Need some info about brake pads

[Gongchia]

i am driving New Toyota Vios NCP93. i had changed my Disc Rotors before for performance purpose. i thought the ori brake hose and brake fluid will handle my brake good but i am wrong. so, i plan to change my brake hose, brakes pad and using dot.5 brake fluid. but seem like this Performance Rotors reduce the brakes pad life quite a lot because of performance purpose. So, can you guys give me some Info, currently i am using advics brake pads. i plan to try the EBC GreenStuff Brake Pad from UK next time but this brake pad is slightly expensive (because of my rotors will reduce the brake pad life). i have heard something about bendix metal king. some people ask me to try it. but i don't no whether bandix is good or? or what else brand is good for performance (Street Used) Not in track.

Thanks for your advice

 

[mADmAN]

first... use dot5.1 fluid... not dot5... dot 5.1 is a better fluid

brake pads... bendix metal king is good... but it will eat ur rotor... would recommend rapid stop brake pads for a start: rapidstopbrakepads.com theres a pricelist so u can refer.

steel braided brake hose oso a good thing.

 

[Gongchia]

Hi, Thanks for your info. opps sorry, usually i just mentioned dot.3, 4, or 5 than the workshop workers will understand..xD. Okay, how about EBC Brake Pads?? is RapidBrake good enough for performance??

 

[mADmAN]

rapidstop 550c is good enough for street use... useless in track... the 800c supposed to be pretty good in track... i using the 550c and its pretty decent for street.

EBC i never used before... and ive only heard about yellow stuff and that oso in regards to track use.

 

[Izso]

Careful.

DOT5 is not compatible with our DOT3/4/5.1 brake oil. They are very different and DOT5 will hurt your brake system if you use it on a car that's not meant to use it. Use DOT5.1 and 5.1 only if you want high temp good stuff brake oil. Usually can get from Ferodo, EBC, and all those big names.

I personally like Ferodo zero and Improve platinum. Bendix Titanium Metal King is awesome too but aisay.. damn a lot of dust and noise.

Btw, I'm curious to know how you determined the standard brake hose and pads was not enough for you? Also, do you know whats the difference between a steel braided hose and a normal rubber hose and why people change them?

If you have shitloads of money that you just want to spend on your car - great! Go ahead.

If you don't, then I hope you try to learn a bit about what you plan on blowing your money on and not blindly do it just because someone said it's good.

 

[nyantong]

first... use dot5.1 fluid... not dot5... dot 5.1 is a better fluid

brake pads... bendix metal king is good... but it will eat ur rotor... would recommend rapid stop brake pads for a start: rapidstopbrakepads.com theres a pricelist so u can refer.

steel braided brake hose oso a good thing.

DOT 5.1 is not a better fluid than DOT 5. DOT 5.1 is basically an upgraded DOT 4 brake fluid. So its still safe to use on vehicles with DOT 4 requirements. DOT 5 cannot be used on DOT 4 brake systems

 

[Gongchia]

Thanks for the Info...

 

[Unsacred8002]

What i done on my car is:

1. Flush all the old DOT3 and replace it with DOT4.
2. Change to steel braided brake hose.
3. Change the pads to Dons brakepad.

Rest is still stock. EG9 brake servo, EG9 rotor and caliper.

 

[stupidcar]

How much is Ferrodo Zero selling now?
I can't get the hang of it.
Many many good reviews about it on the net for Persona/Gen2.

 

[vr2turbo]

DOT 5.1 is not a better fluid than DOT 5. DOT 5.1 is basically an upgraded DOT 4 brake fluid. So its still safe to use on vehicles with DOT 4 requirements. DOT 5 cannot be used on DOT 4 brake systems

Dot 5 brake fluid is silicone base fluid that is why not compatible with Dot 3, 4 and 5.1 which are polyethylene glycol based fluid.
To use Dot 5, seems will damaged the rubber seals etc.

Better in what sense? If higher boiling point then yes, Dot 5.1 have 10 degree Celsius higher boiling point over then Dot 5 brake fluid.

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I have used Bendix Metal King Plus, Metal King Gold and Metal King Titanium before, and now on Trestor Blue Advantage.
Well, the Trestor is so much better from initial bite from cold to hot. Only the dust is twice as much, but then something got to give for better performance....

 

[Saring]

anyone has experience for using DON brake pad before this ? plan to change to DON brake pad.

 

[Izso]

Trestor Blue Advantage for the win! Cheap, cheerful, readily available and hardly any braking issues with this pad. Not for competitive use though.

 

[y2188]

Spare part shop can get this trestor?

 

[vr2turbo]

Trestor Blue Advantage for the win! Cheap, cheerful, readily available and hardly any braking issues with this pad. Not for competitive use though.

Izso also kena poisoned by me already......hhahahhahahhaha

But it is good, so far most of the gang using also no issues except bro. SC go and buy wrong model.....lol

 

[vr2turbo]

Spare part shop can get this trestor?

Can get from PH Auto, SEA Park

 

[6UE5t]

Trestor is the same as Bendix. If cannot find Trestor Blue Advantage, then get Bendix Metal King Titanium.

