What Makes a Good (Bad) Driver?

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I'm sure you know a friend that admits openly that he is a very talented, amazing driver, the kind of guy that says "i can smoke you anytime using any car, brah", and you think to yourself well I drive kinda good too. What makes you think you're the better driver?

I know these thoughts and sayings are purely egoistical, but what do you think makes a good driver?
 

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Very subjective. Doing a lap time? Avoiding an accident? Shifting properly? Maneuver without much bodyshift for comfort...
Hmmm...
any car? what if you are driving a ferrari & he is driving a kancil?
...i dont know. I've been watching a lot of videos on evo 9s racing on gohtong and i wonder whether these are the type of good drivers. I mean is it a skill if you can drive 180kmh zigzagging on a busy road or is it a skill to be the fastest down a hill?

What justifies a person when they say that they are a good driver? I guess it all goes down to doing a lap time eh to find out who's the best out of the best, no?

**I always think of Jeremy Clarkson's quote whenever someone says that he's a good driver; "Driving is like sex, everyone thinks they're good at it."**
 

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I'm sure you know a friend that admits openly that he is a very talented, amazing driver, the kind of guy that says "i can smoke you anytime using any car, brah", and you think to yourself well I drive kinda good too. What makes you think you're the better driver?

I know these thoughts and sayings are purely egoistical, but what do you think makes a good driver?
Guess Danz answered your questions haha!
Zigzagging in busy road or speeding up goh tong aint skilled or good driver to me. By putting others in danger, they are actually called Idiot/Arsehole drivers.

Just go to those TimeAttack or real race on track and prove it among the other great drivers la. Race within the streets with young punks that have almost no experience on track. Win also get nothing. More like Racing with an amateur or a retard only. Makes himself another idiot driver as well.
 

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just join ZTH TTA, if u make it to the top 3 then u are a good/skilled driver.
yes and no

making into top 3 does prove that you may have the best skill but it also down to how much you spend in your car, personal vs. workshop cars. Not everyone have as much funding as workshop cars, so you can be the best skill driver out there but without funding you are not going to be top 3 in TTA most likely (check out all the top 3 results in TTA in any category)

having said that, drive safe everyone :)
 

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Number 1 in track or fastest timeattack lap is not a good driver for me. That is a good skill driver in the track.

As a good driver in public road, giving a proper signal when turning, did not tailgate any one, patience in road, never cut queue during traffic jam or jam on the traffic light area and gentleman enough and let other users come out from junction. i pretty respect this kind of driver and thumb up for them. Anyway, i'm practicing this and hope other road users will practice the same way. Malaysia will have a better road harmony.
 

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Number 1 in track or fastest timeattack lap is not a good driver for me. That is a good skill driver in the track.

As a good driver in public road, giving a proper signal when turning, did not tailgate any one, patience in road, never cut queue during traffic jam or jam on the traffic light area and gentleman enough and let other users come out from junction. i pretty respect this kind of driver and thumb up for them. Anyway, i'm practicing this and hope other road users will practice the same way. Malaysia will have a better road harmony.
Yup. That's makes a good driver for public roads. I'm practicing that as well. Trying to be nice to others on the road makes me feel better than trying to be an ass.

Unless a person who wish to cuts into my lane without signal, then sorry. I will not let u pass.
Especially queue cutters as well.
 

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The better driver in Gran Turismo 6 in identical cars is the better driver.
 

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The better driver in Gran Turismo 6 in identical cars is the better driver.
Same like Racing Rivals Drag Races. Race same car, same spec, whoever won is the better driver? haha!
 

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...i dont know. I've been watching a lot of videos on evo 9s racing on gohtong and i wonder whether these are the type of good drivers. I mean is it a skill if you can drive 180kmh zigzagging on a busy road or is it a skill to be the fastest down a hill?

What justifies a person when they say that they are a good driver? I guess it all goes down to doing a lap time eh to find out who's the best out of the best, no?

**I always think of Jeremy Clarkson's quote whenever someone says that he's a good driver; "Driving is like sex, everyone thinks they're good at it."**
Those are balls only. Maybe good but endangering lives so they are dumb.
That is true. But have to rmbr the Chinese saying "Theres always one mountain that is higher than another mountain" WTF translation ahahhahaha.
 

