Proton 4G13/4G15....Satria/Wira/Saga

[khguan]

my car still using drop in filter niah.. heheh :slug:

Bump: my car still using drop in filter niah.. heheh :slug:

 

[afmarsyal]

tps retard should be turn left (CCW)...

unker when wanna bring me go flash??...

i think retard is anticlockwise..because when i go clockwise to the maximum the throttle body butterfly valve also start to open..no need to piggy2back.. :)

Bump:

if tps retard, distributor advance or retard??

when i turn tps retard, car is just like jerking most of the time, an increase in torque i think, so i retard the distributor..because when distributor retard, it brings down the torque..

 

[SkYwAlKeR]

i think retard is anticlockwise..because when i go clockwise to the maximum the throttle body butterfly valve also start to open..no need to piggy2back.. :)

Bump:

when i turn tps retard, car is just like jerking most of the time, an increase in torque i think, so i retard the distributor..because when distributor retard, it brings down the torque..

yea... anticlockwise same as counter clockwise (CCW)....

 

[ruckboyz_85]

Need advice

Hi guys,

I'm newbie here...Need an advices from otai-otai here...which cam is better powerzone, maddspeed, piper or other brands?...which flywheel suitable for 4G13/4G15, flywheel 8", flywheel 8.5" or other sizes?..If i want to skim the flywheel, how much weight should i remove?...:hmmmm:

Bump: Hi guys,

I'm newbie here...Need an advices from otai-otai here...which cam is better powerzone, maddspeed, piper or other brands?...which flywheel suitable for 4G13/4G15, flywheel 8", flywheel 8.5" or other sizes?..If i want to skim the flywheel, how much weight should i remove?...:hmmmm:

 

[biz-da-tech]

for me if u on 4g13p just get semi racing clutch 1,5 CC kit can d. if u on 1,5 den upgrade 1.6 CC with the super touring flywheel

Bump: for me if u on 4g13p just get semi racing clutch 1,5 CC kit can d. if u on 1,5 den upgrade 1.6 CC with the super touring flywheel

 

[tofu_manic]

how much is ur budget for the cam?

if 1k++ then go for matspeed/powerzone, if lesser than 1k, pipercam....ive used pipercam, power increase is linear, pulls more to redline compared to stock but feeling is a bit flat....now using matspeed cam, more of a kick from mid to top end, powerzone, donno hehe never used

Bump: how much is ur budget for the cam?

if 1k++ then go for matspeed/powerzone, if lesser than 1k, pipercam....ive used pipercam, power increase is linear, pulls more to redline compared to stock but feeling is a bit flat....now using matspeed cam, more of a kick from mid to top end, powerzone, donno hehe never used

 

[afmarsyal]

i've been planning to install a hi-cam as well..but some people say when install hi-cam, low rpm range will sucks..my cam now is standard, and the power kicks in somewhere at 2500rpm..if i install hi-cam will the power kicks in later, let's say 3500rpm? and if i install hi-cam, will i need to step harder on the accelerator in order to reach the 'power kicks in' rpm range or just step like i usually do but the engine will rev itself to the 'power kicks in' rpm range? need to clarify this..i don't want my car to be a stressful ride when driving in the city..it is where i dwell most of my motoring life..

 

[khguan]

it depends on how u tune the cam timing.

a long duration cam (or what u ppl refer as high cam) widens the powerband and we use the adjustable cam gear to shift the power band for better driveability.

yes.. the low end torque will suffer a bit.. especially u will feel your car a bit slower to move from stationery.. especially on a slope. If u get the cam timing right.. it wont affect daily driving much.

 

[labulabi]

matspeed..yummy yummy. kan tofu

afmarshall, when u say hi-cam, how hi? if 275 deg below(i still consider this as a mild cam), then dont need to worry about idling and driveability for normal road use. Hi-cam (292,304, etc) will produce hectic idling, no a/c etc = not really suitable for street use anymore. but what u'll get in return is a leap in hp and power at hi rev but sucks big time in lower rpm.

when will the power kicks in, well, that's when the ACP and a good tuner comes into play.

 

[ettm_14]

yeah, guan yesterday I went and change my engine mounting, remember I said when I go through uneven roads, there is this sound like mouse in front(chik, chik, chik) it dissapeared for awhile, like one whole day.

today i drove my car, the sound came back?any ideas?not the suspension I quite sure about it...

haiz, super sien with the sound...

Bump: yeah, guan yesterday I went and change my engine mounting, remember I said when I go through uneven roads, there is this sound like mouse in front(chik, chik, chik) it dissapeared for awhile, like one whole day.

today i drove my car, the sound came back?any ideas?not the suspension I quite sure about it...

haiz, super sien with the sound...

Bump: yeah, guan yesterday I went and change my engine mounting, remember I said when I go through uneven roads, there is this sound like mouse in front(chik, chik, chik) it dissapeared for awhile, like one whole day.

today i drove my car, the sound came back?any ideas?not the suspension I quite sure about it...

haiz, super sien with the sound...

 

[khguan]

need to check then only know...

come over to my shop when u free la...

Bump: need to check then only know...

come over to my shop when u free la...