 

[vr2turbo]

Trestor is the same as Bendix. If cannot find Trestor Blue Advantage, then get Bendix Metal King Titanium.

No, is not same. Even though same manufacturer in Malaysia, they are different. Bendix Metal King I think same as Trestor Metallic Plus only and Bendix General CT is Trestor Deluxe Organic.

Trestor Advantage pads is slightly higher than the metallic pads. I have used Bendix from Metal King Plus to Gold and then to Titanium then switch to Advantage pads. They bite from cold, and have better friction. Overall braking is so much better....

 

[6UE5t]

No, is not same. Even though same manufacturer in Malaysia, they are different. Bendix Metal King I think same as Trestor Metallic Plus only and Bendix General CT is Trestor Deluxe Organic.

Trestor Advantage pads is slightly higher than the metallic pads. I have used Bendix from Metal King Plus to Gold and then to Titanium then switch to Advantage pads. They bite from cold, and have better friction. Overall braking is so much better....

Ic, then maybe the blue advantage is similar type like the Bendix Ultimate?

 

[vr2turbo]

Ic, then maybe the blue advantage is similar type like the Bendix Ultimate?

Maybe not that high as Ultimate ones some say can use for track.

 

[6UE5t]

Btw any of you guys tried Hawk and Remsa?

 

[y2188]

Can get from PH Auto, SEA Park

Is the price about the same with metal king titanium?

 

[vr2turbo]

Is the price about the same with metal king titanium?

Yup, but cold bite is so much better.......

 

[Izso]

Is the price about the same with metal king titanium?

Blue advantage is cheaper. And Metal King is rubbish. Needs warmup to bite. I have used it before and it's dangerous when cold. No brakes AT ALL

 

[vr2turbo]

Blue advantage is cheaper. And Metal King is rubbish. Needs warmup to bite. I have used it before and it's dangerous when cold. No brakes AT ALL

If not mistaken, you were the first person I poison with Trestor Blue then later you poison the rest of the gang except bro. SF go buy different model......hhahhahahaha

And was it cheaper, because that day when I bought for you, PH boss purposely off another RM5 or 10 to make the sale since you bought front and rear together.....

 

[y2188]

Yup, but cold bite is so much better.......

Blue advantage is cheaper. And Metal King is rubbish. Needs warmup to bite. I have used it before and it's dangerous when cold. No brakes AT ALL

I'm currently using metal king, it really needs some heat to get it working well from cold i still can stop the car pretty easily most probably due to my car is quite light....Really keen to try this trestor blue advantage on the next change

 

[vr2turbo]

I'm currently using metal king, it really needs some heat to get it working well from cold i still can stop the car pretty easily most probably due to my car is quite light....Really keen to try this trestor blue advantage on the next change

No need next change leh! Pads are not that expensive and you will love the initial bite and as well as the friction feel, meaning when you brake don't require more pressure than what you require for Bendix metal king.
Bro. Izso change over from his Bendix even though Bendix still new....hhahhaha

 

[Izso]

No need next change leh! Pads are not that expensive and you will love the initial bite and as well as the friction feel, meaning when you brake don't require more pressure than what you require for Bendix metal king.
Bro. Izso change over from his Bendix even though Bendix still new....hhahhaha

Freaking idiotic Metal King couldn't stop my wira on a 30% downhill slope and I ended up rear ending a Hilux. He barely even felt the knudge and I was standing on the pedal already. My hood kemek and his hilux barely even moved.

That was the day I threw away the damn Metal kings and swapped to blue advantage.

 

[KenDiriwan]

Bendix General is bullshit as well, couldn't provide stopping power plus ate/burnt my rotor like hell.

I could vouch for Trestor blue advantage the bite is real good. Only drawback is it is powderful.

 

[Shinjite]

So far I have only used Rapid Stop 550c and 800c pads. The 550c definitely not for competition/track use.

 

[y2188]

No need next change leh! Pads are not that expensive and you will love the initial bite and as well as the friction feel, meaning when you brake don't require more pressure than what you require for Bendix metal king.
Bro. Izso change over from his Bendix even though Bendix still new....hhahhaha

My current metal king few months old only leh so far so good for me hahaha

Freaking idiotic Metal King couldn't stop my wira on a 30% downhill slope and I ended up rear ending a Hilux. He barely even felt the knudge and I was standing on the pedal already. My hood kemek and his hilux barely even moved.
That was the day I threw away the damn Metal kings and swapped to blue advantage.

Really that bad? is the rotor stock 1.5 size? previously i tried ebc green with my stock 1.5 rotors, not really biting that well too current 1.8 rotors with metal king bite better than that ALOT...

Bendix General is bullshit as well, couldn't provide stopping power plus ate/burnt my rotor like hell.

I could vouch for Trestor blue advantage the bite is real good. Only drawback is it is powderful.

Totally agreed with the shitty performance of bendix general , my first set of pads, it's silent and not much dust though...

So far I have only used Rapid Stop 550c and 800c pads. The 550c definitely not for competition/track use.

550c not up to standard ah? Care to elaborate more?