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YS Khong. He's a damn good driver off the track and on the track.

Ian Khong and Ivan Khong all are awesome drivers. Dunno about off track though.
 

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Number 1 in track or fastest timeattack lap is not a good driver for me. That is a good skill driver in the track.

As a good driver in public road, giving a proper signal when turning, did not tailgate any one, patience in road, never cut queue during traffic jam or jam on the traffic light area and gentleman enough and let other users come out from junction. i pretty respect this kind of driver and thumb up for them. Anyway, i'm practicing this and hope other road users will practice the same way. Malaysia will have a better road harmony.

Guess Danz answered your questions haha!
Zigzagging in busy road or speeding up goh tong aint skilled or good driver to me. By putting others in danger, they are actually called Idiot/Arsehole drivers.
Just go to those TimeAttack or real race on track and prove it among the other great drivers la. Race within the streets with young punks that have almost no experience on track. Win also get nothing. More like Racing with an amateur or a retard only. Makes himself another idiot driver as well.
Those are balls only. Maybe good but endangering lives so they are dumb.
That is true. But have to rmbr the Chinese saying "Theres always one mountain that is higher than another mountain" WTF translation ahahhahaha.
There's one video of an evo 9 almost crashing into a taxi when he lost control of his car on Gohtong. nearly hit the divider also. very scary

I used to be the typical douche bag young punk just-got-his-driver's-license driver, but then I realized i'm just endangering so many people on the road, trying to prove that guy tailgating behind me that i'm the better driver. It's just not worth it, i completely agree with you guys. I practice the proper etiquette now too, unless when the highway is empty. Nothing better than an empty highway :biggrin:

yes and no

making into top 3 does prove that you may have the best skill but it also down to how much you spend in your car, personal vs. workshop cars. Not everyone have as much funding as workshop cars, so you can be the best skill driver out there but without funding you are not going to be top 3 in TTA most likely (check out all the top 3 results in TTA in any category)

having said that, drive safe everyone :)
that's what i thought too. Imagine if Lewis Hamilton goes up against Sebastien Loeb, where everything is balanced, and to win is purely based on skills. That would be an interesting watch. :driver:
 

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YS Khong. He's a damn good driver off the track and on the track.

Ian Khong and Ivan Khong all are awesome drivers. Dunno about off track though.
YS is ex race and rally driver. Both sons also have track experience.....:biggrin:
 

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YS Khong. He's a damn good driver off the track and on the track.

Ian Khong and Ivan Khong all are awesome drivers. Dunno about off track though.
There is a story i heard from Ian Khong himself haha! That one day cant remember which road, there was a roadblock up ahead, and then Brothers and YS Khong (shud be the dad I think). One of them started drifting down the corners, then the other 2 follow suit as well. Then right in front got roadblock and was stopped by the police but cant remember what he said about the police asking them. But the cops let them go. :rofl:

but was late at night no cars.

There's one video of an evo 9 almost crashing into a taxi when he lost control of his car on Gohtong. nearly hit the divider also. very scary

I used to be the typical douche bag young punk just-got-his-driver's-license driver, but then I realized i'm just endangering so many people on the road, trying to prove that guy tailgating behind me that i'm the better driver. It's just not worth it, i completely agree with you guys. I practice the proper etiquette now too, unless when the highway is empty. Nothing better than an empty highway :biggrin:

that's what i thought too. Imagine if Lewis Hamilton goes up against Sebastien Loeb, where everything is balanced, and to win is purely based on skills. That would be an interesting watch. :driver:
Ya empty highway, as long not endangering anyone, having a bit of fun is fine actually haha!
 

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There is a story i heard from Ian Khong himself haha! That one day cant remember which road, there was a roadblock up ahead, and then Brothers and YS Khong (shud be the dad I think). One of them started drifting down the corners, then the other 2 follow suit as well. Then right in front got roadblock and was stopped by the police but cant remember what he said about the police asking them. But the cops let them go. :rofl:

but was late at night no cars.
You know Ian Khong also?
I was stopped for doing 106kph in 90 zone, but Police ask me rev my car for him to hear then let me go?:hmmmm::hmmmm::biggrin:
 

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You know Ian Khong also?
I was stopped for doing 106kph in 90 zone, but Police ask me rev my car for him to hear then let me go?:hmmmm::hmmmm::biggrin:
No one has better experience than TitanRev, police stopped him then ask him to give him a ride in his CT200h. haha! Say is a nice car haha!