 

[ruckboyz_85]

Thanks guys for sharing the info..for the budget, use only for city driving.so i will choose to piper camshaft.its more cheap.but how about its durability?...need more info about skimming the flywheel..im using 4G13 vdo..thanks guys

Bump: Thanks guys for sharing the info..for the budget, use only for city driving.so i will choose to piper camshaft.its more cheap.but how about its durability?...need more info about skimming the flywheel..im using 4G13 vdo..thanks guys

 

[Shinjite]

Its been a long time since I last come here~~

Guan, hows ur fren's 4G15 SVDO engine? Dynoed adi? :)

 

[fstr]

shinjite is 9 series taikor, cum here wanna get whack ahh??

jk jk

www.4g1series.cjb.net

 

[Shinjite]

WAAAAHHH....I sensed hostility here :P
*gets ready sheild*

*waves white flag* SAMA GANG, PROTON JUGAK!!!

 

[tofu_manic]

Thanks guys for sharing the info..for the budget, use only for city driving.so i will choose to piper camshaft.its more cheap.but how about its durability?...need more info about skimming the flywheel..im using 4G13 vdo..thanks guys

Bump: Thanks guys for sharing the info..for the budget, use only for city driving.so i will choose to piper camshaft.its more cheap.but how about its durability?...need more info about skimming the flywheel..im using 4G13 vdo..thanks guys

with the matspeed cam, u wont have problems in traffic, or any regular driving

pipercam is about 1/2 the price of a matspeed cam...if i were u i wud wait a little while longer to save up the other 50% for the matspeed cam, no regrets, no rush ma hehe

 

[afmarsyal]

thanx for the info..now i think need to find a car with already install pipercam to test drive..then only can decide..

 

[ettm_14]

pipercams are actually quite mild, installed in mine...so far no problem,

surprisingly the fuel consumption remains the same

Bump: pipercams are actually quite mild, installed in mine...so far no problem,

surprisingly the fuel consumption remains the same

 

[AD_EG]

Pipercam i saw some1 selling at the marketplace for rm5xx i think...not bad price if u ask me.

 

[Shinjite]

I never get to test a pipercam but since its linear kinda feeling, somehow I knew already

Me using matspeed cams....

 

[ettm_14]

hehe..linear or not have to try first la...i think it will better if its manual, but mine auto so the power really linear...but top speed is easier to achieve

RM500++ AZ racing selling, got it from him, good deal

 

[AD_EG]

Heres the link bro.

He is a recomended seller..

//www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...mance/263709-new-pipercams-for-4g13-15-a.html

 

[tofu_manic]

dont only test drive a pipercam-equipped car la...test also a matspeed-ed car la then u can compare

set a target, do it once, do it right, rm5xx also not easy to come by mah hehe

labulabi is korekt hehe

shinjite, how did u noe before using? haha curious

 

[biz-da-tech]

pipercam i think i can get 520Rm plus postage mayb rm 540 here.. if need help ring me~ haha~

im using pipercam . kick in mid to high. and never try other cam so i cant compare.

 

[ruckboyz_85]

thanks guy..u r kinda friendly sharing..peoples said sharing is caring..hahaha.....now im already got headache because need to choose which one more suitable, worth to money and not bad for performance also..:hmmmm:....

 

[afmarsyal]

got one performance shop in kuantan, CBS..the tow key recommend pipercam..he said power much better than matspeed..

 

[josephlauby]

To all 4G13 crab engine owners. I'm currently clocking an average 350km(s) for 27.7 + liters of petrol. FC high?. Details as listed below :

Car model : Proton Iswara 1.3 Crab
Year make : 2000
Engine condition : Stock
Wheel : Stock 14" (Front : Sime Tyre / Back : Dunlop)
Petrol : Shell (Green)
Driving condition : City + 10% jam

Bump: To all 4G13 crab engine owners. I'm currently clocking an average 350km(s) for 27.7 + liters of petrol. FC high?. Details as listed below :

Car model : Proton Iswara 1.3 Crab
Year make : 2000
Engine condition : Stock
Wheel : Stock 14" (Front : Sime Tyre / Back : Dunlop)
Petrol : Shell (Green)
Driving condition : City + 10% jam

Bump: *Revised. Standard 13" rims

Bump: *Revised. Standard 13" rims

 

[tofu_manic]

got one performance shop in kuantan, CBS..the tow key recommend pipercam..he said power much better than matspeed..

this towkay must be selling piper cams

if u have rm5xx and must have a racing cam, then piper cam is the only way to go, since no others available at such a price

i have used both, got nothing to earn from giving testimonial, up to u fellas to decide who is giving BS

daily driveability, fc, hillclimb, downhill, sideways, upside down, no problems with both cams

where it differs is mid to top rpm and price

the matspeed cam has noticeably wider cam lobes even though both is of 272 degree duration, sky has measured it or something, and it is not to spec

bah i sound like a broken recorder hehehe

 

[ettm_14]

yah...i think pipercams should be in the region of 268 only lar...not accurate, not 272 ler

Bump: josephlauby: that would be 12.6+ per liter, should be alright

currently my iswara 1.5(carb)(m) clocking at about 12.75/liter all the way puchong jam to Kelana Jaya(6 days a week)

my wira 1.5 $EFI(A) can only do 11.3km/liter,

Bump: josephlauby: that would be 12.6+ per liter, should be alright

currently my iswara 1.5(carb)(m) clocking at about 12.75/liter all the way puchong jam to Kelana Jaya(6 days a week)

my wira 1.5 $EFI(A) can only do 11.3km/liter,

 

[tofu_manic]

dont get me wrong ah....pipercams is pretty bang for the buck, just as matspeed is

just depends on ur goal