soaks easily thus causing the dyno to generate inaccurate horsepower reading.

And there are rumors of unscrupulous tuners messing with the parameters to generate illogical horsepower readings.

ANyway, I'll try to gather more datas.

 

[KCNKEN]

how to understand the dyno picture?
red n blue has wat diffrent?

 

[Joeker]

Did some talking to people dealing in dynos and was kindly given information pertaining to the different dynos that are in M'sia.

Apparently, Dynos really do work differently, have different methods of registering hp and its pro & cons.

The info that I have are 2nd hand thus it might not be as accurate as I hope it to be.

If there are mis-info, pls chip in.

Dyno Dynamic & Dynamic DTS
Retarder system
Measures in kilowatts
DOS operating system
Parameters (Air temp, Air pres. & Humidity) are input manually.
Stability of power supply affects dyno reading. Isolated substation is required.

Dynojets
Inertia system
Measures in ps
WINpep operating system
Parameters are input by default
Dynoing in different time of day affects dyno reading

Dastek
Water brake system
Measure in kilowatts
DOS operating system
Parameters are input manually.
Dyno reading is affected by heat soak of the water brakes.

Again, here are the list of dynos in Malaysia.

Klang Valley
N1, Sunway - Dynojet 4wd
GT AUto, Sunway - Dynojet 4wd
Millenium, SUnway - Dyno Dynamic
Amoil, Sunway - Dynotjet 4wd 2006 v.
Links, Sunway - HPI
Speedworks, PJ - Dynamic DTS
RS, Puchong - Dastek
D Tuning, Sri Damansara - Dynojet 4wd
Redsun, Pandan Indah - Dynojet 2wd

Nilai
Aerotech - Dynojet 4wd

Johor
Speedwork - Dynamic DTS
Viswork - Dastek

 

[V-Spec]

So is Amoil the better place dyno?

 

[V-Spec]

I wanna get my car a base dyno. So where is the BEST place I should go to? The cost?

 

[mrbear]

try RS Impressive Motorworks @ Puchong..

Good tuner and experience .. pls refer to Robin
more engine tuner n etc etc ..pls refer to Turbo Lim


199.4 Torque (Nm) / 147.49 lb/ft , 158 kW / 211.88 BHP at 7000 RPM, VTEC at 4800 RPM @ 190.3 WHP

"Remember cars are for driving not racing - too many people go too far tuning up their cars to race spec and make them unusable on the roads" -mr bear-

 

[V8_nutter]

Best in like what ?? best conman dynos, best price, best smiley face, best retards dyno operators ??

 

[Joeker]

So is Amoil the better place dyno?

In equipment wise, Amoil's dyno is latest version.

 

[Joeker]

Best in like what ?? best conman dynos, best price, best smiley face, best retards dyno operators ??

Which shop are you refering too?

 

[Joeker]

"Remember cars are for driving not racing - too many people go too far tuning up their cars to race spec and make them unusable on the roads" -mr bear-

Very true quote. I have a fren with 500++whp.

But its a nitemare to drive in City traffic especially traffic jam. THe boost is too lag, the torque is too hi, the clutch is too hard, the suspension too stiff.

But the problem is we human being are never satisfied. When we have 100hp, we wan 150hp. When we have 150, we wan 200hp. When we have 200hp, we wan 300hp, etc, etc, etc.

 

[V-Spec]

Mr. Bear, where exactly is this RS Impressive Motorworks? Have not heard of the shop. I'm just looking to do a base run and maybe some other runs in the future when I have upgraded parts. No tuning whatsoever.

Joeker, so Amoil is the best bet eh? Convenient for me too as Sunway is quite near from my workplace. I feel weird going there tho coz all I ever see are Hondas in their shop. :shocked: :regular_smile:

 

[mugen9]

from my experienced,

for vtec/vtec turbo,go to Amoil...vast experienced in vtec application ..I've dynoed
my B16a after overhauled and port polished...155whp....change new oil and make sure your clutch plate is still good...13 run for rm150...what do u thing?...

for mitsu turbo engine,go to GT Auto Sunway....find Toby....really impressed on
their E3 in Sepang Drag...

heard a lot of 'things' about Speedwork....don't know why but some good tuners in Pandan Indah dyno their machine there....maybe it is near...

most people forget about their engine especially the piston and piston ring condition...in dyno normally their gonna whack your engine from 6k - 8k rpm...

what do u think? don blame them after dyno your engine will 'eat' oil...
safety precaution....

 

[ixeo]

good job. 1 question, is the speedworks dyno a Dyno Dynamics machine, or a Dynamics DTS? google on DTS net no results..

inertia dynos can only function at WOT. so if you're doing fuel mapping for the entire range.. it's not the correct tool to use... as WOT would also trigger the acceleration map.. if your car is on the track..it'll be at WOT anyway..but for a street car its a different story.

in addition.. Dynojet assumes every car has the same rotating mass..which is definately not the case! assuming 2 cars with 150hp, one weights 1.5ton and another 2ton..on an inertia dyno..both cars would accelerate at the same rate.. which is not the case in the real world.

its not a case of which type is better, rather its a question of which type do you need. inertia dyno measures power the "road" will see. modifications by using a lightened flywheel, crankshaft etc. would not be reflected on a steady state dyno (load dyno). reason being, the engine is not producing more power, but there's simply more power available to accelerate as less power is required to accelerate the flywheel and crankshafts etc.

i'm personally looking forward to have my car tuned for street use..after doing some mods that is.. around the 2k-3k rpm range for city driving.

 

[V-Spec]

Anyone know the charges in the below establishment for a dyno run (just to obtain bhp, Nm, Air fuel ratio - NO tuning of any electronics)

1) Speedworks
2) Links
3) Amoil
4) GT Auto