I know him, he dunno me, got to hear the story from him when collecting my prize from him with another chap.
 

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just join ZTH TTA, if u make it to the top 3 then u are a good/skilled driver.
i remember the few years back in trackday autoshow forgot what event..got one stock standard factory spec all round (including tyre) Proton Persona setting fast laptime and leaving many lancer gt/hatcback 2.4 in the dust :driver:
 

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I believe it's 50/50 thing towards the driver's skill, experience and how fast he can react or change his driving to the situation and also how well the car is setup. You have good drivers and support staffs. Just like in F1 or NASCAR, SuperGT...all the drivers have their own set of tricks couple that with good support strategy from the pit crew.

Just my 2 cents
 

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wow... all sifu talking track business dy :adore:

for me, put away the track business, a good driver is very simple, use your signals when changing lanes, go into junction or out of junction and etc, dont do idiot double park but if you have to pls leave contact to ask u back to move ur car away,give way to other people while you can do it and they need it, dont slow or jammed other people on the road while looking for 4D number when people accident, speed reasonably,not too fast to go heaven too soon and not too slow to make people late to go work, dont hug the right lanes, and dont drive like you are playing midnight wangan.. these simple things are needed to become a good driver on the road.... if some people said they drive sport cars must drive like a racer, then they for me is really just a bunch of brainless idiots... :stupid:
 

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A good driver for me is the one who can drive smoothly. If he drive a manual car, he dont make his passenger head banging everytime he upshift and downshift. He know how to match the rev to minimise the jerking as much as possible. Turn wheel smoothly. Like in initial D, as if u put a cup of water inside the car, the spill is minimise. He give a good gap with front car. So he can see the surrounding (in front) better. The most stupid driver is those who like to cucuk his front car. And fill his visibility with the front car rear end. This kind of good driver will make his passenger very confident with him even if he drive fast. They can even sleep and only wake when u arrive ur destination even on long journey. The key is, fast but smooth.
 

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No one has better experience than TitanRev, police stopped him then ask him to give him a ride in his CT200h. haha! Say is a nice car haha!

I know him, he dunno me, got to hear the story from him when collecting my prize from him with another chap.
so that means more reason to get the perfect car huh :driver: :proud: :hmmmm: :adore:
 

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rear still silverstone if not mistaken :listen:

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A good driver for me is the one who can drive smoothly. If he drive a manual car, he dont make his passenger head banging everytime he upshift and downshift. He know how to match the rev to minimise the jerking as much as possible. Turn wheel smoothly. Like in initial D, as if u put a cup of water inside the car, the spill is minimise. He give a good gap with front car. So he can see the surrounding (in front) better. The most stupid driver is those who like to cucuk his front car. And fill his visibility with the front car rear end. This kind of good driver will make his passenger very confident with him even if he drive fast. They can even sleep and only wake when u arrive ur destination even on long journey. The key is, fast but smooth.
got one girl....and latest is my little brother...

while i'm driving manual...they ask...this car auto issit? :rofl:
 

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so that means more reason to get the perfect car huh :driver: :proud: :hmmmm: :adore:
Depends on u. If u like to show off your car, then getting the perfect car would be your choice.
If you just need a car to drive then, any car that fits your requirement will do.
 

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so that means more reason to get the perfect car huh :driver: :proud: :hmmmm: :adore:
You won't be able to afford the "perfect" car la. No offense. My perfect car costs 15mil to drive on the road. You should just look for a car you will enjoy to drive, regardless of quirks or weird characteristics, you'll like the car whether or not it has problems. If you buy a point A to point B car, you'll be a road bully because you'll just want to get it over with (driving).
 

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You won't be able to afford the "perfect" car la. No offense. My perfect car costs 15mil to drive on the road. You should just look for a car you will enjoy to drive, regardless of quirks or weird characteristics, you'll like the car whether or not it has problems. If you buy a point A to point B car, you'll be a road bully because you'll just want to get it over with (driving).
No matter how hard I try, my kancil failed to be road bully :frown: